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THE TRAGEDY OF PAUL KERES
The latest issue of NEW IN CHESS (#8, 2007) contains a remarkable article by GM Genna Sosonko about Paul Keres that adds more fuel to the thesis advanced by GM Larry Evans in Chess Life (October 1996) that Keres was forced to take a dive against Botvinnik in the 1948 World Championship. Some salient excerpts: "Playing in tournaments in Nazi-occupied Europe, Keres met Alekhine on several occasions. 'Do you think the Bolsheviks would dispose of me if I fell into their hands?' he once inquired of the world champion. 'You shouldn't even have any doubt' Alekhine replied, 'that they'd shorten you by a head.'" "The late David Bronstein recalled: 'In the 1948 match-tournament everything was done for Botvinnik, as it was known that he couldn't hold on for more than 15 consecutive games. It was simply a parody of a tournament -- with a two-week break between The Hague and Moscow. I asked Keres, 'Paul Petrovich, how could you allow such a thing back then?' He threw me such a look that I immediately stopped short -- 'I'll take, take my question back.'" "During the championship of the Soviet Union in Leningrad in 1947 a group of players signed a collective letter in which Keres was branded 'a collaborator' and a 'fascist.' Botvinnik himself insisted that he was 'above all this nonsense,' adding that perhaps he did sign the collective letter from the grandmasters, but he never personally spoke out against the Estonian grandmaster and never plotted against him.'" "In his last years, when he was in Moscow, Keres telephoned Botvinnik and visited him at home. The reasons for their confrontations had evaporated, and Keres discovered another Botvinnik, one who was considerate and kind. In the late sixties, visiting him at his dacha, Keres remarked: 'Botvinnik isn't such a bad person after all, he's nice, friendly.' Maria Keres [his wife] sighed, 'He forgot everything. Paul forgot everything.'" "When he died, Ivonin, the deputy chairman of the USSR Sport Committee, responsible for chess, invited Yakov Neishtadt to see him. 'What material are you planning to publish about Keres?' he asked the editor-in-chief of 64. 'A detailed obituary, his best games, everything that such a great player deserves,' Neishtadt replied. 'That's very good, of course, but I would like you not to forget,' the bureaucrat said, looking him straight in the eye, 'that the death of Keres is, primarily, a loss for Estonia, and not for the Soviet Union.'" "That was how Keres was viewed in Moscow throughout his whole career, and that was how the attitude towards him remained after his death, too. He was both their own, and a foreigner in a huge country that no longer exists, and the authorities never forgot that. He didn't forget it either." "The speaker of the Estonian parliament, Ene Ergma, said: 'Paul Keres didn't give in to ome of the main desires of all totalitarian systems -- to level society, to force all people to talk identically, and to dress identically, to suffer identically, and to lie identically. The elegant Keres in the grey period of Stalinism constantly reminded us here, in Estonia, of what we had lost and what we would definitely bring back one day." EZoto wrote: Isn't it pretty clear-cut what really happened. Many russian chessplayers who lived at that time and then came to america seem to say the same thing or have had similiar stories. Bronsteins book " The Sorcerer's Apprentice " takes a jab at Botvinnik when they took the group photo before the WC match saying all good communists on the right of Folke Rogard. Make it plain and simple: Botvinnik was not a nice guy at all, but as some russian chessplayers told me you did what you had to do to live. EZoto |
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On Nov 22, 9:22*am, " wrote:
THE SEARCH FOR A SMOKING GUN snip pompous nonsense Crackpots never change. Parr is the same guy who suggested (back in the pages of the Feb. '85 CHESS LIFE) that Kasparov was being forced to lose his match with Karpov. It was another example of "the bad commie beating the good commie, so of course the games must be fixed!" Did you ever admit your mistake, dumbass? Charles |
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OUR FRIEND CHARLES IS BACK Exhibiting his usual lack of reading comprehension. Crackpots never change. Parr is the same guy who suggested (back in the pages of the Feb. '85 CHESS LIFE) that Kasparov was being forced to lose his match with Karpov. It was another example of "the bad commie beating the good commie, so of course the games must be fixed!" -- chasmad CHESS LIFE, FEBRUARY 1985, page 29 Editor's Note: [As of press time in early December, Karpov leads Kasparov 5-0 with 26 draws.] Once again, ugly rumors surround a Karpov title match. If, before, they centered on Korchnoi's son being physically beaten in a Soviet labor camp on the eve of the 1981 Merano match, this time it is being said that the KGB has threatened Kasparov's family should he defeat Karpov. The controversy began on October 13, when Harry Golombek wrote in The Times (London) that "an overwhelming victory" by Karpov "would, like Hamlet's uncle's offence, smell to heaven." IM Jonathan Tisdall, our reporter in Moscow vigorously rebuts Mr. Golombek's charges. However, for a wide-range of opinion on the world championship match, see "Is The Fix on in Moscow?" ************************************************** ********************************* Needless to say, I did not write what chasmad claimed I wrote and this diversion has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. |
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On Dec 29, 3:13*am, " wrote:
snip evasions Needless to say, I did not write what chasmad claimed I wrote and this diversion has nothing to do with the issue at hand. How do I explain this in a way that's simple enough for even your feeble mind to comprehend? Let me try: The decision to examine the whole idiotic "Is the Fix on in Moscow?" issue in CHESS LIFE was yours (you WERE the editor, weren't you?). Instead of praising Karpov's accomplishment -- that of taking a big lead against a formidable opponent -- you took the opportunity to insult him, by implying that his victories were perhaps not fairly earned. It became a "controversy" because you made it one. The article was typical of a Cold War mentality that poisoned the pages of CHESS LIFE for years. Your flogging of the Keres-Botvinnik "controversy" is just another expression of this derangement. Mercifully, you were fired by the USCF. Maybe there is a God, after all. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Yes, you can slide back under your rock now. Charles |
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WRONG AGAIN
It became a "controversy" because you made it one. -- chasmad Chasmad lives up to his alias once again. We simply reported a story that was hot at the time, unlike the current Chess Life that simply ignores many controversies. As reported in that same issue of Chess Life (page 31) Several major newspapers in Western Europe have published reports that the Karpov- Kasparov championship match is riggued. Harry Golombek, writing in The Times [London] suggests that "Kasparov has been warned not to play well and has been given to understand that the consequences for him and his family would be disastrous if he did." The article was typical of a Cold War mentality that poisoned the pages of CHESS LIFE for years. Your flogging of the Keres-Botvinnik "controversy" is just another expression of this derangement. --chessmad The Keres-Botvinnik scandal is important to an understanding of chess history and new facts are still unfolding. chasmad wrote: On Dec 29, 3:13?am, " wrote: snip evasions Needless to say, I did not write what chasmad claimed I wrote and this diversion has nothing to do with the issue at hand. How do I explain this in a way that's simple enough for even your feeble mind to comprehend? Let me try: The decision to examine the whole idiotic "Is the Fix on in Moscow?" issue in CHESS LIFE was yours (you WERE the editor, weren't you?). Instead of praising Karpov's accomplishment -- that of taking a big lead against a formidable opponent -- you took the opportunity to insult him, by implying that his victories were perhaps not fairly earned. It became a "controversy" because you made it one. The article was typical of a Cold War mentality that poisoned the pages of CHESS LIFE for years. Your flogging of the Keres-Botvinnik "controversy" is just another expression of this derangement. Mercifully, you were fired by the USCF. Maybe there is a God, after all. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Yes, you can slide back under your rock now. Charles |
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FEBRUARY 1985 CHESS LIFE (page 29)
Crackpots never change. Parr is the same guy who suggested (back in the pages of the Feb. '85 CHESS LIFE) that Kasparov was being forced to lose his match with Karpov. -- chessmad "Chasmad," an apt self-inflicted monicker, appears to be a chap from Florida who is afflicted. We treat him gently because he appears here during periods of recovery. In these moments he may chat up with the marchest of hares at the ides, though to be fair to the man he is no worse than the rest of us until the breaking point, which is when he requires medically fruitful ministrations to trim the tread a trifle. In addition to reading comprehension courses, he apparently needs anger management classes. Mr. Mad is among those few who still talk about American Cold War rhetoric and he fails to realize that everyone is now a kneejerk anti-Commie. The winning side churns out the histories and news stories. As Alexander Griboyedov wrote in Woe from Wit, "I will tell such truth about you that lies will be eclipsed." And, well, the truth about the late Soviet empire proved so grisly that nothing substantial ever written by any of Chasmad's hated cold warriors was materially exaggerated. Indeed, the highest estimates of unnatural loss of life in the late USSR by the most anti-communist writers ultimately proved lower than demographer Murray Feshbach's final conclusions. As Chasmad would have it, I asserted that the games of KKI were fixed. Here again is what I actually wrote, and readers will note that no such assertion was/is made: Editor's Note: Once again, ugly rumors surround a Karpov title match. If, before, they centered on Korchnoi's son being physically beaten in a Soviet labor camp on the eve of the 1981 Merano match, this time it is being said that the KGB has threatened Kasparov's family should he defeat Karpov. The controversy began on October 13, when Harry Golombek wrote in The Times (London) that "an overwhelming victory" by Karpov "would, like Hamlet's uncle's offence, smell to heaven." IM Jonathan Tisdall, our reporter in Moscow vigorously rebuts Mr. Golombek's charges. However, for a wide-range of opinion on the world championship match, see "Is The Fix on in Moscow?" As of press time in early December, Karpov leads Kasparov 5-0 with 26 draws. wrote: OUR FRIEND CHARLES IS BACK Exhibiting his usual lack of reading comprehension. Crackpots never change. Parr is the same guy who suggested (back in the pages of the Feb. '85 CHESS LIFE) that Kasparov was being forced to lose his match with Karpov. It was another example of "the bad commie beating the good commie, so of course the games must be fixed!" -- chasmad CHESS LIFE, FEBRUARY 1985, page 29 Editor's Note: [As of press time in early December, Karpov leads Kasparov 5-0 with 26 draws.] Once again, ugly rumors surround a Karpov title match. If, before, they centered on Korchnoi's son being physically beaten in a Soviet labor camp on the eve of the 1981 Merano match, this time it is being said that the KGB has threatened Kasparov's family should he defeat Karpov. The controversy began on October 13, when Harry Golombek wrote in The Times (London) that "an overwhelming victory" by Karpov "would, like Hamlet's uncle's offence, smell to heaven." IM Jonathan Tisdall, our reporter in Moscow vigorously rebuts Mr. Golombek's charges. However, for a wide-range of opinion on the world championship match, see "Is The Fix on in Moscow?" ************************************************** ********************************* Needless to say, I did not write what chasmad claimed I wrote and this diversion has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. |
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