I have a friend who performs about 2400 elo after only 2 years and a
half since he learned chess. How good is it, even in front to the
typical GM carreer?

On 3 Dic, 19:03, Jam boy wrote:
I have a friend who performs about 2400 elo after only 2 years and a
half since he learned chess. How good is it, even in front to the
typical GM carreer?

Uh... he learned chess at about 19 years...

He is 2400 ELO , and he wants to be a GM ?
That is a good question , how hard is it to go from 2400 ELO to GM ELO
????
I think he has to get to " international master" first ..

On Dec 3, 1:03 pm, Jam boy wrote:
I have a friend who performs about 2400 elo after only 2 years and a
half since he learned chess. How good is it, even in front to the
typical GM carreer?

On what do you base the claim that he is "about 2400 Elo"? Is that
his USCF or FIDE rating? Or some web-site's? Nowadays there are many
sites with many different rating systems, not all equally valid.
Unless that's a rating from FIDE or a national federation, and one
based on a statistically significant number of games, I'd be chary of
claiming 2400 strength.

On 4 Dic, 23:51, Taylor Kingston wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:03 pm, Jam boy wrote:

I have a friend who performs about 2400 elo after only 2 years and a
half since he learned chess. How good is it, even in front to the
typical GM carreer?

On what do you base the claim that he is "about 2400 Elo"? Is that
his USCF or FIDE rating? Or some web-site's? Nowadays there are many
sites with many different rating systems, not all equally valid.
Unless that's a rating from FIDE or a national federation, and one
based on a statistically significant number of games, I'd be chary of
claiming 2400 strength.

He s 2400 on the base that he played and won with people that have a
2400 rating FIDE many times, and on the base that he defeats many
programs *even in blitz of about that strenght.

SAT W-7 wrote:
He is 2400 ELO , and he wants to be a GM ?
That is a good question , how hard is it to go from 2400 ELO to GM
ELO ????
I think he has to get to " international master" first ..

There's no requirement to become an International Master before
becoming a Grandmaster. Essentially, in order to become an IM or GM,
you have to do well enough in enough FIDE-rated tournaments against
strong-enough opinion and have had a FIDE rating of over 2400 (IM) or
2500 (GM). The definitions of `enough' in the three places I've used
it depend on whether you want to become an IM or GM. See

http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0101

for the gory technicalities.

There's no time requirement, so you could, *in theory*, obtain your
2500 rating aged six, then fall down to 1000, and win three GM
tournaments over fifty years and you'd still qualify as a GM, even if
you were still rated under 2500. Of course, that's extremely
unlikely. :-)


Dave.

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Thanks for the info...

Hey do you know the knock out rules in the on going chess
tournament they are having now ?

I am pulling for Gata K....

On Dec 6, 4:32 am, Jam boy wrote:

I have a friend who performs about 2400 elo after only 2 years and a
half since he learned chess. How good is it, even in front to the
typical GM carreer?

On what do you base the claim that he is "about 2400 Elo"? Is that
his USCF or FIDE rating? Or some web-site's? Nowadays there are many
sites with many different rating systems, not all equally valid.
Unless that's a rating from FIDE or a national federation, and one
based on a statistically significant number of games, I'd be chary of
claiming 2400 strength.

He s 2400 on the base that he played and won with people that have a
2400 rating FIDE many times, and on the base that he defeats many
programs *even in blitz of about that strenght.

Sounds to me like your "friend" is a scaredy-cat.

If he/she/it beats up on FIDO 2400s and computers,
why not just walk right up to the rating pool, take a
deep breath, and jump in? The worst that can
happen is the temperature is found to be a bit frigid
(or some protruding rock is concealed in the murky
deep). Don't be a chicken -- jump in there like the
Croc' Hunter did and just see what happens.

Remember: Deep Fritz made IM before he was
two years old, and he can do it, then your friend
can too.


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On Dec 6, 4:32 am, Jam boy wrote:

He s 2400 on the base that he played and won with people that have a
2400 rating FIDE many times, and on the base that he defeats many
programs *even in blitz of about that strenght.

If he has beaten people with genuine FIDE ratings of 2400 many
times, only two years after learning the game, then I would say your
friend has remarkable talent. I would encourage him develop it as much
as he can, as long as he enjoys it.

David Richerby wrote:
SAT W-7 wrote:
He is 2400 ELO , and he wants to be a GM ?
That is a good question , how hard is it to go from 2400 ELO to GM
ELO ????
I think he has to get to " international master" first ..

There's no requirement to become an International Master before
becoming a Grandmaster. Essentially, in order to become an IM or GM,
you have to do well enough in enough FIDE-rated tournaments against
strong-enough opinion and have had a FIDE rating of over 2400 (IM) or
2500 (GM). The definitions of `enough' in the three places I've used
it depend on whether you want to become an IM or GM. See

http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=B0101

for the gory technicalities.

There's no time requirement, so you could, *in theory*, obtain your
2500 rating aged six, then fall down to 1000, and win three GM
tournaments over fifty years and you'd still qualify as a GM, even if
you were still rated under 2500. Of course, that's extremely
unlikely. :-)


Dave.

I was under the impression that the rating requirement was as of the
date the title was granted. Did that change? Or, did I just have it
wrong all the time?

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