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Old December 23rd 07, 12:52 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Dec 22, 7:30 am, Guy Macon http://www.guymacon.com/ wrote:
help bot wrote:
But as we know, lead has its own
dangers; if ingested, lead is *toxic*, unlike so
many of the alternatives.
Oh-- and don't let
the kids near your /poisonous/ lead-shot. (If
ingested, induce vomiting by forcing a jalapeno
pepper and 1/2 tablespoon of gunpowder down
the throat, then call the undertaker.) I believe
the real antidote to lead-poisoning is UGTH,
which sucks metals and calcium out of the
blood vessels, or something like that.


From the Material Safety Data Sheet for Lead:
"Lead metal foil, shot or sheets: Not an ingestion hazard."
"Ingestion: Do NOT induce vomiting"http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Lead-9927204

My comments: Solid lead is really quite safe. Inhaled as fine
powder, made into a lead salt or organic compound containing
lead (such as lead tetraethyl -- what they put in gasoline) or
exposed in small quantities for long periods (water from lead
pipes) it is very nasty, but you can eat lead shot without any
problem from toxicity.


Interesting. So then, I could theoretically swallow
ten pounds of lead shot, then bet that I could "lose
ten pounds in under a week", earning a quick fifty
cents for lunch money.

C'mon now: do you really believe all that lead shot
will simply pass through one's system /intact/?
What about the acids in the stomach-- have they no
affect on lead? And what about the epoxy? Is it, too,
completely harmless if ingested (presumably by a
child)? Weird science... . In any case, I now know
I'm gonna have to stop inhaling the stuff. The truth is,
even back when regular gasoline was leaded, I filled
my tank, but I didn't inhale.


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Old December 23rd 07, 02:25 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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I buy leaded gas for my I968 Dodge Charger 440 Magnum ....I do not have
hardened valve guides so it needs a little lead + it is II4 octane
gas.....I can not pull my car up to the pump i have to get it in gas
cans....
Makes my 440 cubic inch engine run well and cool ...The unleaded gas
makes it run warmer.

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Old December 23rd 07, 12:33 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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help bot wrote:

Guy Macon http://www.guymacon.com/ wrote:


From the Material Safety Data Sheet for Lead:
"Lead metal foil, shot or sheets: Not an ingestion hazard."


C'mon now: do you really believe all that lead shot
will simply pass through one's system /intact/?
What about the acids in the stomach-- have they no
affect on lead?


I have never seen or heard of a single example of a MSDS
that calls something safe when it isn't.

Thinks about all the shotgun pellets, wheel weights, fishing
sinkers, elecric meter seals, stained glass windoews, etc.
Ever hear of any of them hurting anyone? Now think about
the cases wher lead does hurt someone -- paoint chips, toys,
etc. The lead that doesn't hurt anyone is elemental lead.
The lead that hurts poeple is various lead compounds.


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Old December 23rd 07, 01:09 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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"SAT W-7" wrote in message
...
What is the name of the triple weighted chess sets that are out there ?


Dunno - but I think House of Staunton has a bunch on their site, also the
Jacques set...

http://www.houseofstaunton.com/index.shtml

I don't see any extra weighted set there, but it does give height, base
diameter for each set: eg, Petersburg, [King] 3.6", base 1.6" and total set
weight [4 Queen set] of 45 ounces - and this fits recommended board size of
2" squares

looking at another set 'New York' it has 4" king, 1.875" dia. base and set
weight 61 ounces, board size 2.375 to 2.5 sq [34 pieces]

I wonder what the king weight should be in relationshipo to its height?
Also, what the general parameters are for all the pieces based on King
height/weight? I tried a few googles and didn't that info

I saw a wooden chess set and the King was 5 inches tall and i picked
it up only to be disappointed in the weight ..It was light ..This has
been awhile ago now and i can not remember the wood it was made out of


I have a Russian 'Grandmaster Set' [actually used by 6 world champions!] and
the pieces are unwieghted, unfelted. I am too nervous to retrofit it

I have a Oak tree and and about every other year i have pros come out
and trim them , would a oak chess set be cool to have ? I would have to
find a wood craftsmen to do it because i could not do it ......


Woods needs seasoning, otherwise will split. Assume this is not red-Oak? The
HoS sets above are priced approx $500-$1000. If you want a /really/ valuable
set, don't turn it, hand-carve it - use hand-chisels, dremel, fine fret-saw
and rasps [that's English name, is American name the same?]. Perhaps someone
more knowlegable can tell you about staining white-Oak for durability, and
if you can apply a finish on top of the stain, other than plastics like
eurethanes.

---
One of the most famous - and very good looking - home made sets was by
Marcel Duchamp [google picture] , who made at least one set out of a broom
handle.

Cordially and good luck! Phil



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Old December 24th 07, 10:13 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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help bot wrote:
Interesting. So then, I could theoretically swallow ten pounds of
lead shot, then bet that I could "lose ten pounds in under a week",
earning a quick fifty cents for lunch money.


Nobody ever said it was safe to eat 10lb of lead. That would almost
certainly cause problems just from its physical weight -- your body
would have difficulty moving it around.

C'mon now: do you really believe all that lead shot
will simply pass through one's system /intact/?


Pretty much, yes. Remember that the purpose of lead shot is to shoot
things which one is then likely to eat. It's impossible to get the
shot out of the bird before eating it so some of it is going to get
swallowed by accident.

What about the acids in the stomach-- have they no affect on lead?


Almost none. Lead is very resistant to corrosion, which is why it's
used for church rooves. Of course, minute quantities will dissolve
but the amount of lead that will enter your system after swallowing a
couple of pellets of lead shot will, I'm sure, be negligible compared
to the amount of lead you've inhaled over the years from vehicle
exhausts.

And what about the epoxy? Is it, too, completely harmless if
ingested (presumably by a child)?


I believe so, yes. It's very unreactive.

Weird science...


Not at all.


Dave.

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