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My old colleague Christophe Bouton has put up several fascinating pictures,
especially of the Havanna 66 event. I have seen some others from this event; Larry Evans playing Mark Taimanov, with 'Che' Guevara looking on. That is on Mark's double music CD Christophe also shows Che at his own game, but, and how topical, also shows RJF saying something to Castro. What, does anyone know, did he say to him? See http://echecs64.blog.20minutes.fr/ar...vane-1966.html And here is the text in French La régie des tabacs sortit aussi des cigares, cigarettes et allumettes aux armes du tournoi des Nations. La cérémonie officielle d'ouverture eut lieu le 25 au soir, en présence de Fidel Castro. Je ne vis pas un seul poil de sa barbe car les Français étaient placés trop loin, mais de formidables ovations saluèrent son arrivée. Le ministre de l'Éducation nationale prononça une brève allocution de bienvenue. Le serment olympique fut prononcé en français par Chiaramonti, en allemand par W. Baumgartner, en anglais par l'américain Robert Byrne, en russe par le champion du monde Tigran Petrossian, en espagnol par le numéro un cubain, Eleazar Jimenez, et des acclamations sans fin saluèrent l'apparition du champion du monde et du maître cubain. La manifestation se termina par un ballet échiquéen représentant une partie célèbre jouée entre le tenant du titre mondial Emanuel Lasker et celui qui allait le lui prendre, à La Havane précisément, le Cubain Jose Raúl Capablanca. Une anecdote: après l'inauguration, quelques personnalités se retrouvèrent en petit comité. Fidel Castro engagea une partie avec le joueur mexicain Terrezaz. Bobby Fischer vint au secours de ce dernier, tandis que Petrossian et le Bulgare Padevsky venaient à la rescousse de Castro. Le nombre l'emporta! Oui, Bobby était là en chair et en os! Un des grands événements de l'Olympiade fut la présence de l'équipe des États-Unis qui arriva le 23 de Mexico et sur la participation de laquelle des bruits contradictoires coururent jusqu'au dernier moment. Les Yankees trouvèrent à Cuba un accueil aussi chaleureux que les autres équipes, la politique internationale faisant place à la paix comme cela avait été jadis le cas pour les Jeux Olympiques de la Grèce antique. Rappelons que l'année précédente, Bobby Fischer avait été invité au Mémorial Capablanca de La Havane, mais le Département d'État lui avait interdit de se rendre à Cuba. La difficulté avait été tournée, Bobby jouant du Manhattan Chess Club par télex! --- Enfin! Ici dessiller les yeux de quelqu'un, lui les pieds qui fourmillent! Cordiale! Phil Innes |
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On Feb 14, 3:02*pm, "Chess One" wrote:
My old colleague Christophe Bouton has put up several fascinating pictures, especially of the Havanna 66 event. I have seen some others from this event; Larry Evans playing Mark Taimanov, with 'Che' Guevara looking on. That is on Mark's double music CD Christophe also shows Che at *his own game, but, and how topical, also shows RJF saying something to Castro. What, does anyone know, did he say to him? See http://echecs64.blog.20minutes.fr/ar...lvain-zinser-r... And here is the text in French La régie des tabacs sortit aussi des cigares, cigarettes et allumettes aux armes du tournoi des Nations. La cérémonie officielle d'ouverture eut lieu le 25 au soir, en présence de Fidel Castro. Je ne vis pas un seul poil de sa barbe car les Français étaient placés trop loin, mais de formidables ovations saluèrent son arrivée. Le ministre de l'Éducation nationale prononça une brève allocution de bienvenue. Le serment olympique fut prononcé en français par Chiaramonti, en allemand par W. Baumgartner, en anglais par l'américain Robert Byrne, en russe par le champion du monde Tigran Petrossian, en espagnol par le numéro un cubain, Eleazar Jimenez, et des acclamations sans fin saluèrent l'apparition du champion du monde et du maître cubain. La manifestation se termina par un ballet échiquéen représentant une partie célèbre jouée entre le tenant du titre mondial Emanuel Lasker et celui qui allait le lui prendre, à La Havane précisément, le Cubain Jose Raúl Capablanca. Une anecdote: après l'inauguration, quelques personnalités se retrouvèrent en petit comité. Fidel Castro engagea une partie avec le joueur mexicain Terrezaz. Bobby Fischer vint au secours de ce dernier, tandis que Petrossian et le Bulgare Padevsky venaient à la rescousse de Castro. Le nombre l'emporta! * * * *Oui, Bobby était là en chair et en os! Un des grands événements de l'Olympiade fut la présence de l'équipe des États-Unis qui arriva le 23 de Mexico et sur la participation de laquelle des bruits contradictoires coururent jusqu'au dernier moment. Les Yankees trouvèrent à Cuba un accueil aussi chaleureux que les autres équipes, la politique internationale faisant place à la paix comme cela avait été jadis le cas pour les Jeux Olympiques de la Grèce antique. Rappelons que l'année précédente, Bobby Fischer avait été invité au Mémorial Capablanca de La Havane, mais le Département d'État lui avait interdit de se rendre à Cuba. La difficulté avait été tournée, Bobby jouant du Manhattan Chess Club par télex! --- Enfin! Ici dessiller les yeux de quelqu'un, lui les pieds qui fourmillent! Cordiale! Phil Innes Brady's bio of Fischer describes several meetings and conversations between Fischer and Castro during the 1966 Olympiad. Looking at the photo, however, it's difficult to reconcile it with any of Brady's descriptions. Two of the encounters were outdoors, one at a candlelight banquet, another at a huge daytime simul, but this photo appears to be taken indoors. Another occasion was a smaller, private banquet, but for that Castro is described as wearing formal attire, while the photo seems to show him in his usual military fatigues. The man partly obscured behind Fischer looks like he might be Soviet GM Leonid Stein. If so, this could be the occasion of Fischer's most interesting conversation with Castro, reported by Brady on pages 115-116 of "Profile of a Prodigy." Fischer challenged Stein to a match with terms of first to 10 wins, draws not counting. Surprisingly, Stein accepted. He and Fischer went over to Castro to ask if he would be willing to host the match, and Castro agreed. Fischer was quite excited at this prospect, but the whole thing fell through the next day when the Soviet authorities nixed the idea. However, I can't say with any certainty that the photo depicts this occasion. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 14, 3:02 pm, "Chess One" wrote: My old colleague Christophe Bouton has put up several fascinating pictures, especially of the Havanna 66 event. I have seen some others from this event; Larry Evans playing Mark Taimanov, with 'Che' Guevara looking on. That is on Mark's double music CD Christophe also shows Che at his own game, but, and how topical, also shows RJF saying something to Castro. What, does anyone know, did he say to him? See http://echecs64.blog.20minutes.fr/ar...lvain-zinser-r... And here is the text in French La régie des tabacs sortit aussi des cigares, cigarettes et allumettes aux armes du tournoi des Nations. La cérémonie officielle d'ouverture eut lieu le 25 au soir, en présence de Fidel Castro. Je ne vis pas un seul poil de sa barbe car les Français étaient placés trop loin, mais de formidables ovations saluèrent son arrivée. Le ministre de l'Éducation nationale prononça une brève allocution de bienvenue. Le serment olympique fut prononcé en français par Chiaramonti, en allemand par W. Baumgartner, en anglais par l'américain Robert Byrne, en russe par le champion du monde Tigran Petrossian, en espagnol par le numéro un cubain, Eleazar Jimenez, et des acclamations sans fin saluèrent l'apparition du champion du monde et du maître cubain. La manifestation se termina par un ballet échiquéen représentant une partie célèbre jouée entre le tenant du titre mondial Emanuel Lasker et celui qui allait le lui prendre, à La Havane précisément, le Cubain Jose Raúl Capablanca. Une anecdote: après l'inauguration, quelques personnalités se retrouvèrent en petit comité. Fidel Castro engagea une partie avec le joueur mexicain Terrezaz. Bobby Fischer vint au secours de ce dernier, tandis que Petrossian et le Bulgare Padevsky venaient à la rescousse de Castro. Le nombre l'emporta! Oui, Bobby était là en chair et en os! Un des grands événements de l'Olympiade fut la présence de l'équipe des États-Unis qui arriva le 23 de Mexico et sur la participation de laquelle des bruits contradictoires coururent jusqu'au dernier moment. Les Yankees trouvèrent à Cuba un accueil aussi chaleureux que les autres équipes, la politique internationale faisant place à la paix comme cela avait été jadis le cas pour les Jeux Olympiques de la Grèce antique. Rappelons que l'année précédente, Bobby Fischer avait été invité au Mémorial Capablanca de La Havane, mais le Département d'État lui avait interdit de se rendre à Cuba. La difficulté avait été tournée, Bobby jouant du Manhattan Chess Club par télex! --- Enfin! Ici dessiller les yeux de quelqu'un, lui les pieds qui fourmillent! Cordiale! Phil Innes Brady's bio of Fischer describes several meetings and conversations between Fischer and Castro during the 1966 Olympiad. Looking at the photo, however, it's difficult to reconcile it with any of Brady's descriptions. Two of the encounters were outdoors, one at a candlelight banquet, another at a huge daytime simul, but this photo appears to be taken indoors. **yes, i think i have seen this one before, but cannot remember any circumstance attending on it - nor no commetary Another occasion was a smaller, private banquet, but for that Castro is described as wearing formal attire, while the photo seems to show him in his usual military fatigues. The man partly obscured behind Fischer looks like he might be Soviet GM Leonid Stein. If so, this could be the occasion of Fischer's most interesting conversation with Castro, reported by Brady on pages 115-116 of "Profile of a Prodigy." Fischer challenged Stein to a match with terms of first to 10 wins, draws not counting. Surprisingly, Stein accepted. **Ha! He and Fischer went over to Castro to ask if he would be willing to host the match, and Castro agreed. Fischer was quite excited at this prospect, but the whole thing fell through the next day when the Soviet authorities nixed the idea. **Ah! However, I can't say with any certainty that the photo depicts this occasion. **Larry Evans was there. I wonder if he or LP can throw some light on this? I have asked L. Evans previously if he can comment on the /atmosphere/ of these engagements. Of course, since he is so well read at large, this is book material for him, rather than interview material. Nevertheless... I have written before that much of what Evans writes is resented as being overdone in terms of Fischer, yet little of it seems understood! And there is an almost Shakespearean cast on this scene, with Guevara, Castro, himself and Taimanov too. **I should /so/ like to interview Larry Evans, especially inviting questions from a very broad range of opinion. He has [laugh] told me 'maybe', which means next year, which maybe never arrives. But the period is fascinating, ain't it? What did all these people actually know about each other, and how did they behave altogether? Cordially, Phil Innes |
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On Feb 14, 4:46*pm, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 14, 3:02 pm, "Chess One" wrote: My old colleague Christophe Bouton has put up several fascinating pictures, especially of the Havanna 66 event. I have seen some others from this event; Larry Evans playing Mark Taimanov, with 'Che' Guevara looking on. That is on Mark's double music CD Christophe also shows Che at his own game, but, and how topical, also shows RJF saying something to Castro. What, does anyone know, did he say to him? See http://echecs64.blog.20minutes.fr/ar...lvain-zinser-r... And here is the text in French La régie des tabacs sortit aussi des cigares, cigarettes et allumettes aux armes du tournoi des Nations. La cérémonie officielle d'ouverture eut lieu le 25 au soir, en présence de Fidel Castro. Je ne vis pas un seul poil de sa barbe car les Français étaient placés trop loin, mais de formidables ovations saluèrent son arrivée. Le ministre de l'Éducation nationale prononça une brève allocution de bienvenue. Le serment olympique fut prononcé en français par Chiaramonti, en allemand par W. Baumgartner, en anglais par l'américain Robert Byrne, en russe par le champion du monde Tigran Petrossian, en espagnol par le numéro un cubain, Eleazar Jimenez, et des acclamations sans fin saluèrent l'apparition du champion du monde et du maître cubain. La manifestation se termina par un ballet échiquéen représentant une partie célèbre jouée entre le tenant du titre mondial Emanuel Lasker et celui qui allait le lui prendre, à La Havane précisément, le Cubain Jose Raúl Capablanca. Une anecdote: après l'inauguration, quelques personnalités se retrouvèrent en petit comité. Fidel Castro engagea une partie avec le joueur mexicain Terrezaz. Bobby Fischer vint au secours de ce dernier, tandis que Petrossian et le Bulgare Padevsky venaient à la rescousse de Castro. Le nombre l'emporta! Oui, Bobby était là en chair et en os! Un des grands événements de l'Olympiade fut la présence de l'équipe des États-Unis qui arriva le 23 de Mexico et sur la participation de laquelle des bruits contradictoires coururent jusqu'au dernier moment. Les Yankees trouvèrent à Cuba un accueil aussi chaleureux que les autres équipes, la politique internationale faisant place à la paix comme cela avait été jadis le cas pour les Jeux Olympiques de la Grèce antique. Rappelons que l'année précédente, Bobby Fischer avait été invité au Mémorial Capablanca de La Havane, mais le Département d'État lui avait interdit de se rendre à Cuba. La difficulté avait été tournée, Bobby jouant du Manhattan Chess Club par télex! --- Enfin! Ici dessiller les yeux de quelqu'un, lui les pieds qui fourmillent! Cordiale! Phil Innes * Brady's bio of Fischer describes several meetings and conversations between Fischer and Castro during the 1966 Olympiad. Looking at the photo, however, it's difficult to reconcile it with any of Brady's descriptions. Two of the encounters were outdoors, one at a candlelight banquet, another at a huge daytime simul, but this photo appears to be taken indoors. **yes, i think i have seen this one before, but cannot remember any circumstance attending on it - nor no commetary *Another occasion was a smaller, private banquet, but for that Castro is described as wearing formal attire, while the photo seems to show him in his usual military fatigues. * The man partly obscured behind Fischer looks like he might be Soviet GM Leonid Stein. If so, this could be the occasion of Fischer's most interesting conversation with Castro, reported by Brady on pages 115-116 of "Profile of a Prodigy." Fischer challenged Stein to a match with terms of first to 10 wins, draws not counting. Surprisingly, Stein accepted. **Ha! *He and Fischer went over to Castro to ask if he would be willing to host the match, and Castro agreed. Fischer was quite excited at this prospect, but the whole thing fell through the next day when the Soviet authorities nixed the idea. **Ah! * However, I can't say with any certainty that the photo depicts this occasion. **Larry Evans was there. Yes, I would think Evans would be a much better source than Brady on this matter. I wonder if he or LP can throw some light on this? I have asked L. Evans previously if he can comment on the /atmosphere/ of these engagements. Of course, since he is so well read at large, this is book material for him, rather than interview material. Nevertheless... I have written before that much of what Evans writes is resented as being overdone in terms of Fischer, yet little of it seems understood! And there is an almost Shakespearean cast on this scene, with Guevara, Castro, himself and Taimanov too. **I should /so/ like to interview Larry Evans, especially inviting questions from a very broad range of opinion. He has [laugh] told me 'maybe', which means next year, which maybe never arrives. But the period is fascinating, ain't it? What did all these people actually know about each other, and how did they behave altogether? Cordially, Phil Innes- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 14, 4:46 pm, "Chess One" wrote: wrote in message **Larry Evans was there. Yes, I would think Evans would be a much better source than Brady on this matter. --- Should I press him on it? Sometimes in the flow of one's own times, it is hard to gain perspective so as to understand interest and import of subsequent generations. And this was a rara avis connection, much more mid cold-war, than Rejavik was in 72 - as much The Great Game as Chess. And such circumstances surrounding the US president; his current and subsequent actions as we know little from actual participants to real /engagements/ [Fr.] ! Recently I read Topalov's sense of what it was /like/ to be in Kalmykia/Elista, surrounded by secret police and everything suspected of being bugged the hell out of, and of a massive sense of oppression on that place. Just a dozen years previous to this Hollywood rather liked Havana, via Bogart and others, and the whole scene for the Americas is now somewhat biblical - the lost sheep, et ca,. but a sheep with other experience than the mainland flock ~ and to continue the metaphor, what is valuable to us about learning of that? Or are we become as monolithic and parano~claustrophobic as Russia itself, so that we no longer care about them, but care they care about us, and that only? Beyond the chessic aspects of these affairs, there are powerful cultural ties and implications and futures. Phil Innes |
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Dear Taylor Kingston,
One other thought, Taylor. Should the gent agree, will you work with me on an interview? I think I can guarantee a half dozen GM questions to be included, maybe 10. I think this does sufficient honor to him, and without it, it may be passable on his part. And the nature of interviews is really to ask questions which can be answered, rather than 'posed to' a person as clever rhetoric or something. There seem to be many questions that are yet not answered, but which are in a broad sense, strong in our appreciation of chess to date. You have an issue with him, and that is good. I do not think you and I cannot agree on the basis of questions; and maybe include a third person [or a forth] to sharpen our points, to get something out there which it always seemed to me to be as much about the times as the participants in them. I do understand you like writers who have substantial experience on interrogating Russian materials on chess [such as Cafferty]. I have exchanged several thousand messages on this subject with Russians. And with some of them they say - "can we get this person to interview before too late?" I don't wish to make only some morbid comment here - but in the history of American Greats, are we Americans not as negligent historically as the Russians of their own to inquire of real witness to how it was? Consider this very open-ended and public proposal if you will, and even unto your correspondent, Mr. Caffery, and decide if you should like to proceed withall. Cordially, Phil Innes |
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"Hey, Fidel! Do those legs go all the way up?"
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