IVAN VS GETCLUB NEW THREAD

On Mar 4, 10:06*am, help bot wrote:
On Mar 3, 2:55 pm, SBD wrote:

On Mar 3, 1:06 pm, Sanny wrote:

I do not understand why GetClub is playing so bad moves,

Because it is an incredibly weak chess engine.

* Hey, Sanny *thinks* he is an 1100 rated player
only because somebody (who?) told him so. *But
let's say that is about right--

Let's not. 1100 is too high an estimate by half.

them is dead lost? *True, really strong programs
can somehow find ways to make things tough
when they are losing, but sheesh-- that requires
some awesome programming skills, not just
"competence" at chess.


Good chess is good chess. Sanny's program makes illegal moves and
thus doesn't even show chess competence.


* Maybe Sanny and SAT W-7 are clueless, like
when they could not comprehend Nxd5? *


SAT W-7 is probably clueless but he is a chess person and thus, immune
to a certain amount of criticism. I'll tolerate crap from someone like
that long before any of Sanny's nonsense.

Anyhow,
I am still working on a battle from the dead-lost
position after B-h4+ in the opening, between two
much stronger engines. *I gave the better one the
lost position and more time, and it has held the
line at somewhere around two points worse. *


A meaningless evaluation. The result is what is important.


Like
the GetClub program itself, the weaker engine
left one Rook out of play on a1 for some time,
and it is instructive to see how this sort of thing
can be exploited by a superior program, even
though it is "dead lost".


Just as instructive to see how a superior player does it. Maybe more.

Pawn G-6 to G-5 ?

Ivan thought about this move for 3 min so it thinks it is good .

It mite be a draw but i am not sure..

* Hey, Sanny *thinks* he is an 1100 rated player
only because somebody (who?) told him so. *But
let's say that is about right--

Let's not. 1100 is too high an estimate by half.

Ok I am playing a game with Beginner Level just now without any help
from any computer. See that game and tell me what would be my Rating?
If 1 game is not sufficient I will play 2-3 games then tell me Whats
my rating.

But its midnight here and I am feeling sleepy and I am a lot Tired. So
may be I play very bad. Incase I am unable to play today because of
tiredness I will try to play tommorow and let you know the Game Moves.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Sanny how come you did not move ? , if you post please move ..Thanks ..

No problem i just read your post ...sorry ..

Now i know when you sleep and when your awake so i can go get my stuff
done ..On the days i am not working i try and come here often when i see
you move ...

This is why i was telling you when id try and post so i would not waste
your time ..

Here is a game by me with Beginner Level. It was a Drawn Position But
I had to resign as Computer was not accepting Draw.

So tell me what do you think my Rating is it 1100 or 1200 or 1800 ???
As Beginner Level is 1700-1800 My rating must be lower than it.

Game Played between sanjay11 and beginner at GetClub.com

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sanjay11: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...824&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(sanjay11) -- (beginner)

1. e2-e4{4} e7-e5{0}
2. d2-d3{2} g7-g6{0}
3. Nb1-c3{2} Ng8-f6{8}
4. Ng1-f3{2} Nb8-c6{10}
5. Bf1-e2{2} Bf8-c5{6}
6. Ke1-g1{4} d7-d6{6}
7. h2-h3{2} Bc8-e6{6}
8. a2-a3{2} d6-d5{8}
9. e4-d5{4} Nf6-d5{6}
10. Nc3-d5{4} Qd8-d5{6}
11. b2-b4{2} Bc5-d4{8}
12. Nf3-d4{26} Nc6-d4{8}
13. Bc1-b2{14} Ke8-g8{10}
14. Bb2-d4{4} Qd5-d4{12}
15. Ra1-b1{4} c7-c6{10}
16. Kg1-h1{10} Qd4-f4{6}
17. Be2-f3{10} Be6-d5{6}
18. Bf3-d5{4} c6-d5{8}
19. Qd1-e2{2} Ra8-c8{6}
20. c2-c4{18} d5-c4{12}
21. d3-c4{2} b7-b6{20}
22. Rb1-c1{20} Rf8-e8{8}
23. Rc1-c3{2} Re8-e6{6}
24. Qe2-e3{20} Rc8-c4{8}
25. Qe3-f4{8} Rc4-f4{14}
26. Rc3-c7{6} a7-a5{6}
27. Rc7-b7{10} a5-b4{6}
28. a3-a4{6} b4-b3{8}
29. Rf1-b1{4} Rf4-f2{6}
30. Rb1-b3{4} Rf2-f4{8}
31. Rb7-b6{6} Re6-b6{8}
32. Rb3-b6{4} Rf4-a4{6}
33. g2-g4{26} e5-e4{8}
34. Kh1-g2{2} Ra4-a2{10}
35. Kg2-g3{4} h7-h5{10}
36. Kg3-f4{8} h5-g4{6}
37. h3-g4{2} Ra2-a4{6}
38. Rb6-b1{8} Ra4-d4{14}
39. Rb1-e1{2} e4-e3{10}
40. Kf4-f3{12} Rd4-d3{8}
41. Re1-e3{2} Rd3-e3{10}
42. Kf3-e3{2} f7-f6{6}
43. Ke3-f4{2} Kg8-g7{6}
44. g4-g5{4} f6-f5{6}
45. Kf4-f3{8} Kg7-f8{6}
46. Kf3-f4{4} Kf8-g8{6}
47. Kf4-e5{4} Kg8-h7{6}
48. Ke5-f4{4} Kh7-g7{6}
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sanjay11: (White)
beginner: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...824&game=Chess

What do you think my rating would be after seeing above game. I used
no computer and just played with my thoughts.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

GetClub Normal Level Play Bxg5 (Bf6xg5)

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4??? {One Point Loss}
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5

It is a bade move g6 pawn will get Killed for no reasion???

It is again a blunder by IVAN. So both are doing Blunders But GetClub
does less than IVAN does.

Just reply whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny


Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

By the way i would have to go back and re-read my words but i do not
think i was talking about the Knight takes Pawn move to save the bishop.
I belive i was talking about why it moved the bishop to let it get
attacked by another pawn so my Knight and Bishop were both attacked ..

Ivan wanted to save the bishop so it sacrificed his knight to save
it....

all ivan had to do was move the knight out of the way ....

King D-7 to E-6 ....

Getclub is winning + I.7 now

I am still not sure about a draw ...I can not see ivans long term
strategy yet ....Why it gave up the pawn , i have no idea .....

GetClub Normal Level Play P-b4 (Pb2-b4)

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4??? {One Point Loss}
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4

Now you can take the e6 pawn. I do not understand why both are
sacrificing pawns for no reasions.

Just reply whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html