IVAN VS GETCLUB NEW THREAD

GetClub Normal Level Play R-d8+ (Rf8-d8+)

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4??? {One Point Loss}
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4 Kxe5
39. f4 Ke6
40. Rd3 Re8
41. Re3 Kd7
42. Rxe8 Kxd7
43. Rc8+ Kd7
44. Rf8 d4
45. Rd8+

Now It will take the pawn at d4 after the King moves. I think GetClub
is 3 points ahead after taking your pawn.

Just reply whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

On Mar 7, 1:44*am, help bot wrote:
(GetClubNormal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4??? {One Point Loss}
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+

* Here is what happened in this position, where
two grandmaster-strength programs took over.
I gave the lost position to the stronger one, and
the winning position (White) to Fritz 5.32. *Much
to my surprise, Fritz was unable to win the game,
although in many cases its choice of moves was
a perfect match. *All it took was an occasional
"suboptimal" move, here and there, to let the win
slip away... .

*12. g3 *Bf5!

*13. fxe4 *Bxe4

*14. Qa4+ *c6

*15. Rg1 *Be7

*16. Qb3 *Qd7

*17. Nc3 *Bg6

*18. Bg2 *f6!

*19. Bf4 *fe

*20. de5? *Bh5!

*21. Qa4 *Rd8

*22. Rf1 *O-O

*23. Qxa7 *g5

*24. Bd2 *Qe6

*25. Rxf8+ *Rxf8

*26. Be3 *Qxe5

*27. Qd4 *Qe6

*28. Nxd5 *cxd5

*29. Bxd5 *Bb4+

*30. Qxb4 *Qxd5

*31. Qb3 *Qxb3

*32. axb3 *h6

*33. Ra7? *Re8

*34. Kd2 *Rd8+

*35. Kc3 *Rc8+

*36. Kd3 *Bg6+

*37. Kd4 *Re8!

*38. Bg1 *Re1

*39. Be3 *Rd1+

*40. Ke5? *Rd3

*41. Bd4 *Rxb3

*42. Ke6 *Bf7+

*43. Ke7 *Rd3

*44. Ra8+ *Kh7

*45. Rh8+? *Kg6

*46. Rd8 *Bb3

*47. g4 *Rf3

*48. Rd6+ *Kh7

* ...and here I stopped the game, being too
tired to continue. *Clearly drawable, it could
take weeks before Fritz might make some
further errors, or it could repeat for a draw
at any time.

* I gave both programs plenty of time to
consider their moves, so it was a bit of a
surprise that Fritz 5.32 could not reel it in.
A graph of the game shows a flat line with
a huge advantage from moves twelve all the
way to move twenty, then things started to
do downhill for Fritz.

* -- help bot

Lets hope GetClub win the game as it is now +3 points ahead. I saw
your game at GetClub 180 Moves with a Rook down. after which you
resign to beginner Level.

When you win Beginner Level you get +5 points but when you loose a
game with Beginner Level you loose 20 points. So you have to win
atleast 5 games for each loss to gain rating.

Now you can add your photos/ pictures at GetClub So Now people will
not only know you by Name but also by a photo.

Myself used a photo of Elephant. I think I will replace that photo
with a Bird.

Incase you do not put any photo you are replaced by a Boy playing
Chess.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

After King K-e6 (Ke5-e6)GetClubPlayed R-d3. I thinkGetClubis
planning some attack?

* *Which Rook* to d3?

GetClub Normal Level Play 40. R-d3 (Rd1-d3)

Rook from d1 to d3 at move 40.

Bye
Sanny

Ivans move King D-7 to E-6 ..

Now + 2,7 but your right , + 3 when you take the pawn.

now off to bed for sure..

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4+??? {One Point Loss} (added the check indicator)
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4 Kxe5
39. f4 Ke6
40. Rdd3 Re8 (added clarification as to which rook moved to d3)
41. Re3+ Kd7 (added the check indicator)
42. Rxe8 Kxe8 (corrects Kd7 -- it was already at d7 from move 41)
43. Rc8+ Kd7
44. Rf8 d4
45. Rd8+ Ke6

Sorry for butting in, but tried to replay these moves and noticed some
errors in the notation as posted that made it difficult to replay. Posting
the updated moves with my changes in ()'s feel free to remove them I only
put them in to make it easier for you to determine if my changes were
correct or not.

Best,
Bill

On Mar 7, 4:59 am, "Bill Plenge" wrote:

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4+??? {One Point Loss} (added the check indicator)
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4 Kxe5
39. f4 Ke6

39. f4 was also a check.

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White had a crushing attack here, due to
the fact that Black's Rook on b5 is trapped:
it can never move again, so long as the
White pawn is maintained at b4, defended
by the a3 pawn. This is why Black is/was
keeping his other Rook on the a-file-- to try
and snatch the defender of the b4-pawn.

My computer shows that instead of 39. f4+,
White could have won easily with:

39. Re3+ Kd6 (forced)

40. Rc1 Rc5 (hangs a R, but prevents mate!)

41. bxc5


White threatened B-f4+ and penetration with
either or both Rooks to the seventh rank, or
just picking off one Rook. After considerable
thinking, the score was showing as +10 for
White!

On with the game...


-- help bot

help bot wrote:
On Mar 7, 4:59 am, "Bill Plenge" wrote:

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4+??? {One Point Loss} (added the check indicator)
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4 Kxe5
39. f4 Ke6

39. f4 was also a check.


Correct, I was going over this because I woke up early for work and couldn't
get back to sleep. After I figure out what was going on with this game I
went back to adjust the notation, I missed the check here.

--------------------------------------------------------------

White had a crushing attack here, due to
the fact that Black's Rook on b5 is trapped:
it can never move again, so long as the
White pawn is maintained at b4, defended
by the a3 pawn. This is why Black is/was
keeping his other Rook on the a-file-- to try
and snatch the defender of the b4-pawn.

My computer shows that instead of 39. f4+,
White could have won easily with:

39. Re3+ Kd6 (forced)

40. Rc1 Rc5 (hangs a R, but prevents mate!)

41. bxc5


White threatened B-f4+ and penetration with
either or both Rooks to the seventh rank, or
just picking off one Rook. After considerable
thinking, the score was showing as +10 for
White!

On with the game...


-- help bot

GetClub Normal Level Play Rxd4 (Rd8xd4)

(GetClub Normal) - (Ivan 45 Moves in 45 min)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4??? {One Point Loss}
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4 Kxe5
39. f4 Ke6
40. Rd3 Re8
41. Re3 Kd7
42. Rxe8 Kxd7
43. Rc8+ Kd7
44. Rf8 d4
45. Rd8+ Ke6
46. Rxd4

Now it has taken your Pawn I think It is still difficult for GetClub
to Win.

Just reply whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

GetClub Normal Level Play Rxd4 (Rd8xd4)

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Nb3 Bb4+
6. c3 Be7
7. Nd4 Nxd4
8. cxd4 Nf6
9. e5 Ne4
10. Qc2 d5
11. f3 Bh4+??? {One Point Loss} (added the check indicator)
12. g3 Nxg3
13. hxg3 Bxg3+
14. Kd1 g6
15. Nc3 c6
16. Bh6 Bf5
17. Bd3 Bxd3
18. Qxd3 R-g8
19. R-h3 Bf2
20. K-e2 B-h4
21. Nxd5 Qxd5
22. Rxh4 Qd8
23. Re4 Qb6
24. Qb3 0-0
25. Qxb6 a7xQ
26. Rc1 Kd7
27. Bg5 Ra8
28. a3 Rh8
29. Rf4 f5
30. Rh1 h5
31. Bf6 Rg8
32 d5 cxd5
33. Rd1 Ra5
34. Rc4 Rb5
35. Ke1 Ra8
36. Rc3 g5
37. Bxg5 Ke6
38. b4 Kxe5
39. f4+ Ke6
40. Rdd3 Re8
41. Re3+ Kd7
42. Rxe8 Kxe8
43. Rc8+ Kd7
44. Rf8 d4
45. Rd8+ Ke6
46. Rxd4

Now it has taken your Pawn I think It is still difficult for GetClub
to Win.

Just reply whenever you are free.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Yes i saw ivans trapped rook and gc could have taken it but gc did not
see that ..i am not sure ivan would have either ....

i think these two are even in strength ..

ivan has had to play defence for the whole game ...

Maybe in the rematch some time down the road ivan can play white ...?
Or if ivan plays black again i will make it open different ..