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Old March 6th 08, 06:46 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
Stephan Bird[_3_]
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:36:14 -0800 in
help bot
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As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you",
I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j"
when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because
the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is
the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb?


Jugoslavia / Yugoslavia (I think)?

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Old March 6th 08, 07:28 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 6, 1:04 pm, wrote:

Let's get a couple of things straight.

First of all "Killz" always stands for "Kills", not "Kills The".

I challenge you to find any exception.


I think I have seen Hollywood movies in which
an evil German military officer speaks something
like: "Kill zie Jew" -- a conglomeration of English
with a fake German accent, and the German
word "zie".


There are plenty of real examples of antisemitism out there.
Please don't trivialize the victims by putting what looks like
an innocent attempt to convey "I Kill You" in the standard way
that online gamers convey that thought into something that
it is not.


Your logic falls down: where did the "I" come
from, apart from a very wild imagination? In
the actual handle under discussion, there was
no "I", but there is "kill" and "z" and "joo".

In English, the phrase "kills you" is lacking an
important piece of information; namely, *who*
or *what* kills you? It could be a bear, for
instance, or a nasty germ, or even old age.

Before you become an arrogant critic, perhaps
you should do some studying? Just an idea.


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Old March 6th 08, 07:43 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 6, 1:46 pm, Stephan Bird
wrote:

As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you",
I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j"
when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because
the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is
the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb?


Jugoslavia / Yugoslavia (I think)?



Ahhh, it all makes sense now. Ever since "we",
that is, the USA invaded and conquered that
country, Yugoslavians have been forced to speak
English! Even their chess openings are not safe;
we Americans now play the Slav, simply because
we are tired of losing to the Nimzo Indians and
other tribes (Commanche, Apache, Hungarian,
etc.)

But... ve vill not tolerate zheir so-called cars,
zie "Yugo" piece of scrap heap! Bring us more
Japanese: Toyota! Honda! Hey, the latest
edition of Consumer Reports magazine has an
advertisement in which a local car dealer asks:
are you gonna buy American, or do you want to
support those commies by buying Japanese?
(So, while we were busy taking control of Yugo-
slavia, we apparently let the commies infiltrate
and take over Japan... .) :D


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Old March 6th 08, 09:00 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 5, 8:33*pm, "Israel Silverman"
wrote:
On the internet, no one knows if you're a dog.

But some people care if you are Jewish. And anti-semitism is alive and well,
in places you'd hardly expect to find it.


Maybe so many of you supporting the Jewish terrorist state of Israel
has something to do with it.


I play chess on various online services. There is ICS, the internet chess
club. There is also a free internet chess server, called FICS. FICS has
always been a nice place to visit, play a few games. The administration
prides itself on keeping a friendly atmosphere, free of the real world
strife that all of us face. IT even advertises itself as a family friendly
place. And so, the last place you'd expect to find anti-semitism tolerated
is FICS. You'd be wrong.

A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized after
the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so
sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew." I figured that this must have just
passed by some tired administrator, and so I messaged the online admin, and
asked him to do something about it. He refused, and said I should email an
admin who deals with abuse. I did, and began a surrealistic email
conversation, in which he insisted that there was nothing FICS was going to
do about it, because it could mean anything, and the user had not placed any
antisemitic comments in his user profile. When I asked what other reasonable
meaning that user name could have, he suggested that I ask the user myself..

I asked him to confirm that this was the official position of FICS, and I
emailed others within FICS, and have not received any response. All I can
assume is that anti-semitism there is ok, as long as it is not so baltant
that it becomes obvions to a child under 3.


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Old March 6th 08, 09:02 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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help bot wrote:
As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to
explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for
"y" is intended.


In most Germanic languages, the letter J is pronounced like the Y in
`you'.


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Old March 7th 08, 01:10 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
Israel Silverman
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As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you",
I would like someone to explain why anyone
would choose the letter "j" when the sound
for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo",
because the sound matches, but it simply
doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the
intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb?


I have heard "joo" used in oral conversation years ago to mean "you."

I still think it's unlikely in this context.


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Old March 7th 08, 01:14 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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wrote in message
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Israel Silverman wrote:

A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized
after
the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so
sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew."


Or it could be Gary Killzjoo of the UK, an online gamer who has been
around for years.


Well, if that's so, then I truly have read everything.

Why don't you go out and find some *real* jew haters? Lord
knows that there are enough of those slimeballs around without
you having to manufacture new ones without evidence.


I would hardly characterize this as "without evidence." Certainly, some
doubt has been introduced, but that hardly turns the whole thing into
"without evidence"


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Old March 7th 08, 01:15 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
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"Israel Silverman" wrote in message
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"David Richerby" wrote in message
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Israel Silverman wrote:
A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly
realized after the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo."
Obviously, this is a not so sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew."


That seems the most likely, though it could be "kills you".


Upon further thought, I agree that there is a significant probability that it
could be "kills you."


I hope this means you will be offering a sincere apology to those
at FICS.


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Old March 7th 08, 01:50 AM posted to rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,soc.culture.jewish
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On 6-Mar-2008, "Israel Silverman" wrote:

wrote in message
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Israel Silverman wrote:

A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized
after
the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not
so
sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew."


Or it could be Gary Killzjoo of the UK, an online gamer who has been
around for years.


Well, if that's so, then I truly have read everything.

Why don't you go out and find some *real* jew haters? Lord
knows that there are enough of those slimeballs around without
you having to manufacture new ones without evidence.


I would hardly characterize this as "without evidence." Certainly, some
doubt has been introduced, but that hardly turns the whole thing into
"without evidence"


You suspected, you asked & so far, have been reasonable
about being mistaken. What more could anyone ask?

Susan
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Old March 7th 08, 09:13 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,soc.culture.jewish
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"help bot" wrote...

On Mar 6, 1:04 pm, wrote:

There are plenty of real examples of antisemitism out there.
Please don't trivialize the victims by putting what looks like
an innocent attempt to convey "I Kill You" in the standard way
that online gamers convey that thought into something that
it is not.


Your logic falls down: where did the "I" come
from, apart from a very wild imagination? In
the actual handle under discussion, there was
no "I", but there is "kill" and "z" and "joo".

In English, the phrase "kills you" is lacking an
important piece of information; namely, *who*
or *what* kills you? It could be a bear, for
instance, or a nasty germ, or even old age.

Before you become an arrogant critic, perhaps
you should do some studying? Just an idea.




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