Has there ever been a chess game that has had the exact same
moves ever been recorded ?

Understand that question ?

Lets say two players play a 47 move game or 50 move or 36 move game ,
has that game ever been played by two other people ?

In all the recorded games that you have in a computer data basse has
there ever been two games with the same moves for the whole game?

On Mar 26, 4:57*pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:
* *Has there ever been a chess game that has * * *had the exact same
moves ever been recorded ?

I've done Fool's Mate on different people. So as long as people think
along similar lines, it is possible, although improbable as the game
progresses, and the evidence would be almost negligable when you have
to prove it by record. I do believe that more repetitive games can be
found playing computer programs that evaluate the move with no attempt
of randomization.

I am talking about two humans , i just said the computer data base
because they hold a million recorded games i think ?

I just re-read your post and i understand what your saying , there mite
be a better chance of the same game played when computers play each
other..

On Mar 26, 9:57*pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:
I just re-read your post and i understand what your saying *, there mite
be a better chance of the same game played when computers play each
other..

Yeah, novices may depend on certain openings, so the games they play
against each other will show many similarities, but you gotta think
that the loser will pick a certain point and say, not gonna go there
again.

Yes but still that does not answer the question , if there are millions
of recorded games , have two games ever been played the same ?
You would think there have been but i have no idea how to look that
up..

SAT W-7 wrote:
Has there ever been a chess game that has had the exact same moves
ever been recorded ?

Yes, plenty of them. All the ones I'm aware of have been `grandmaster
draws' of under twenty moves. A while ago (probably a few years,
now), I posted some examples from Karpov's play in the Ruy Lopez but I
can't find them with Google and I don't have my copy of Fritz to hand.


Dave.

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:53:35 -0700, SAT W-7 wrote:

Yes but still that does not answer the question , if there are millions
of recorded games , have two games ever been played the same ?
You would think there have been but i have no idea how to look that
up..

There certainly are games that are the same. In my database there are 48
cases of this game 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1
b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 O-O 9.h3 Re8 10.Ng5 Rf8 11.Nf3 Re8 12.Ng5 1/2-1/2 and
I'm sure there would be other cases of drawing lines.
There are also games where one player has fallen into an opening trap and
then resigned, such as 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 d4 4.e3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 dxe3
6.Bxb4 exf2+ 7.Ke2 fxg1=N+ 8.Rxg1 Bg4+ 0-1 which has appeared 4 times in
my database.
Longer games, especially ones that go some distance from the opening
would be much less likely to be duplicated, but I do remember hearing of
cases when it has happened.

On Mar 27, 2:53*am, (SAT W-7) wrote:

* You would think there have been but i have no idea how to look that
up..

Each game is classified by opening-- start with that.

David Richerby wrote:
A while ago (probably a few years, now), I posted some examples from
Karpov's play in the Ruy Lopez but I can't find them with Google and
I don't have my copy of Fritz to hand.

The line I was thinking of is the one that has subsequently been
mentioned in

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...4a16e59865e941


Dave.

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