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This was posted in February 2007 at a time when I was both a member of the board and a candidate for re-election. One forum moderator, Tanstaafl, who we now know to be Herbert Rodney Vaughn, and who filed a 400 page ethics complaint against me in color (at USCF Expense) advocates that I should be permanently banned from posting to the USCF Issues Forum. tsawmiller agrees here and in other places that I should be banned from posting. Remember that I was elected to the board, elected by the USCF Membership. Later, Bill Hall appointed Tanstaafl and tsawmiller as Forum Moderators. They were not yet moderators at the time of these postings. It is obvious that they were appointed as moderators as a reward for advocating that I be banned from posting because Bill Hall along with Joel Channing wanted me banned. Note that even though I have filed a federal lawsuit over this, Vaughn and Sawmiller continue to be moderators. The fact that Bill Hall keeps Vaughn and Sawmiller as forum moderators even though for the last 7 months the USCF has been under a federal lawsuit for this is enough reason alone to fire Bill Hall. Sam Sloan |
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"samsloan" wrote in message
... Note that even though I have filed a federal lawsuit over this, Vaughn and Sawmiller continue to be moderators. The fact that Bill Hall keeps Vaughn and Sawmiller as forum moderators even though for the last 7 months the USCF has been under a federal lawsuit for this is enough reason alone to fire Bill Hall. You filed a federal lawsuit because you don't like the moderators of a usenet newsgroup? blink That should be fun to watch getting thrown out of court! Why don't you take your whiny, "everyone is against me, I'm being persecuted" act somewhere else, OK? |
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Bob Campbell wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message ... Note that even though I have filed a federal lawsuit over this, Vaughn and Sawmiller continue to be moderators. The fact that Bill Hall keeps Vaughn and Sawmiller as forum moderators even though for the last 7 months the USCF has been under a federal lawsuit for this is enough reason alone to fire Bill Hall. You filed a federal lawsuit because you don't like the moderators of a usenet newsgroup? blink That should be fun to watch getting thrown out of court! Why don't you take your whiny, "everyone is against me, I'm being persecuted" act somewhere else, OK? There are no moderators of this usenet group. Read the complaint and you'll understand the point being presented. Whether his argument flies or not is still to be determined. |
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:59:18 -0400, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message ... Note that even though I have filed a federal lawsuit over this, Vaughn and Sawmiller continue to be moderators. The fact that Bill Hall keeps Vaughn and Sawmiller as forum moderators even though for the last 7 months the USCF has been under a federal lawsuit for this is enough reason alone to fire Bill Hall. You filed a federal lawsuit because you don't like the moderators of a usenet newsgroup? blink That should be fun to watch getting thrown out of court! Why don't you take your whiny, "everyone is against me, I'm being persecuted" act somewhere else, OK? This does not concern a Usenet newsgroup. I am complaining about an internal forum of the USCF Membership, known as the USCF Issues Forum. I was elected to the USCF Executive Board in July 2006 and took office on August 14, 2006 for a one year term. I was strongly opposed by the USCF insiders, including especially Bill Goichberg and Joel Channing. In order to stop me from being re-elected, Goichberg sent out 17,000 postcards to USCF Members stating, "The Most Important thing about this election is to Stop Sam Sloan from being re-elected". Goichberg had every legal right to mail those 17, 000 postcards. What he did not have the legal right to do was appoint anti-Sam Sloan moderators to the USCF Issues Forum. I was subjected to every imaginable attack on the USCF Issues Forum, including being called a child molester. On the other hand, nothing negative was allowed to be posted on the USCF Issues Forum about my election opponents, particularly Susan Polgar and Paul Truong. Nobody was even allowed to ask them embarrassing questions. For example, nobody was allowed to question Paul Truong's job history or work background. Nobody was allowed to ask them whether they were married to each other or not. Turns out that they were married to each other but were keeping this fact a secret during the election campaign. I still have not seen this mentioned in Chess Life. Anybody who posted remarks in any way favorable to me had their postings pulled and found themselves suspended from posting. Anybody who was in my favor was suspended. Anybody against me could attack me as much as they wanted. All this because Bill Hall and Bill Goichberg appointed pro-Polgar and anti-Sam Sloan moderators. However, that is only one relatively small part of my lawsuit. The bigger issue is that it has been proven that Paul Truong, one of my election opponents, impersonated me and stole my identity by posting at least 2464 "Fake Sam Sloan" postings which contained obscene and pornographic remarks supposedly signed by me and other chess personalities. These Fake Sam Sloan postings were all posted here at rec.games.chess.politics , not on the USCF Issues Forum. However, because of the use among other things of identical IP addresses, it has been proven from the IP address that Paul Truong posted from on the USCF Issues Forum and the IP Address of the Fake Sam Sloan here that these were the same persons and that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan. Furthermore, I can prove that Bill Goichberg and Joel Channing knew that Paul Truong was the Fake Sam Sloan. Thus, by helping Paul Truong and his wife Susan Polgar be elected, they were perpetrating an election fraud on the USCF Membership. Sounds like you are not familiar with this federal lawsuit. You should read up on it, as there are more than one thousand postings about it here. My point about the above posting today is that Herbert Rodney Vaughn and Tim Sawmiller were appointed moderators by Bill Hall and Goichberg after they had both stated that I should be banned from posting to the USCF Issues Forum, even though I was a member of the board, and they are still to this day moderators of the USCF Issues Forum. All of the other outrageously anti-Sam Sloan moderators appointed during that period by Hall and Goichberg, including especially Gregory Alexander, who is the website manager and moderator of the Polgar-Truong Discussion Group, have since quit. In spite of my lawsuit, which has been sub-judice since October, 2007, Vaughn, who is a named defendant, is still a moderator of the USCF Issues Forum and is still voting to have me banned. (The ban has been passed but has not been put into effect yet.) By leaving Vaughn and Sawmiller as moderators, Hall is increasing every day the polential liability of the USCF and for that alone (not counting the other things such as the $300,000 the USCF is losing so far this year) Hall should be fired. Sam Sloan |
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Eric Schiller
wrote: You live in your own universe with its own rules. There is nothing wrong with moderators discussing specific postings. It is customary not to mention the name of the poster, but I have never seen any rules. You just make this stuff up. Eric, I have never seen you post to the USCF Issues Forum and you obviously know nothing about it. During the election campaign, the "moderators" deleted over one thousand postings. Anything remotely pro-Sam Sloan or anti-Polgar and Truong was deleted. We had two good moderators, Mike Aignar and Duncan Oxley. Both of them were pressured by the higher-ups especially Channing to become more active in deleting postings. As a result, Mike Aignar resigned in protest. Duncan Oxley, as you know, killed himself for reasons unknown. Their places were taken by several others who soon quit also complaining about pressures from above and finally Vaughn and Sawmiller were appointed. Also, during this time, there was the Forum Oversight Committee or FOC that had the power to restore a posting that had been deleted by the moderators. The FOC was also stacked with anti-Sam Sloan and pro- Polgar posters. However, several of the FOC members finally saw the light and stopped supporting Polgar and stopped attacking me. Notable examples of this were Steve of Tennessee and Ron Suarez. Also, Louis Blair stopped attacking me as much as he had previously. This meant that even the Fanatical Polgaristas such as Gregory Alexander and Terry Winchester who had been appointed as moderators often had the posts they had deleted restored. To deal with this situation, the insiders Goichberg and Channing created a new middle tier. A new "Moderation Committee" consisting of the pro-Polgar moderators plus one or two others was created with authority over the moderators. By then, there were only four remaining members of the FOC. All the others had quit, basically all saying that they had not accepted this assignment only to be told what to do by the higher-ups. So, to effectively get rid of the remaining FOC members, they took away their power to restore deleted postings, leaving them only with the power to restore people who had been banned or suspended. All this happened while the election campaign was going on. Although there were not that many regular members of the USCF Issues Forum, all of them can and do vote in the election. Their votes are easily enough to swing the election. Remember that the Office is supposed to remain neutral and politically independent. Obviously, this was not happening. Bill Hall, the Executive Director, was doing everything he could to get Polgar and Truong elected and to stop Sam Sloan from being re-elected. I believe that Bill Hall even allowed Polgar and Truong to run without paying the required $250 filing fee. He has never responded to questions about this. In short, due to this and other manipulations by the USCF Insiders including especially Goichberg, Channing and Hall, it cannot be said that this was a fairly conducted election. Sam Sloan |
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samsloan wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Eric Schiller wrote: You live in your own universe with its own rules. There is nothing wrong with moderators discussing specific postings. It is customary not to mention the name of the poster, but I have never seen any rules. You just make this stuff up. Eric, I have never seen you post to the USCF Issues Forum and you obviously know nothing about it. During the election campaign, the "moderators" deleted over one thousand postings. Anything remotely pro-Sam Sloan or anti-Polgar and Truong was deleted. We had two good moderators, Mike Aignar and Duncan Oxley. Both of them were pressured by the higher-ups especially Channing to become more active in deleting postings. As a result, Mike Aignar resigned in protest. Duncan Oxley, as you know, killed himself for reasons unknown. Their places were taken by several others who soon quit also complaining about pressures from above and finally Vaughn and Sawmiller were appointed. Also, during this time, there was the Forum Oversight Committee or FOC that had the power to restore a posting that had been deleted by the moderators. The FOC was also stacked with anti-Sam Sloan and pro- Polgar posters. However, several of the FOC members finally saw the light and stopped supporting Polgar and stopped attacking me. Notable examples of this were Steve of Tennessee and Ron Suarez. Also, Louis Blair stopped attacking me as much as he had previously. This meant that even the Fanatical Polgaristas such as Gregory Alexander and Terry Winchester who had been appointed as moderators often had the posts they had deleted restored. To deal with this situation, the insiders Goichberg and Channing created a new middle tier. A new "Moderation Committee" consisting of the pro-Polgar moderators plus one or two others was created with authority over the moderators. By then, there were only four remaining members of the FOC. All the others had quit, basically all saying that they had not accepted this assignment only to be told what to do by the higher-ups. So, to effectively get rid of the remaining FOC members, they took away their power to restore deleted postings, leaving them only with the power to restore people who had been banned or suspended. All this happened while the election campaign was going on. Although there were not that many regular members of the USCF Issues Forum, all of them can and do vote in the election. Their votes are easily enough to swing the election. Remember that the Office is supposed to remain neutral and politically independent. Obviously, this was not happening. Bill Hall, the Executive Director, was doing everything he could to get Polgar and Truong elected and to stop Sam Sloan from being re-elected. I believe that Bill Hall even allowed Polgar and Truong to run without paying the required $250 filing fee. He has never responded to questions about this. In short, due to this and other manipulations by the USCF Insiders including especially Goichberg, Channing and Hall, it cannot be said that this was a fairly conducted election. Sam Sloan Q: How many lies can balance on the point of Sam Sloan's head? A: See above. Sam, the voters had ample opportunity to see you and hear you bray. They threw you in the trash bin where you belong. Democracy works. |
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Eric Schiller
wrote: No, I don't use the forum, never will. By I am a regular blogger at one of the major blogs, DailyKos. You claim there is some rule about whether moderators can post about abusive posters. I have never seen such a rule at any blog. So you just made it up. Show me this "rule". As usual, even in your legal filings, you assume rules that don't exist. You make them, up based on how you think the world should be. Show me this rule! Eric Dear Eric, The Rules most often cited by Vaughn and Sawmiller to delete a posting or suspend or ban a member are the following: "Do not make personal attacks or defamatory or disparaging comments about any person, group or company. Do not flame or troll." "Do not post suggestions, without specifically identified substantial proof, that a person may have committed an unethical or criminal act." "If you refer to someone by name, use their actual name, not a made up or sarcastic name." These rules might on the surface seem reasonable but as applied by the extremely biased moderators gives them the power to delete anything they want to delete and to suspend anybody they want to suspend. For example, I started the thread about Grandmaster Benko being cheated out of $70,000 by Citibank and an obvious scammer named Wolfgang Roddewig in Brazil. That thread was deleted by Vaughn saying that I am not allowed to make negative remarks about Wolfgang Roddewig even though he is not a USCF member, or an American or a chess player. Nobody is allowed to post that Susan Polgar and Paul Truong stole the USCFs laptop computer on August 20, 2003 even though they admit that they took the computer on that date. They claim to have been authorized to take it "by the board" but when USCF President Beatriz Marinello at the time said that the board had most definitely not authorized Polgar and Truong to take that laptop computer, they have made vague statements about some other unidentified prior board having authorized this. The rule about no nicknames came about when Forum posters learned that they were not allowed to use the word Polgar without uttering words of high praise in connection with that name. Since they were not allowed to use the word "Polgar", they started to call her by various nicknames including "Some.Poor.Soul", "The Name that One Dare Not Speak", "Chairman Susan" and various others. Of course, the word Trollgar was banned too. This is by no means a comprehensive list. Basically, being opposed to the election of Polgar and Truong or even disagreeing with them on one minor point got you suspended from posting. Sam Sloan |
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Eric Schiller
wrote: If the USCF insists on forums, they should be like DailyKos, where nothing is deleted. If people with high status (mojo) vote to hide a comment, it becomes non-public, but is still accessible to “Trusted Users” (a status I generally have), and can be unhidden if enough TUs vote for it. On the other hand, everyone can vote for postings, and the most popular go on the recommended list. To insure good posts don’t get buried, there is a daily Diary rescue, where a committee selects worthy posts and puts links on the front page. The DailyKos system works very well, and handles trolls effectively. Only posts are hidden, no one is censored except for violating clearly stated rules. You should look at DailyKos to see how it is done right, and make appropriate suggestions to the USCF. Eric, You have made a serious and interesting suggestion here. There are thousands of postings that have been pulled or hidden from the USCF Issues Forum. Only three people are allowed to see them: Vaughn, Sawmiller and Vibbert. Even the FOC members are not allowed to review them any more, nor can the board, or at least I could not when I was on the board. This is obviously wrong when Vaughn and Sawmiller are outrageously biased and Vibbert is hardly neutral. Your suggestion is to create a group of "Trusted Users" who could vote to restore a hidden post. Assuming that this committee of Trusted Users is reasonably large and representative and not filled with persons like Vaughn and Sawmiller whose agendas are well known, this would result in most of the several thousand postings that have been hidden to be revealed and would allow the general membership to find out what has really been going on behind the scenes. It would also send a clear message to all moderators and board members that their dirty deeds will not remain hidden forever and will eventually come out. Sunshine is the best disinfectant, as they say. Accordingly, I am forwarding your suggestion to the board. Do not hold your breath waiting for them to enact it however. Sam Sloan |
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM, wrote:
John Donaldson, Susan Polgar, and others have asked you to remove us from your spam list. We are not interested in your sick and deranged fantasies. If this is a serious organization, you would have been banned long ago. I find it quite comical that Susan Polgar and Paul Truong state that they do not want to receive my postings when they on a daily basis attack their fellow board members from their own protected Chess Discussion group where responses to their attacks are not allowed and they also attack their fellow board members from http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com where again they control the responses. There is a simple solution to your problem. All you have to do is resign from the board and as soon as it is certified that you have resigned and that it is not another April Fools Joke and you cannot take back your resignations, I will stop sending you emails. Regarding John Donaldson, as he is the USA Zone President, a position to which I nominated him, I am surprised that he has not taken a more active interest in the plight of the regular USCF Members. If he cannot stand the heat, I think that he should consider resigning too. Sam Sloan |
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