Quadibloc writes:

So, instead of settling matters, it seems the game hopelessly
contradicts itself!

I have not set up the board to see to what extent your analysis
matches mine, but even without that, I can see that you are on
the right track. I am guessing that what you are missing out
(just as I missed it myself at first) is that the board in the
Chapter 17 game is not set up according to Burroughs' own
appendix rules. The difference is that the Chief and Princess
are set up mirrored, just like in chess. As soon as I tried that,
everything else fell in place.

Fredrik

On Jun 19, 4:52 am, Fredrik Ekman wrote:
The difference is that the Chief and Princess
are set up mirrored, just like in chess. As soon as I tried that,
everything else fell in place.

Ah. I did assume that, unintentionally, when thinking of the attack by
the Black Chief on the Orange Chief - but I did not then allow for
that when following the Orange Odwar.

John Savard

On Jun 19, 6:32 am, Quadibloc wrote:
On Jun 19, 4:52 am, Fredrik Ekman wrote:

The difference is that the Chief and Princess
are set up mirrored, just like in chess. As soon as I tried that,
everything else fell in place.

Ah. I did assume that, unintentionally, when thinking of the attack by
the Black Chief on the Orange Chief - but I did not then allow for
that when following the Orange Odwar.

The very first sentence of the description of the game, I now find, in
turning back to it, indeed forces the conclusion that the symmetry of
the Earth chessboard was used!

John Savard

On Jun 18, 9:08 pm, Quadibloc wrote:

But we are told that the move of Black's Chief's Odwar was the *only*
possible move that would capture the Orange Odwar, despite the advance
of the Chief's Panthan.

The Chief's Panthan *didn't* advance, it was the Chief's Odwar's
Panthan, so the distance would have been four squares, not three. That
was my mistake!

John Savard

On Jun 11, 11:34 am, Quadibloc wrote:

Now, I remember that a few years ago, a Canadian firm - AMAV might
have been its name - produced a "500 Game" set

Actually, it was "222 Games".

John Savard

On 2008-06-10, wrote:

But to return to the topic of this group: a big advantage for chess is
that you can go virtually anywhere and play. The rules are the same.
It is truly international. Checkers / draughts is fragmented, and the
same thing is not true. What you play in the U.K. will not be what
you play in France, and likely not what you play in Montreal, though
it *is* likely to be what you might play in Winnipeg. Even in the
U.S. you might play "straight" or you might play "pool" checkers
depending on the locale. In Italy it's different again ... and on and
on.

Indeed, imagine what it would be like if you found they played a different
chess in Japan, another different chess in China, and yet again another
in Korea...


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On 2008-06-15, wrote:
On Jun 14, 6:00 pm, Quadibloc wrote:
On Jun 14, 2:25 pm, David Richerby
wrote:

Rich Hutnik wrote:
... because 10x10 boards are not readily available in North
America...
Last time I looked, Canada was in North America.

And 10 by 10 boards aren't available readily there (here) either,
since we play our Checkers the same 8 by 8 way they Draughts in the
mother country. But I don't know about Mexico.

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, you *can* get 10x10 boards
from several sources in Quebec. We won't however start the debate on
whether Quebec is properly part of Canada

I suspect that even the most rabid Quebecois would still be willing
to grant that they are part of North America, however.


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I suspect that even the most rabid Quebecois would still be willing
to grant that they are part of North America, however.

C'est vrai, ca, mais peut-etre ils ne l'aiment pas beaucoup....

Indeed, imagine what it would be like if you found they played a different
chess in Japan, another different chess in China, and yet again another
in Korea...

I take your point, but they also all play "western" chess as a
standard as well. Games such as Shogi and Xiang Qi exist alongside
western chess, not as a near-exclusive replacement. This is not true
for checkers / draughts, unfortunately..