big snip

I have to admire Phil. He's getting his butt kicked all over the
place on this issue by several people but continues to return for
more, in the hopes that volumes of fractured prose will provide a
sufficient weapon.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:01:19 -0700, "J.D. Walker"
wrote:

..
He seems to feel if he acts sufficiently indignant, people will impute
factuality to his garboon.

"Garboon" Mike? Really?? That word set me to searching as I have never
heard of it before. Not a particularly good find at the end of the
trail. Sort of like finding a dog pile at the end of the rainbow...

[ http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...n&defid=306402 ]

Hmmm.

Number 5 was analogy I generally intended: "An ashtray stand.
Commonly found in public spaces or semi public spaces as a courtesy to
patrons. The top of which is filled with a shallow layer of sand in a
tray used to extinguish tobacco butts. Also found within the sand,
gum, spit, boogers, matches and other small useless items found at the
bottom of trouser pockets."

Wasn't aware of the various racist alternate meanings.

I rather like number 7, however.Happened to a couple of different guys
when I was in high school. (No, I wasn't the flusher or the flushee.)

A word the meaning of which is highly dependent on context.

Let's keep the garbage by an anonymous
"Nomen Nescio" archived.

====
Wlod

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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:30:05 +0200 (CEST)
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Subject: The Polgar "Resignation Offer"
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defamatory snip is a wart; the FSS, a malignant tumor

Perhaps the mannered scholarly Doc Dowd could carefully explain
why he finds the alleged exposer of an alleged kiddie****er* so
much more malignant than the alleged kiddie****er* himself?
A parakeet whispered in my ear that Doc Dowd prefers his native
culture, if you can understand what I mean. Foreigners may even
be welcome but only if they stay within their given limits.
Doc Dowd is also blind to the fact that not one person besides
the frivolous plaintiffs themselfs have said the "FSS" posts
lowered their opinion of the plaintiffs. Not a single one.
If I was Doc Dowd then I would be more careful with the company
I would keep. History will remember him as an ally of a dirty
jackass a gymnast molester and a wart. Good work Doc Dowd, more
obvious the USCF is a washedout and needs urgent terminatation
or better still hand it over to the jackass who is so desparate
to hold an office again.
*the word kiddie****er is (c)of Mr William Brock

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On Jul 4, 9:49 am, SBD wrote:
On Jul 4, 11:35 am, "Chess One" wrote:



In which case she has played a very strange gambit since the start in
insisting that all information be on the table. Since she is in no-one's
opinion a poor chess player nor inept strategist, then I must say that your
comment above to me here is counter-intuitive.

Well, the first comment is true, the second, a half-truth. She is
perhaps a very inept strategist in the game of life.You cannot
correlate success at the board with success in life, or do you believe
so since you are "ept" at neither????

Actually, it is a desperate gambit--yes, gambit is
an apt term here. Let me quote from the first post
of this thread:

Susan Polgar offered to resign from the USCF Executive
Board Monday provided they (1) "give me the FULL CONSENT
to release all information to ALL USCF members" and (2)
" If I cannot prove what I said is true then I will
resign immediately."

The other half of the challenge: "However, if I can
prove that what I said is true then President Goichberg
would resign from the board immediately."

END of quote.

In my opinion, this is pure blackmail of the type:

If I go down, so will you.

Regards,

Wlod

On Jul 4, 11:30 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:01:19 -0700, "J.D. Walker"

wrote:

.

He seems to feel if he acts sufficiently indignant, people will impute
factuality to his garboon.
"Garboon" Mike? Really?? That word set me to searching as I have never
heard of it before. Not a particularly good find at the end of the
trail. Sort of like finding a dog pile at the end of the rainbow...

[http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=306402]

Hmmm.

Number 5 was analogy I generally intended: "An ashtray stand.
Commonly found in public spaces or semi public spaces as a courtesy to
patrons. The top of which is filled with a shallow layer of sand in a
tray used to extinguish tobacco butts. Also found within the sand,
gum, spit, boogers, matches and other small useless items found at the
bottom of trouser pockets."

Wasn't aware of the various racist alternate meanings.

I rather like number 7, however.Happened to a couple of different guys
when I was in high school. (No, I wasn't the flusher or the flushee.)

A word the meaning of which is highly dependent on context.

Actually, both meanings no 1 and 7
apply simultaneously:

His spelling, logic and communication skills
are affected by all that garbooning to which
he has subjected himself so willingly.

Oh-la-la-la...

Wlod

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) wrote:
On Jul 4, 11:30 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:01:19 -0700, "J.D. Walker"

wrote:

.

He seems to feel if he acts sufficiently indignant, people will impute
factuality to his garboon.
"Garboon" Mike? Really?? That word set me to searching as I have never
heard of it before. Not a particularly good find at the end of the
trail. Sort of like finding a dog pile at the end of the rainbow...
[http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=306402]
Hmmm.

Number 5 was analogy I generally intended: "An ashtray stand.
Commonly found in public spaces or semi public spaces as a courtesy to
patrons. The top of which is filled with a shallow layer of sand in a
tray used to extinguish tobacco butts. Also found within the sand,
gum, spit, boogers, matches and other small useless items found at the
bottom of trouser pockets."

Wasn't aware of the various racist alternate meanings.

I rather like number 7, however.Happened to a couple of different guys
when I was in high school. (No, I wasn't the flusher or the flushee.)

A word the meaning of which is highly dependent on context.

Actually, both meanings no 1 and 7
apply simultaneously:

His spelling, logic and communication skills
are affected by all that garbooning to which
he has subjected himself so willingly.

Oh-la-la-la...

Wlod

Well, I was only curious about the vocabulary... So I will duck out now
and you folks can go back to your amusements.
--

"Do that which is right..."

Rev. J.D. Walker

On Jul 5, 3:24 am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"
wrote:

I rather like number 7, however.Happened to a couple of different guys
when I was in high school. (No, I wasn't the flusher or the flushee.)

A word the meaning of which is highly dependent on context.

Actually, both meanings no 1 and 7
apply simultaneously:

His spelling, logic and communication skills
are affected by all that garbooning to which
he has subjected himself so willingly.

Oh-la-la-la...


A bunch of meanies, picking on a poor,
defenseless imbecile from another planet.
How would you feel if say, you traveled
millions, no-- zillions of miles and when
you landed, they treated you like this?
Think about it-- they would perceive you
as a freak too, with your difficulties in
learning their language and your apparent
ignorance of everything they deem sane.

I feel for him. In fact, I say you must
first flush the toilet before proceeding--
it's a matter of keeping the old turds safe
from cross-contamination. Where do
you people come up with these funky
words? I used to work in the theater,
and never once did I hear an ashtray
stand referred to as a "gaboon". In fact,
I often stood around among several of
them and all ever heard them called was
"loser" or "get-lost" -- terms which don't
even sound similar. Alan Ladd got all
the good roles. Once, when I was
trying out for a part where I was to beat
him up, AL went into what can only be
described as "fast motion", knocking
me out cold. I didn't get the part, for
some reason. I think they gave it to
Earnest Borgnine or somebody.


-- help bot

"Mike Murray" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:10:24 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:

.
I see below you write "We don't need a court to make all of our
determinations" and yet 'we' conduct one here. A kangaroo court on some
Soviet model. What is this 'we'? Is that something avowed by American
culture?

No, Phil. Reasoned discussion without the ability to enforce any
judgment (as a court can), means we are not a Kangaroo Court

This, of course, has been pointed out to Phil several times, but he
wilfully refuses to acknowledge his error.

Reminds me a bit of Shakespeare, "Reason, by compulsion!?" People have said
that they have /told/ me how reasonable they are, as if autodidacts in sole
possession of such equanimity of mind.

Of course the 'pointing out' is a means of editing what there is to reason
about, as if that act was itself a reasonable one, whereas I have merely
preferred to take all in before publishing such certainties as they. This
indeed appears to be my principal sin.

He seems to feel if he acts sufficiently indignant, people will impute
factuality to his garboon.

In interesting old word which occurs in Florio, pp 55, 443, and also
Drayton's poems p. 88 and also Stanihurst p.34. The writer no doubt was
thinking of GARBOIL, a commotion, tumult, uproar, or confusion. Its stem~ is
almost certainly GAR; to force, to compel, to make [North] and with
alternate spelling of GARE.

And from that link, we can easily find the A. Sax root~

GARDE: caused, made, as mentioned by the startling comment;

"he garde hyme goo"

which occurs in Torrent of Portugal, p. 28

Lest of course it is intended to be a later word ?- something from A. Norman
such as GARGOUN; which has a meaning of 'jargon', as well as simply
'language. In occurs in Wright's Seven Sages on pages 106, 107.

Since all those are very easy to look up, even to their detail, I expect
they will be uncontroversial and no substantive additional comment will be
made. How unsatisfactory!

Therefore...

More controversial is the origin of the word CHESS. Now, while everyone is
hitting the books I wonder if they will conclude that one early possibility
may have come from an A. Sax verb, CHESE; (1) to chose; (2) saw

"Even til the hegh bord he chese,"
//. Syr Gowghter, 312.

There are of course many later words in Anglo Norman to select - but has
anyone an earlier alternate candidate than the one above?

Phil Innes

Chess One wrote:
"Mike Murray" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:10:24 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:

.
I see below you write "We don't need a court to make all of our
determinations" and yet 'we' conduct one here. A kangaroo court on some
Soviet model. What is this 'we'? Is that something avowed by American
culture?
No, Phil. Reasoned discussion without the ability to enforce any
judgment (as a court can), means we are not a Kangaroo Court
This, of course, has been pointed out to Phil several times, but he
wilfully refuses to acknowledge his error.

Reminds me a bit of Shakespeare, "Reason, by compulsion!?" People have said
that they have /told/ me how reasonable they are, as if autodidacts in sole
possession of such equanimity of mind.

Of course the 'pointing out' is a means of editing what there is to reason
about, as if that act was itself a reasonable one, whereas I have merely
preferred to take all in before publishing such certainties as they. This
indeed appears to be my principal sin.

He seems to feel if he acts sufficiently indignant, people will impute
factuality to his garboon.

In interesting old word which occurs in Florio, pp 55, 443, and also
Drayton's poems p. 88 and also Stanihurst p.34. The writer no doubt was
thinking of GARBOIL, a commotion, tumult, uproar, or confusion. Its stem~ is
almost certainly GAR; to force, to compel, to make [North] and with
alternate spelling of GARE.

And from that link, we can easily find the A. Sax root~

GARDE: caused, made, as mentioned by the startling comment;

"he garde hyme goo"

which occurs in Torrent of Portugal, p. 28

Lest of course it is intended to be a later word ?- something from A. Norman
such as GARGOUN; which has a meaning of 'jargon', as well as simply
'language. In occurs in Wright's Seven Sages on pages 106, 107.

Since all those are very easy to look up, even to their detail, I expect
they will be uncontroversial and no substantive additional comment will be
made. How unsatisfactory!

Therefore...

More controversial is the origin of the word CHESS. Now, while everyone is
hitting the books I wonder if they will conclude that one early possibility
may have come from an A. Sax verb, CHESE; (1) to chose; (2) saw

"Even til the hegh bord he chese,"
//. Syr Gowghter, 312.

There are of course many later words in Anglo Norman to select - but has
anyone an earlier alternate candidate than the one above?

Phil Innes


Phil, you do know that help is available, don't you?

On Jul 5, 1:29 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
Chess One wrote:
"Mike Murray" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:10:24 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:

.
I see below you write "We don't need a court to make all of our
determinations" and yet 'we' conduct one here. A kangaroo court on some
Soviet model. What is this 'we'? Is that something avowed by American
culture?
No, Phil. Reasoned discussion without the ability to enforce any
judgment (as a court can), means we are not a Kangaroo Court
This, of course, has been pointed out to Phil several times, but he
wilfully refuses to acknowledge his error.

Reminds me a bit of Shakespeare, "Reason, by compulsion!?" People have said
that they have /told/ me how reasonable they are, as if autodidacts in sole
possession of such equanimity of mind.

Of course the 'pointing out' is a means of editing what there is to reason
about, as if that act was itself a reasonable one, whereas I have merely
preferred to take all in before publishing such certainties as they. This
indeed appears to be my principal sin.

He seems to feel if he acts sufficiently indignant, people will impute
factuality to his garboon.

In interesting old word which occurs in Florio, pp 55, 443, and also
Drayton's poems p. 88 and also Stanihurst p.34. The writer no doubt was
thinking of GARBOIL, a commotion, tumult, uproar, or confusion. Its stem~ is
almost certainly GAR; to force, to compel, to make [North] and with
alternate spelling of GARE.

And from that link, we can easily find the A. Sax root~

GARDE: caused, made, as mentioned by the startling comment;

"he garde hyme goo"

which occurs in Torrent of Portugal, p. 28

Lest of course it is intended to be a later word ?- something from A. Norman
such as GARGOUN; which has a meaning of 'jargon', as well as simply
'language. In occurs in Wright's Seven Sages on pages 106, 107.

Since all those are very easy to look up, even to their detail, I expect
they will be uncontroversial and no substantive additional comment will be
made. How unsatisfactory!

Therefore...

More controversial is the origin of the word CHESS. Now, while everyone is
hitting the books I wonder if they will conclude that one early possibility
may have come from an A. Sax verb, CHESE; (1) to chose; (2) saw

"Even til the hegh bord he chese,"
//. Syr Gowghter, 312.

There are of course many later words in Anglo Norman to select - but has
anyone an earlier alternate candidate than the one above?

Phil Innes

Phil, you do know that help is available, don't you?

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