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  #81  
Old July 9th 09, 10:39 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

ivans move is King E-6 to D-5 ....

I do not think ivan will get it pawns close to your pawns if it can help
it ..

Now GC + I.I

Seems like GC just went into a shell like a turtle and wants to defend
the King but really it needs to be attacking like Ivan ....This will be
a good end game to study especially if Ivan can win .

Can GC win by really doing nothing but defend ? It has a pawn
advantage so i think GC needs to be more aggressive and put Ivan on the
defence.....

Maybe Mr K or Helpot will tell you how GC should be playing.....I think
it should be playing like Ivan is now ..

If i were you id work on GC end games and try and make GC stronger that
way ...I have no idea how hard that is to do .....BUT still this game is
long from being over so we will see how GC and Ivan do.......

Notic how Ivan got the King to the middle of the board so it can attack
left or right .....

2.38 PM Thur now , i am off until Friday morning when i get home from
work ..

by by

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Old July 9th 09, 11:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

On Jul 9, 5:39*pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:

Maybe Mr K or Helpot will tell you how GC should be playing.....I think
it should be playing like Ivan is now ..


I'm not going to give Sanny any advice. I don't trust him, and any
suggestions I make, whether specific or general, might be used in lieu
of actual GetClub-generated moves. I may post analysis of past moves
when doing so cannot influence the future course of the game, but
that's all.
  #83  
Old July 10th 09, 06:27 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

On Jul 10, 2:39*am, (SAT W-7) wrote:
ivans move is King E-6 to D-5 ....


GetClub played Knight at c4 to d2.

This move was played by thinking for 40 sec by Easy Level.

Easy[40 sec / move] - IVAN [80 sec/ move]

1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 cxe4
4. Nxe4 Bf5
5. Nc5 e5
6. Nxb7 Qxd4
7. Qxd4 exd4
8. Nf3 Bc8
9. Na5 Bb4+
10. Bd2 Bxd2
11. Nxd2 Bf5
12. 0-0-0 Ne7
13. Nd2-b3 0-0
14. Nxd4 Bg4
15. Be2 Bxe2
16. Nxe2 Na6
17. Rd7 Rfe8
18. Nc3 Nc5
19. Rd6 Rad8
20. RxR RxR
21. R-d1 Rxd1
22. Kxd1 f6
23. Nc4 K-f7
24. K-e1 K-e6
25. N-e2 K-d5
26. N-d2

GetClub is at advantage of 1.29 points

I do not think ivan will get it pawns close to your pawns if it can help
it ..


It is the only way to win. IVAN needs +2 pawns to win the game. So
its very tough to win the game for IVAN. However it can Draw the game
in many ways easily.

Now GC + I.I

Seems like GC just went into a shell like a turtle and wants to defend
the King but really it needs to be attacking like Ivan ....This will be
a *good end game to study especially if Ivan can win .


Yes, all pieces are on 2nd rank and King is on 1st rank. Easy Level
will never allow IVAN to capture extra pawn. So very tough game for
IVAN. Max IVAN can do is draw the game.


* *Can GC win by really doing nothing but defend ? * It has a pawn
advantage so i think GC needs to be more aggressive and put Ivan on the
defence.....


Yes, That should be done. But GetClub is unable to see any advantage
in 19 depth it sees.

Maybe Mr K or Helpot will tell you how GC should be playing.....I think
it should be playing like Ivan is now ..


I dont know anything about End Game. So I have to seek advice from
Chess Players on End Game.

Now the Middle game and Opening have been made much stronger as per
advice of chess players. Now is the time to learn End Game.

If i were you id work on GC end games and try and make GC stronger that
way ...I have no idea how hard that is to do .....BUT still this game is
long from being over so we will see how GC and Ivan do.......


End game are very different. Each end game needs new rule. So Its
harder to train end game than Middle and Opening.

Notic how Ivan got the King to the middle of the board so it can *attack
left or right .....


Yes, Ivan is on right track. Still it will be a long game.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



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Old July 10th 09, 07:12 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

Maybe Mr K or Helpot will tell you how GC should be playing.....I think
it should be playing like Ivan is now ..


* I'm not going to give Sanny any advice. I don't trust him, and any
suggestions I make, whether specific or general, might be used in lieu
of actual GetClub-generated moves. I may post analysis of past moves
when doing so cannot influence the future course of the game, but
that's all.


I will only use your advice to improve GetClub. Incase with the
improvement GetClub plays better moves that will be good.

Just like your suggestions made middle game stronger and GetClub took
extra pawn in just 15 moves. End game improvement will make it win
more quickly with extra pawn.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

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Old July 10th 09, 12:23 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

Ivans move is Knight E-7 to F-5 ...

Ivan is thinking hard now knight to a-4 and then king to e-5 and now
knight to f-5 .....that is the move too F-5

That was about 3 min ...One min for each of those moves it was thinking
about ..

GC is protecting the King when it is not under attack...

GC + I. 0

nite

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Old July 10th 09, 11:33 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

On Jul 10, 7:23*am, (SAT W-7) wrote:

GC is protecting the King when it is not under attack...


It would be amusing if GetClub's next two moves were Nd2-b1 and Ne2-
g1. Then every one of its remaining men would be on their original
squares.
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Old July 11th 09, 04:22 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

Sanny want to start a new thread ?
This one is getting long..
If not that is OK.....

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Old July 11th 09, 06:38 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

On Jul 10, 4:23*pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:
Ivans move is Knight E-7 to F-5 ...


GetClub played Pawn at b2 to b3.

This move was played by thinking for 90 sec by Easy Level.

Easy[40 sec / move] - IVAN [80 sec/ move]

1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 cxe4
4. Nxe4 Bf5
5. Nc5 e5
6. Nxb7 Qxd4
7. Qxd4 exd4
8. Nf3 Bc8
9. Na5 Bb4+
10. Bd2 Bxd2
11. Nxd2 Bf5
12. 0-0-0 Ne7
13. Nd2-b3 0-0
14. Nxd4 Bg4
15. Be2 Bxe2
16. Nxe2 Na6
17. Rd7 Rfe8
18. Nc3 Nc5
19. Rd6 Rad8
20. RxR RxR
21. R-d1 Rxd1
22. Kxd1 f6
23. Nc4 K-f7
24. K-e1 K-e6
25. N-e2 K-d5
26. N-d2 N-f5
27. b3

GetClub is at advantage of 1.57 points

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old July 11th 09, 08:01 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

Ivans move Pawn G-7 to G-5 ..

GC + I.I

That was about one and half in thinking..

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Old July 11th 09, 08:27 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Ivan vs Easy level GC ..

On Jul 11, 12:01*pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:
Ivans move Pawn G-7 to G-5 ..


GetClub played King at e1 to f1.

This move was played by thinking for 90 sec by Easy Level.

Easy[40 sec / move] - IVAN [80 sec/ move]

1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 cxe4
4. Nxe4 Bf5
5. Nc5 e5
6. Nxb7 Qxd4
7. Qxd4 exd4
8. Nf3 Bc8
9. Na5 Bb4+
10. Bd2 Bxd2
11. Nxd2 Bf5
12. 0-0-0 Ne7
13. Nd2-b3 0-0
14. Nxd4 Bg4
15. Be2 Bxe2
16. Nxe2 Na6
17. Rd7 Rfe8
18. Nc3 Nc5
19. Rd6 Rad8
20. RxR RxR
21. R-d1 Rxd1
22. Kxd1 f6
23. Nc4 K-f7
24. K-e1 K-e6
25. N-e2 K-d5
26. N-d2 N-f5
27. b3 g5
28. K-f1

GetClub is at advantage of 1.46 points

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



 




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