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Old December 4th 16, 04:29 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Offramp
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I think play in recent world championship matches has become too technical. Players are better than in the 1930s and shouldn't be given so much time to think.

Time control is currently "for full time control games, 40 moves in 100 minutes, then 50 extra minutes at move 40, and 15 extra minutes at move 60, with 30 seconds increment per move throughout. The player with the best score after 12 games is World Champion; if tied, players will play four rapid games."

Or "for rapid games, 25 minutes with 10 seconds increment per move (3.7.1a).. The player with the best score after four games is World Champion; if tied, players will play up to five two-game blitz matches."

I think this would be better:
"For full time control games, 40 moves in 60 minutes, then 30 extra minutes at move 40, and 10 extra minutes at move 60, with 15 seconds increment per move throughout."

But rapid games remain the same : 25 minutes with 10 seconds increment per move.
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Old December 4th 16, 05:11 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On 04/12/16 16:29, Offramp wrote:
I think play in recent world championship matches has become too
technical. Players are better than in the 1930s and shouldn't be
given so much time to think.


They aren't. It may be worth noting that the recent WC
time limits ...

Time control is currently "for full time control games, 40 moves in
100 minutes, then 50 extra minutes at move 40, and 15 extra minutes
at move 60, with 30 seconds increment per move throughout. [...]"


.... are almost identical to those used by [eg] 4NCL, which is played by
players from GM down to roughly 1500 FIDE rating [the only difference
is the extra 15 minutes]. In earlier times, WC matches were played at
much more leisurely rates, inc adjournments, while other serious chess,
such as tournaments and [in the UK] county matches, typically used much
faster limits.

The WC should be the pinnacle of chess, and the players should
be given as much time as is compatible with a reasonable schedule. It
should not be decided by 5-minute games, nor even by rapidplay. Hands
up if you think the recent game 12 would have been a perfunctory draw
if that would have meant the Champion retaining the title, as in the
old days?

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Andy Walker,
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Old December 4th 16, 10:10 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Paul
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Default Next world championship

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:29:25 PM UTC, Offramp wrote:
I think play in recent world championship matches has become too technical. Players are better than in the 1930s and shouldn't be given so much time to think.

Time control is currently "for full time control games, 40 moves in 100 minutes, then 50 extra minutes at move 40, and 15 extra minutes at move 60, with 30 seconds increment per move throughout. The player with the best score after 12 games is World Champion; if tied, players will play four rapid games."

Or "for rapid games, 25 minutes with 10 seconds increment per move (3.7.1a). The player with the best score after four games is World Champion; if tied, players will play up to five two-game blitz matches."

I think this would be better:
"For full time control games, 40 moves in 60 minutes, then 30 extra minutes at move 40, and 10 extra minutes at move 60, with 15 seconds increment per move throughout."

But rapid games remain the same : 25 minutes with 10 seconds increment per move.


Since you've shown up, why don't you resolve the other thread and tell us
which GM you think David Helfgott looks like. I think it will be some GM
whom I've never seen. I don't think people often know what GMs looks like.
Stop keeping everyone in suspense.

Paul
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Old December 5th 16, 09:53 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Bronstein.
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Old December 5th 16, 12:59 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Paul
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:53:12 AM UTC, Offramp wrote:
Bronstein.


Yes, the Dr Bronstein in the US who isn't a chess player: http://www.idvl.org/harrisburglivinglegacy/Bio27.html

Paul
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Old December 6th 16, 02:11 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 08:29:24 -0800 (PST), Offramp
wrote:

I think play in recent world championship matches has become too technical. Players are better than in the 1930s and shouldn't be given so much time to think.


Why do you say that? Magnus missed a win in several games in the full
time control and karjakin missed a couple himself. As a matter of
fact when players like these meet in a match their level of play drops
because there is so much tension. Magnus even drew the last game
because he wanted to take his chances in the rapid.

EZoto

Time control is currently "for full time control games, 40 moves in 100 minutes, then 50 extra minutes at move 40, and 15 extra minutes at move 60, with 30 seconds increment per move throughout. The player with the best score after 12 games is World Champion; if tied, players will play four rapid games."

Or "for rapid games, 25 minutes with 10 seconds increment per move (3.7.1a). The player with the best score after four games is World Champion; if tied, players will play up to five two-game blitz matches."

I think this would be better:
"For full time control games, 40 moves in 60 minutes, then 30 extra minutes at move 40, and 10 extra minutes at move 60, with 15 seconds increment per move throughout."

But rapid games remain the same : 25 minutes with 10 seconds increment per move.


 




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