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Briarroot wrote in message ...
Nick (The Liar) wrote: Briarroot wrote: The only remaining question is: does Nick prefer boiled, baked or barbecued pygmy? LMAO The reader may understand why Jerome Bibuld wrote to advise me that Briarroot is "beneath human dispute". For the record, Briarroot also has written that, by clear implication (in opposing Jerome Bibuld), Briarroot supported apartheid in South Africa. --Nick Briarroot wrote: (snipped) In "opposing" as you term it, Bibuld here and now in 2003, I could hardly have had any effect on apartheid in South Africa which ended many years ago. Briarroot has distorted what he wrote about his unconditional opposition to Jerome Bibuld, which was *not* just "here and now in 2003", but evidently for all times everywhere prior to 25 May 2003. ... In the thread, "Zhang Zhong revisited" (25 May 2003), Briarroot wrote to Mark Houlsby (Briarroot's complete post): "Mark Houlsby (The Particularly Obtuse Twit) wrote: Briarroot wrote: Houlsby's obtuseness remains unchallenged. (snips rest of offensive nonsense) You've proved Mr. Bibuld right, if nothing else. If that were true it would be the first time he was ever right about anything." --Briarroot (25 May 2003) ("He" refers to Jerome Bibuld here.) (Later in that thread, Briarroot and Mark Houlsby continued to argue about whether or not Jerome Bibuld had been "ever right about anything" before in his life. And Briarroot did *not* retract his evident contention that Jerome Bibuld never has been "right about anything".) Hence, according to his own words, Briarroot believes that Jerome Bibuld was never "right about anything" prior to 25 May 2003 (or that Jerome Bibuld was always wrong about everything). So let's go back to the time when apartheid did exist in South Africa. Either apartheid should exist or apartheid should not exist. Jerome Bibuld believed that apartheid should *not* exist. According to his own words, Briarroot believes that Jerome Bibuld must have been wrong. Hence, the clear implication is that Briarroot believed that apartheid should exist (which was *not an outrageous position* among many politically right-wing Americans during the 1950s-80s, though today evidently most of them prefer to deny ever having believed that). Of course, I can infer what Briarroot believes (or believed) only from what he writes here (and not necessarily from what he writes about what he wrote). Nick, you're a thimble-rigger! It is *you* who is doing all the distorting. You are taking my casual, offhand remark about Bibuld's support of you and Houlsby, and blowing it all out of proportion. After Briarroot's comment on Jerome Bibuld in the "Zhang Zhong revisited" thread, Briarroot *continued* to argue against Mark Houlsby about whether or not Jerome Bibuld was "ever right about anything" before. In his later posts, Briarroot had ample opportunities to retract or to qualify his unconditional assertion that Jerome Bibuld had never been right before. In particular, Briarroot *might* have written, "Jerome Bibuld has never been right about anything *except* his opposing apartheid", but Briarroot *never* wrote that. In "Zhang Zhong revisited" (26 May 2003), I wrote to Briarroot: "For the record, it should be noted that Briarroot believes, at least by implication, that Jerome Bibuld was wrong to oppose apartheid in South Africa." Then Briarroot *had* the opportunity to write, hypothetically: "I regret what I wrote about Jerome Bibuld having never been right before. Actually, I believe that he was right to oppose apartheid in South Africa." But Briarroot did *not* write anything like that, and Briarroot did *not* dispute the implication that he believed that "Jerome Bibuld was wrong to oppose apartheid in South Africa". Today, of course, hardly anyone who ever supported or sympathized with apartheid will admit it in public. Sometimes embarrassment does catch up. This seems to be one of your favorite tactics. You know very well what my exact words were. Here's the entire post: |Mark Houlsby (The Particularly Obtuse Twit) wrote: | Briarroot wrote: | Houlsby's obtuseness remains unchallenged. | snips rest of offensive nonsense | You've proved Mr. Bibuld right, if nothing else... | |If that were true it would be the first time he was ever |right about anything. I *already* have quoted Briarroot's *complete post* above. Yeah, Nick. This is known as sarcasm. I wasn't claiming to have heard every word Bibuld has uttered or written, in his entire life. Jerome Bibuld has been about universally well-known at RGCM and RGCP for his lifelong opposition to racism, including apartheid in South Africa. Soon after I began reading rec.games.chess.misc, I became aware that Mr. Bibuld had passionately opposed apartheid. Briarroot has been reading and writing at rec.games.chess.misc for much longer than I have. As I recall, Briarroot has written comments about Mr. Bibuld's views on racism. How could Briarroot have known what Mr. Bibuld believes about racism? Clearly, Briarroot must have been reading what Mr. Bibuld has been writing here about his opposition to racism, which include some posts describing Mr. Bibuld's opposition to apartheid. Now Briarroot seems to pretend that he was entirely ignorant of Jerome Bibuld's very well-known opposition to apartheid. --Nick |
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