My last USCF rating was 1954.. about 10 years ago. My last ICC was about
1720-ish about 12 months ago. The 1500 -1700 ICC rated players I've
encountered are much stronger that the typical USCF 1500-1700. (RSHaas)

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My last USCF rating was 1954.. about 10 years ago. My last ICC was about
1720-ish about 12 months ago. The 1500 -1700 ICC rated players I've
encountered are much stronger that the typical USCF 1500-1700. (RSHaas)

If I may ask, what are the usual time controls in the USCF?
I set my ICC games at 25 and 10 seconds per move, but I
usually win or lose with 5 min or so left on my clock.
Anything less than 25 flat min is too hasty for me.
Tom

Don Mihokovich wrote:

(RSHaas) wrote in message ...
My last USCF rating was 1954.. about 10 years ago. My last ICC was about
1720-ish about 12 months ago. The 1500 -1700 ICC rated players I've
encountered are much stronger that the typical USCF 1500-1700. (RSHaas)

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I don't doubt Mr. Haas' personal numbers, but in general, I have found
most ICC ratings to be 10-20% higher than USCF ratings. Of course,
most people are playing much faster games under much different
conditions on ICC, so the comparisons may not be fair.

KidDon

Indeed, indeed Mr. Kiddon - witness for example my recent experience on
icc. 50+ games to my credit, (standard 2 {12} - is there any other blitz
standard? ) give or take the odd 'abort' & fillialy suggested draw to a
paralysed patzer, only to be seized by a 1750 icc 'name' & shown the
business. Absolute chagrin, to be put down by such a 'weakie', however
I'm not easily phased & rattled off another 15 or so wins before closing
my guest session..

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If I played 100 standard games on ICC
and 100 in OTB tourneys, what would you
estimate the rating difference to be?


ICC keeps statistics about the ICC rating of its members and their OTB
rating (USCF, FIDE, etc.). Those are available on ICC - you can make
your own conclusions. If you can't find them, ask a helper.

That's a thought, but how many armchair chess players
are in USCF? The IM's and GM's hardly ever play standard
games on ICC, so you can't really draw a comparison there.
Tom

"michael adams" wrote in message
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Don Mihokovich wrote:

(RSHaas) wrote in message
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My last USCF rating was 1954.. about 10 years ago. My last ICC was
about
1720-ish about 12 months ago. The 1500 -1700 ICC rated players I've
encountered are much stronger that the typical USCF 1500-1700.
(RSHaas)

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I don't doubt Mr. Haas' personal numbers, but in general, I have found
most ICC ratings to be 10-20% higher than USCF ratings. Of course,
most people are playing much faster games under much different
conditions on ICC, so the comparisons may not be fair.

KidDon

Indeed, indeed Mr. Kiddon - witness for example my recent experience on
icc. 50+ games to my credit, (standard 2 {12} - is there any other blitz
standard? )
Yes, 2 {0}. The experts play this almost excusivley. When I play it, no
matter how fast I think I'm playing, I'm the one catastrophically low on
time. I've come to the conclusion that expert status with chess in general
is required before you can even attempt that time control and be
competitive.
Tom

Tom,

People ask me this on my chess talk radio show on www.chess.fm Mondays at 7-9PM Eastern.

I generally tell them that for the lower standard ratings, ICC standard averages about 150 rating points
below USCF. Of course both USCF Quick and ICC blitz are MUCH lower than their standard counterparts, and it
varies greatly from individual to individual depending upon lots of factors.

Regards,
NM Dan Heisman
www.danheisman.com