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From: illspam (NoMoreChess)
Date: 25/07/03 05:48 GMT Daylight Time
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Net Ettiquette states that you SHOULD snip all but the part to which you
are replying. IMO, that part was:
had you simply called Jerry Bibuld ... a ****ing moron.

The three dots "..." indicate that this is *not* a complete or accurate quote.
If a publisher was habitually to pull a similar stunt by quoting only *part*
of a review of a book on its dustjacket, like this:

"This book is...very good..."
Instead of what the reviewer actually wrote:
"This book is not very good at all."
...then that publisher would soon be out of business.

This is *exactly* what StanB did to Bourbaki.

Actually, it's what StanB did in snipping Bill Brock's post to Bourbaki.

Now NoMo is suggesting: "just a joke".
I leave it to the reader to decide.

Evidently, StanB intended to make a 'joke' aimed at Jerome Bibuld.
But StanB also objects to Bill Brock's comment that Tim Hanke has made
'racist remarks' here, so that part was snipped.

--Nick

"Nick" wrote in message
m...

Evidently, StanB intended to make a 'joke' aimed at Jerome Bibuld.
But StanB also objects to Bill Brock's comment that Tim Hanke has made
'racist remarks' here, so that part was snipped.

You're projecting. I automatically snip any such post that would require me
to concede such a point. I simply don't subscribe to it. I also state that
you are the racist here. You ignore the genocide and cannibalism of the
intraracism of Africans. Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his
disgust of you, as some racist remark.

StanB

"StanB" wrote in message ...
"Nick" wrote in message
m...
(snipped by StanB)
Evidently, StanB intended to make a 'joke' aimed at Jerome Bibuld.
But StanB also objects to Bill Brock's comment that Tim Hanke has made
'racist remarks' here, so that part was snipped.

You're projecting. I automatically snip any such post that would require me
to concede such a point. I simply don't subscribe to it.

Evidently, StanB has confirmed that he "simply (doesn't) subscribe" to
Bill Brock's "point" that Tim Hanke has made "racist remarks" (Bill Brock's
comment) here. So how could I be "projecting" about what StanB believes
and why he snipped Bill Brock's post to me?

I also state that you are the racist here. You ignore the genocide and
cannibalism of the intraracism of Africans.

"Lies is lies. Howsoever they come, they didn't ought to come, and they
come from the father of lies, and work round to the same."
--Charles Dickens (Great Expectations)

StanB has flagrantly *lied* again. I have *not* ignored the existence of
genocide in Africa. Here's the evidence to prove that StanB has *lied*:

In the thread, 'Zhang Zhong revisited' (26 June 2003), I responded *directly*
to StanB's baseless ad hominem attack on me by writing in part:

"StanB asks: 'In the last century where have most acts of genocide taken place?'

In the 20th (last) century, 'acts of genocide' have taken place in widely
separated regions around the world. 'Most acts of genocide' did not take
place at a solitary location. Many 'acts of genocide' took place in Europe
during the 1930-40s. Many 'acts of genocide' also took place in Asia.
But I suppose that StanB prefers to consider only 'acts of genocide' in
Africa.

In the past several centuries, there have been many 'acts of genocide' in
Africa, for which Europeans, Arabs, and Africans themselves all have been
responsible. It's been estimated that the European slave trade captured
10-15 million Africans (and more were killed while attempting to escape it).
The European rubber trade tended to treat African workers with close to
genocidal cruelty. Given his emphasis on the 'place' of 'acts of genocide',
StanB seems to imply that if those acts took place in Africa, then the guilty
must all be indigenous Africans. But that conclusion is only partially true.

Of course, in 1994 the ruling Hutus were mainly responsible for the genocide of
Tutsis in Rwanda. (I knew a Rwandan academic whose entire family was murdered.)
Yet blame also should be distributed among many onlookers outside Rwanda.

'...That was the genocide in Rwanda in 1994, in which, according to one
calculation...the daily killing rate was five times that of the Nazi death
camps 50 years earlier.

It is now well known that the UN, thanks to the reports of the commander of
its tiny force in Rwanda, Romeo Dallaire, had received *ample warning* that
a programme of butchery was planned. So, therefore, had the countries on the
UN Security Council. Yet for the first crucial weeks, as hundreds of thousands
of people were hacked to death, General Dallaire was *ignored*. Members of
the Clinton administration would *not* even dare to describe the slaughter as
*genocide*, for fear that would *oblige* them, under the 1949 genocide
convention, to *take action*. Only France sent troops--late and for dubious
reasons of geopolitical rivalry, though they certainly saved some lives. Apart
from General Dallaire and a contingent of Ghanaian peacekeepers, *no one*,
including Mr Annan, as he himself as bravely admitted, comes well out of the
Rwandan affair.'

--The Economist (May 13-19, 2000, p. 4, Review of Books section)"

Here's a link to my complete post in *direct response to StanB*:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?T53942665

What will StanB lie about next?

Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his disgust of you, as some
racist remark.
StanB

As I recall, StanB already has quite a record of misspelling words in English.
Now StanB has added misspelling words in Swahili, such as "mizunge" (sic), to
his favourite anti-intellectual opening repetoire.

"He was a falsehood done in flesh and blood."
--Mark Twain (The Gilded Age)

--Nick

Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his disgust of you, as some
racist remark.
StanB


As I recall, StanB already has quite a record of misspelling words in
English.
Now StanB has added misspelling words in Swahili, such as "mizunge" (sic), to
his favourite anti-intellectual opening repetoire.



Mr. petty earns "Brownie points" with the Spelling Police, but he probably
doesn't realize he is still a very distant third -- behind Edward Winter and
Larry Parr -- two men whose backs are sore from patting themselves there.




I just happenned to notice (I have not been searching, like some others here)
that Nick's "whereabouts" are quite clearly revealed above: From:


The "uk" obviously stands for the United Kingdom. Was this right in front
of Stan's nose, all this time?




"Lies is lies. Howsoever they come, they didn't ought to come


Truer wurds was never spoke!




So how could I be "projecting" about what StanB believes
and why he snipped Bill Brock's post to me?


Simple. You see what you *want* to see, and this relates directly to *you,*
not him.

If you're really interested in what Stan Booz thinks about something, just
ask him -- straight out. That would be the honest approach.

NoMoreChess wrote:

I just happenned to notice (I have not been searching, like some others here)
that Nick's "whereabouts" are quite clearly revealed above: From:


The "uk" obviously stands for the United Kingdom. Was this right in front
of Stan's nose, all this time?

The "From" header can be changed easily by the sender,
just by typing something into a preferences box. It's
not an indication of where the post originated, and
Nick has changed this address several times. Yahoo's
web-mail service can be accessed from anywhere.

Using the "View Source" option of my news reader I
have seen Nick's posts originate from different news
servers including Stanford university. None of this
is any indication of where Nick is originally from.
(not that it matters)

"Nick" wrote in message
om...

Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his disgust of you, as some
racist remark.

As I recall, StanB already has quite a record of misspelling words in
English.
Now StanB has added misspelling words in Swahili, such as "mizunge" (sic),
to
his favourite anti-intellectual opening repetoire.

That was the spelling given by a CBS report for an African slang word which
translates to "whitey". The fact that Nick didn't know what it means lends
credence to the notion that he is a fraud.

StanB

"I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
I see bad times today."

and,

"Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye."

--J.C. Fogerty

"StanB" wrote in message ...
"Nick" wrote in message
om...

Of course, StanB completely snipped my proof that he has *lied* again about me.
Please read all that evidence in my earlier post in this thread.

Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his disgust of you, as some
racist remark.

As I recall, StanB already has quite a record of misspelling words in
English. Now StanB has added misspelling words in Swahili, such as
"mizunge" (sic), to his favourite anti-intellectual opening repetoire.

That was the spelling given by a CBS report for an African slang word which
translates to "whitey". The fact that Nick didn't know what it means lends
credence to the notion that he is a fraud.
StanB

I don't know what StanB claims to have seen or heard from CBS. And I
don't know anything about the context or the accuracy of that "CBS report".
A Google search for "mizunge" and "CBS" found nothing at all about it.
Can StanB cite a specific reference for his "CBS report"?

But I do know that, in fact, "mzungu" (not "mizunge") is a Swahili word for
a foreigner (not necessarily a European). An African American tourist may
be regarded as a "mzungu" in Kenya or Tanzania.

--Nick

illspam (NoMoreChess) wrote in message ...
StanB wrote:
Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his disgust of you, as some
racist remark.
StanB

Nick wrote:
As I recall, StanB already has quite a record of misspelling words in
English. Now StanB has added misspelling words in Swahili, such as
as "mizunge" (sic), to his favourite anti-intellectual opening repetoire.

Mr. petty earns "Brownie points" with the Spelling Police, but he probably
doesn't realize he is still a very distant third -- behind Edward Winter and
Larry Parr -- two men whose backs are sore from patting themselves there.

On the contrary, I am neither surprised nor especially disturbed any more to
encounter frequent errors in English spelling, grammar, and usage. And I
usually don't trouble myself to correct them unless I am being paid to do it.
For instance, I have not corrected any of NoMoreChess's previous errors in
spelling. In this case, however, Stan Booz was making a point of insisting
(as I recall, he had done it at least twice) on misspelling a word in Swahili,
which is evidently a language of which he has no real knowledge, and his
ignorance there was beginning to irritate me again.

So how could I be "projecting" about what StanB believes and why he snipped
Bill Brock's post to me?

Simple. You see what you *want* to see, and this relates directly to *you,*
not him.

NoMoreChess's inane comment "relates directly" to his deficiencies in reading.
In fact, StanB wrote about why he had snipped Bill Brock's post to me, and what
StanB wrote was in complete accord with what I had thought about why he did it.
So there was no "projection" on my part.

If you're really interested in what Stan Booz thinks about something, just
ask him -- straight out. That would be the honest approach.

In his "reponse" to my post, NoMoreChess ignored all the direct evidence that
I cited to prove that Stan Booz has *lied* about me. Here's a link to it:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V27416E75

"A fool can do an immense deal of mischief with the tail-end of a truth."
--William Simms (The Scout)

--Nick

..
Nick-the-spellchecker has once again reminded us that he has earned
Brownie-points with the Spelling Police, though still trailing a distant third
-- behind all-star leaders, Edward Winter and Larry Parr.

To put these petty spelling corrections of his (of offhand newsgroup
postings) into somewhat better perspective, I will note that today, while I was
reading a major newspaper published on dead-tree media for *tens of thousands*
to read, I saw one article where whole words had been ommitted, and a crucial
comma had been misplaced -- thereby changing the meaning of an entire sentence
so as to make the entire editorial piece fall apart! Of course, an astute
reader can simply figure out the correct, intended meanings by looking at the
context, but this showed that there had been no real proofreading prior to
publication.

I also spotted several such crude errors in various, sizeable advertisements,
which no doubt cost those companies a pretty penny.
Here, it would seem that the newspaper had blundered, for such advertizing is
its primary source of profit.

To my mind, this just goes to show that there is a terrible shortage of
decent spell-checkers in the real world, and a corresponding overabundance on
these chess newsgroups, where their difficult, hard work is little appreciated,
and not even compensated!



Now StanB has added misspelling words in Swahili, such as
as "mizunge" (sic),


Consider the possibilities -- how much might a large coproration pay for the
ability to spell-check in, not one, but *multiple* languages? What about the
London paper, or the New York Times -- could Nick not earn a fortune
translating each of these into their respective versions of English, or even
into French or German?




As I recall, StanB already has quite a record of misspelling words in
English.


Let me see. If I remember correctly, he has writ "pigin" in place of
"pidgeon," and "mizunge" --- wait a second, are we getting a bit far away from
the POINT of Stans' post? Oh, yes. But then, that was the plan, wasn't it,
Mr. petty spell-checker? Hahahaha!




StanB wrote:
Instead you twist whatever mizunge says in his disgust of you, as some
racist remark.


We have already seen other examples where "Nick-the-liar" has twisted things
to suit his purpose, as clearly demonstrated by Briarroot. Even so, his
spell-checking abilities (including Swahili!) should never be
misunderestimated.
One can't get very far in this country without a perfectly grasp of English,
as Dubya has always demonstrified in his everyday clarificationals of remarks
he may or may not have intendid as jokes, but which are always targitted by his
critiks, who envy and hate him for being so grate a president. "Every grate
man has his de-tractors!" - John Deere