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-remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message ...
From: illspam (NoMoreChess) Date: 29/07/03 03:49 GMT Daylight Time Message-id: (snipped) While my "help" may be quite unnecessary for that, I will point out that my quote of Nick's statement in no way referred to only Stan Booz and Briarroot, as Mr. Lickspittle has it. Obviously, this *distortion* is the result of a lack of reading skill by Dorkus, who is in a tizzy over his hero having been hoist on his own petard. Dear Mr. Houlsby, Although occasionally you have misread me, in my authoritative judgement as the writer, you consistently read my posts more honestly, accurately, and insightfully than NoMoreChess, as evident by contrasting some of his posts and yours about mine. BTW, it was Nick who asserted that *all* the critics and (American) political activists here were ganging up on him unfairly because he was an "outsider," and it was also Nick who explained that they did this because they were all white, flag-waving, psuedo-patriotic American racists. That's another distortion by NoMoreChess; I made no such assertion. My statement about StanB and "his *fellow* American political activists here" was intended to refer *only* to a few writers here who have expressed their *fellowship* (or agreement) with StanB's jingoistic or racist comments: the other members of his evident political clique are Tim Hanke and "Briarroot". I don't agree. Not entirely, that is. A few of Nick's critics do not fit that mold. Some of them were not motivated by Nick's alleged status as an "outsider," and in fact, have no interest in where he is from. They simply found fault with something he wrote, and got carelessly tossed into a bucket with the others by Nick, who mislabelled them all the same. Can NoMoreChess name any of these alleged critics of mine (apart from Tim Hanke, Stan Booz, and "Briarroot") and cite evidence that I have "mislabelled them all the same"? Who are they? Michael Adams on occasion, perhaps? He's an Aussie, and I know that he could not be a jingoistic American. Mark Houlsby wrote: Which of these people is *not* caucasian? I wouldn't know. Do you track such things for Nick? May I suggest some additional tracking questions: (snipped) Don't worry, Nick and his lickspittle will not use this info for any purpose other than their ad hominem attacks here on these newsgroups. Give an example of one of these, if you please. May silence be considered evidence? Ok then, name *any* of Bourbaki's non-White vociferous vituperative critics. May silence be considered evidence? 'He is no fool, but his sense consists chiefly in holding his tongue.' --from 'Memoirs of an Oxford Scholar' (1756) --Nick |
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From: (Nick)
Date: 26/08/03 23:20 GMT Daylight Time Message-id: -remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message ... From: illspam (NoMoreChess) Date: 29/07/03 03:49 GMT Daylight Time Message-id: (snipped) While my "help" may be quite unnecessary for that, I will point out that my quote of Nick's statement in no way referred to only Stan Booz and Briarroot, as Mr. Lickspittle has it. Obviously, this *distortion* is the result of a lack of reading skill by Dorkus, who is in a tizzy over his hero having been hoist on his own petard. Dear Mr. Houlsby, Although occasionally you have misread me, in my authoritative judgement as the writer, you consistently read my posts more honestly, accurately, and insightfully than NoMoreChess, as evident by contrasting some of his posts and yours about mine. Not only have I misread you occasionally, I have sometimes read you accurately, but (owing chiefly to the scope of my ignorance, which is regrettably considerable) completely failed to avoid *misinterpreting* what you have written, particularly with respect to those subjects about which you know more than I do.... BTW, it was Nick who asserted that *all* the critics and (American) political activists here were ganging up on him unfairly because he was an "outsider," and it was also Nick who explained that they did this because they were all white, flag-waving, psuedo-patriotic American racists. That's another distortion by NoMoreChess; I made no such assertion. My statement about StanB and "his *fellow* American political activists here" was intended to refer *only* to a few writers here who have expressed their *fellowship* (or agreement) with StanB's jingoistic or racist comments: the other members of his evident political clique are Tim Hanke and "Briarroot". I don't agree. Not entirely, that is. A few of Nick's critics do not fit that mold. Some of them were not motivated by Nick's alleged status as an "outsider," and in fact, have no interest in where he is from. They simply found fault with something he wrote, and got carelessly tossed into a bucket with the others by Nick, who mislabelled them all the same. Can NoMoreChess name any of these alleged critics of mine (apart from Tim Hanke, Stan Booz, and "Briarroot") and cite evidence that I have "mislabelled them all the same"? Who are they? Michael Adams on occasion, perhaps? He's an Aussie, and I know that he could not be a jingoistic American. Mark Houlsby wrote: Which of these people is *not* caucasian? I wouldn't know. Do you track such things for Nick? May I suggest some additional tracking questions: (snipped) Don't worry, Nick and his lickspittle will not use this info for any purpose other than their ad hominem attacks here on these newsgroups. Give an example of one of these, if you please. May silence be considered evidence? Ok then, name *any* of Bourbaki's non-White vociferous vituperative critics. May silence be considered evidence? 'He is no fool, but his sense consists chiefly in holding his tongue.' I tried that once, but it made my eyes water.... Mark |
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