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Why does chess have strong links to Russia?



 
 
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Old July 29th 03, 03:23 PM
Stoneskin
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As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin so I
am wondering how in it's history it made such an impact in Russia to the
extent that anyone not familiar would of thought it had originated
there.

Are there any good links to chess history?
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Old July 29th 03, 03:43 PM
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Stoneskin wrote

As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin


Wasn't that 6th century India?



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Old July 29th 03, 03:58 PM
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CeeBee left a note on my windscreen which said:

As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin


Wasn't that 6th century India?


I've been googling for a decent chess history site but yet to no avail.
If it is currently thought to be Indian rather than Chinese in origin
then I stand corrected.

But what I'm really insterested in is how and why Chess is so strongly
related to Russia nowadays.
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Old July 29th 03, 04:14 PM
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"Stoneskin" wrote ...

I've been googling for a decent chess history site but yet to no avail.
If it is currently thought to be Indian rather than Chinese in origin
then I stand corrected.


H.J.R. Murray wrote the standard reference, "History of Chess." Read about
it at Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...in-20/002-0396
955-3127262.

One amateur reviewer wrote on Amazon.com:

"This book is a reprint of Murrays monumental work, first published in 1913.
Murray is a scientist, and his writing shows this: we have discussions about
legibility of manuscripts, theories of the spreading of chess, etc.
"What we find in all this is a thorough and precise account of how chess
came into existence, and has spread over the world. Where many books on the
history of chess are best in describing the modern history, this book is
best in telling about the roots. Also, we find hunderds of historic chess
puzzles. If you really want to know how the origins of the best game there
is are, then read this book."

But what I'm really insterested in is how and why Chess is so strongly
related to Russia nowadays.


I don't know, but chess has been firmly embedded in Russian culture for a
long time. Tolstoy once wrote to his daughter, "Every young woman should
know how to play chess."

Tim Hanke


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Old July 29th 03, 06:05 PM
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Stoneskin wrote in message . ..
CeeBee left a note on my windscreen which said:

As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin


Wasn't that 6th century India?


I've been googling for a decent chess history site but yet to no avail.
If it is currently thought to be Indian rather than Chinese in origin
then I stand corrected.

But what I'm really insterested in is how and why Chess is so strongly
related to Russia nowadays.


Just winging it he Chess has enjoyed popularity in Northern
European countries in particular (Russia, Iceland, etc.) because of
the long winter nights? Cooped up and freezing outside, nothing like a
good game of chess!

Insofar as the USSR goes, they cultivated chess among their "citizens"
as a means of enhancing Soviet prestige and proof of
Socialist/Communist superiority.
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Old July 29th 03, 09:02 PM
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I believe that V. Lenin, wishing to show the superiority of communism,
decreed that Soviet chess would be State supported.
Chess thus became a national game and sport.

Paolo

"Stoneskin" wrote in message
...
As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin so I
am wondering how in it's history it made such an impact in Russia to the
extent that anyone not familiar would of thought it had originated
there.

Are there any good links to chess history?
--

Stoneskin

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Old July 30th 03, 07:05 AM
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Default Why does chess have strong links to Russia?

Stoneskin wrote:

CeeBee left a note on my windscreen which said:

As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin


Wasn't that 6th century India?


I've been googling for a decent chess history site but yet to no avail.
If it is currently thought to be Indian rather than Chinese in origin
then I stand corrected.

But what I'm really insterested in is how and why Chess is so strongly
related to Russia nowadays.
--

Stoneskin

[Insert sig here]


It was a dark & stormy nicht..

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Old July 30th 03, 09:40 AM
Stoneskin
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Liina Vark left a note on my windscreen which said:

The very best chess history site that I have found is Sarah's
Serendipitious Chess Page at
http://www.angelfire.com/games/SBChess/frontpage.html.

A lot on chess history here boy.

And the very best Morphy information site on the web.

Highly recommended.


Excellent reading - thanks.
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Stoneskin

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Old July 30th 03, 12:50 PM
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Default Why does chess have strong links to Russia?

Mainly political reasons which at the dawn of Soviet era turned it into
cultural habit. The game is cheap and intellectual and a good symbol for
communism.

Stoneskin wrote:

As per header. I know the game is thought to be Chinese in origin so I
am wondering how in it's history it made such an impact in Russia to the
extent that anyone not familiar would of thought it had originated
there.

Are there any good links to chess history?


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Old July 30th 03, 01:06 PM
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
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"PaoloTCS"
wrote in message ...

I believe that V. Lenin, wishing
to show the superiority of communism,
decreed that Soviet chess would be State supported.
Chess thus became a national game and sport.

Paolo


Believing is irrelevant. Lenin himself was a strong
chess player. But he was against chess. Chess took
off in Soviet Union as a government and party supported
activity only after Lenin's death..

Wlod
 




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