Refuting at the board Botvinnik's prepared line and beating Trifunovic who was
using prepared analysis given to him by the Russians. (RSHaas)

Refuting at the board Botvinnik's prepared line
I would vote for that game vs Botvinnik if Fischer would have won.Still amazing
that he refuted a prepared line against the Al Mighty Botvinnik.

One might argue that Fischers greatest accoplishment was actually PLAYING the
World Champioship Match

What are the opinions about which of Fischer's many brilliant victories is
the greatest?


The Game of the Century against Donald Byrne. I rememberplaying it out
when I was 10 years old and being completely mystified as to why any
of those moves should work. Some thirty years later I can only think
of a couple of games that still are capable of producing such awe.
DeRonde Kamstra, Polugaevsky Nezhmetdinov and Kasparov Topalov.

"Joshua B. Lilly" wrote in message news:3f2672b6$1_1@newsfeed...
Alan O' Brien wrote:
"no one could beat Tigran - except Robert"

Somebody should go back in time and tell Spassky that, he didn`t seem to be
aware of this rule.

Dear Mr. Lilly,

Sometimes ignorance can become a decisive advantage: it helps when one does
not know that one's opponent is invincible.

'Mr. Kremlin was distinguished for ignorance, for he had only one idea--and
that was wrong.'
--Benjamin Disraeli (Sybil)

--Nick

"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:x4GVa.15019$o%2.7644@sccrnsc02...
"Nick" wrote in message
om...
"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message
news:ZtCVa.13338$o%2.6869@sccrnsc02...
Fissure's greatest accomplishment?
Saving us all from the hype and hoopla that would undoubtedly surround
a child raised by a raving lunatic with unrealistic expectations of
success in a largely unpopular sport.
In short: Not reproducing.

You might be disappointed to discover that Bobby Fischer has not
accomplished what you believe. According to Rene Chun in the article,
"Bobby Fischer's Pathetic Endgame" ("The Atlantic Monthly", December 2002):

"For one thing, he has a girlfriend--Justine, a twenty-two-year-old
Chinese-Filipina living in Manila, who couldn't care less about chess and
has no intention of writing a tell-all memoir. And Fischer is now a
parent: Justine gave birth to a baby girl in 2000."

On the other hand, you might feel better by knowing that Fischer's
daughter is being brought up essentially only by her mother (who's
evidently not a "raving lunatic"), so the daughter seems on the way to
experiencing a comparatively "normal childhood".

"Fischer is a far cry from being a doting papa. According to one source,
he 'regularly sends money to his girlfriend and child' but visits them
only 'once every two months'."
--Rene Chun (from "Bobby Fischer's Pathetic Endgame")

Whether or not his daughter should be better off if Bobby Fischer were to
take a greater interest in her life is not for an outsider like me to say.

Thank you for that tidbit of information, Nick. I did not know that.

Mr. Nemmers,

That's what I assumed: I have no reason to believe that you, unlike some other
writers here, would deliberately write false statements about other people.

Shows how much I keep up on the latest news regarding the former world chess
champion.

I also don't particularly follow the news about Bobby Fischer's personal life.
I don't regard what Fischer has been doing lately as particularly interesting.

Here's some of what I think of Bobby Fischer now:

1) Fischer was a great chess-player; now he has become a retired chess-player.
2) Fischer seems to be a quite disturbed human being, who has made some public
statements of which I strongly disapprove. Given my lack of knowledge of
his real conditions, I am not certain of how much moral responsibility
should be attributed to Fischer for having made those statements.
3) I hope that Fischer will be healthy enough to take care of his family
responsibilities, particularly to his daughter, whenever he's needed.
4) After Fischer dies, he will be long remembered for his chess games and
nothing much else of lasting significance.

I will, however, venture to guess that his daughter would be much better off
if daddy dearest stayed out of her life for good. Just my opinion, of
course.

To his credit, evidently, Bobby Fischer has been providing financial support
regularly to his family. If Fischer were bound to stay completely out of his
daughter's life, then what incentive, beyond legal coercion, would he have
to continue that support? If Fischer is fulfilling at least his financial
responsibilities as a father and is not abusive toward his family, then how
could he be denied the right to maintain some contact with his daughter?

Of course, I am not a Manila social worker who has been assigned to the case
of Bobby Fischer's daughter. And I hope that this thread does not become a
prolonged discussion about any differences among "family values".

'A little management is necessary in all families.'
--William Makepeace Thackeray (Lovel the Widower)

--Nick

Man...

You guys are going to CHESS HELL talking about Fischer's Daughter.

You guys should know better...

I mean who are you to judge?

What is YOUR rating?

When Fischer reads this...he's going to be mad boy!

..

Eric Hicks writes:

Man...

You guys are going to CHESS HELL

This isn't it?

Oh, you mean rec.games.chess.politics.


William Hyde
EOS Department
Duke University

"Looney" writes:

wrote in message
...
Eric Hicks writes:

Man...

You guys are going to CHESS HELL

This isn't it?

Oh, you mean rec.games.chess.politics.

No, he means a tournament in which you are paired with Sam Sloan every round

I've never heard that Sam is an unpleasant opponent over
the board (though maybe this comment will bring angry
contradictory messages).


playing the Damn Iano Defense...

I'm generally happy to see opponents play weak moves.
But I'm not so happy when I lose to those weak moves.


Between rounds you play speed games with Sam's "irregular" wife.

If she's at least 1900 I don't care who she's married to.


Larry Parr will write the tournament recap for you.

As long as my probable loss to Sam in the Damiano
isn't featured, this is OK.


The USCF will use your personal bank account to manage their finances.

Nothing in my account. Or more exactly, there won't be.

Garry Kasparov will refuse to finish your simul game

I'll fool him by losing before he notices I'm over 2000.


That's about it...

Oh, and Bobby Fischer is your father... Or is it the other way around?

*Now* you're scaring me. And I'm not sure which fate is
worse.


William Hyde
EOS Department
Duke University

(Nick) wrote in message . com...
1) Fischer was a great chess-player; now he has become a retired
chess-player.

Rene Chun wrote the following in The Atlantic Monthly, April 2003
issue:

"By the standard of longevity alone, an argument could be made for
Garry Kasparov's being the greatest chess player ever. But without
Bobby Fischer there would be no million-dollar purses or televised
matches. And victory in the 1972 world-championship match alone earns
Fischer the title "greatest." This is not purely an American bias.
When the international magazine Chess Informant asked its readers to
pick the best chess player of the twentieth century, Robert James
Fischer came out on top. Even Kasparov has called him "the greatest
world champion."

Rene Chun wrote a lot of inaccuracies in "Bobby Fischer's Pathetic
Endgame," December Atlantic. Chun admitted the errors. Read more about
them here, including the above statement in the April 2003 Atlantic:

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/04/letters.htm