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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:18:35 GMT, Dr. Robert Faurisson
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What are the opinions about which of Fischer's many brilliant victories
is
the greatest?

of course something like this is 100% subjective. I always thought the
grunfeld against robert burn (not the century game against his brother;
also a grunfeld) was very special. one of my favorite games.

his "greatest achievement" must be winning the match against spassky, so
several games from that match qualify. game 3, a benoni, was his first
ever win against spassky, and was brilliant. game 6, a QGD, of course.
game 13... take your pick.

13-0 in '62 was freaky. +16 in the candidates matches, or the 20 wins
in a row in that same era. that's stuff you'll never see again.

Beating Bisguire 13 times in a row (with no draws in between) is pretty
impressive as well!

I think his greatest accomplishment is to become world champion.
But I think the 11-0 victory in the US championships is a fine record that
will stand for a loooooong time and whatever happens he will always be the
first to do it.

As for games, I like his win against Tal (my favourite player) in Bled in
1961
I like his sneaky mate against Miagmasuren in 1967 which his opponent didn't
see until it was too late, the quiet Bg2 sets the whole thing up. See Bobby
Fischers outrageous moves by Bruce Pandolfini for more details.
I also like the game of the century against Byrne. One description of the
game said "Byrne took the queen and went on to become on of the games
immortal losers"
which is a nice, backhanded tribute. No one would refuse to be on the losing
end of a fischer brilliancy!

"Dr. Robert Faurisson" wrote in
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What are the opinions about which of Fischer's many brilliant victories is
the greatest?

"Dr. Robert Faurisson" wrote in
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What are the opinions about which of Fischer's many brilliant victories is
the greatest?

Fissure's greatest accomplishment?

Saving us all from the hype and hoopla that would undoubtedly surround a
child raised by a raving lunatic with unrealistic expectations of success in
a largely unpopular sport.

In short: Not reproducing.

MN

"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:ZtCVa.13338$o%2.6869@sccrnsc02...
Fissure's greatest accomplishment?
Saving us all from the hype and hoopla that would undoubtedly surround a
child raised by a raving lunatic with unrealistic expectations of success in
a largely unpopular sport.
In short: Not reproducing.

Mr. Nemmers,

You might be disappointed to discover that Bobby Fischer has not accomplished
what you believe. According to Rene Chun in the article, "Bobby Fischer's
Pathetic Endgame" ("The Atlantic Monthly", December 2002):

"For one thing, he has a girlfriend--Justine, a twenty-two-year-old
Chinese-Filipina living in Manila, who couldn't care less about chess and
has no intention of writing a tell-all memoir. And Fischer is now a parent:
Justine gave birth to a baby girl in 2000."

On the other hand, you might feel better by knowing that Fischer's daughter is
being brought up essentially only by her mother (who's evidently not a "raving
lunatic"), so the daughter seems on the way to experiencing a comparatively
"normal childhood".

"Fischer is a far cry from being a doting papa. According to one source,
he 'regularly sends money to his girlfriend and child' but visits them only
'once every two months'."
--Rene Chun (from "Bobby Fischer's Pathetic Endgame")

Whether or not his daughter should be better off if Bobby Fischer were to
take a greater interest in her life is not for an outsider like me to say.

--Nick

Beating Petrosian 3-1 in USSR vs The Rest Of The World match...Going 12-0 vs
Taimanov and Larsen..Becoming a GM at such a young age(back in the day there
was only a handful of Grandmasters and no Chessbase)We should also mention "My
60 Memorable Games" as a great achievement

"Nick" wrote in message
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"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message
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Fissure's greatest accomplishment?
Saving us all from the hype and hoopla that would undoubtedly surround a
child raised by a raving lunatic with unrealistic expectations of
success in
a largely unpopular sport.
In short: Not reproducing.

Mr. Nemmers,

You might be disappointed to discover that Bobby Fischer has not
accomplished
what you believe. According to Rene Chun in the article, "Bobby Fischer's
Pathetic Endgame" ("The Atlantic Monthly", December 2002):

"For one thing, he has a girlfriend--Justine, a twenty-two-year-old
Chinese-Filipina living in Manila, who couldn't care less about chess and
has no intention of writing a tell-all memoir. And Fischer is now a
parent:
Justine gave birth to a baby girl in 2000."

On the other hand, you might feel better by knowing that Fischer's
daughter is
being brought up essentially only by her mother (who's evidently not a
"raving
lunatic"), so the daughter seems on the way to experiencing a
comparatively
"normal childhood".

"Fischer is a far cry from being a doting papa. According to one source,
he 'regularly sends money to his girlfriend and child' but visits them
only
'once every two months'."
--Rene Chun (from "Bobby Fischer's Pathetic Endgame")

Whether or not his daughter should be better off if Bobby Fischer were to
take a greater interest in her life is not for an outsider like me to say.

--Nick

Thank you for that tidbit of information, Nick. I did not know that. Shows
how much I keep up on the latest news regarding the former world chess
champion.

I will, however, venture to guess that his daughter would be much better off
if daddy dearest stayed out of her life for good. Just my opinion, of
course.

Regards,

Matt

(Etj718) wrote in message ...
Winning the Interzonals by 3.5 points is very impressive and then he pitched
2 shutouts vs World Title contenders

Yes, winning matches by the scores of 6-0 against GM Mark Taimanov and
GM Bent Larsen in 1971 was quite impressive, even though Bobby Fischer
needed good luck in a few games to be able to complete the 'shutouts'.

With all due respect to GM Taimanov, however, he was not regarded as a
probable contender to qualify for the 1972 world championship match.

--Nick

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:26:13 GMT, Dr. Robert Faurisson
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Beating Bisguire 13 times in a row (with no draws in between) is pretty
impressive as well!

ayup. their first game together was a win (on time!) for art, and
i think the 2nd game was a draw, and then yes, 13 consecutive wins.
in most of them, art would achieve good possitions, only to lose to a
brilliant stroke by fischer time and time again.

Bisguier's win against Fischer was not on time -- Fischer either had one or
zero losses on time in his entire career -- but a nice positional crush
capped off with a queen sac:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1956.??.??"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Bisguier, Arthur USA GM"]
[Black "Fischer, Robert J"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E78"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 O-O 6. Nf3 c5 7. Be2 cxd4
8. Nxd4 Nc6 9. Nc2 Bd7 10. O-O Rc8 11. Be3 Na5 12. b3 a6 13. e5 dxe5 14.
fxe5
Ne8 15. Nd5 Rc6 16. Nd4 Rc8 17. Nc2 Rc6 18. Ncb4 Re6 19. Bg4 Rxe5 20. Bb6
Qc8
21. Bxd7 Qxd7 22. Bxa5 e6 23. Nd3 Rh5 24. N3f4 Rf5 25. Bb4 exd5 26. Bxf8
Bxa1
27. Qxa1 Kxf8 28. Qh8+ Ke7 29. Re1+ Kd8 30. Nxd5 Qc6 31. Qf8 Qd7 32. Rd1 Rf6
33. Qxe8+ 1-0

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:18:35 GMT, Dr. Robert Faurisson
wrote:
What are the opinions about which of Fischer's many brilliant victories
is
the greatest?

of course something like this is 100% subjective. I always thought the
grunfeld against robert burn (not the century game against his brother;
also a grunfeld) was very special. one of my favorite games.

I second your vote on the Robert Byrne game, which is accompanied by the
nice story that the people following the game in a nearby room, with moves
relayed by runners, were told by the GM commentator that Fischer was losing
at the very moment that Byrne was resigning.

For the record, Fischer wins included in "The World's Greatest Chess Games"
were D.Byrne-BF 1956, R. Byrne-BF 1963/4, BF-Panno Buenos Aires 1970,
BF-Larsen, Match game 1, Denver 1971, BF-Petrosian Match game 7 Buenos Aires
1971, BF-Spassky, Game 6 1972, and BF-Spassky, Game 1 1992.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:08:14 GMT, "Robert Musicant"
wrote:

Fischer either had one or zero losses on time in his entire career

He lost on time to Pupols in his first US Junior.