On 24 Aug 2003 19:47:12 -0500, Bruce Draney wrote:

Miriling wrote:

In a story that appeared Sunday, Aug. 24, in the Miami Herald, writer Charles
Savage reports from Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba, that detainees there are
'very good at chess.' They play a lot of games. Quoting a reservist stationed
there, he writes: "One of their favorites is chess. They're very, very, very
good at chess. They just picked it up here, but they can beat most of the MPs
[military police] now."

George Mirijanian

Perhaps they can take advantage and join USCF for 1/4th the price that
normal US chess players can. If they were blind and prisoners, we could
probably count them twice.

Best Regards,

Bruce

Interesting legal question. There is a USCF Prison membership and
these are prisoners. Is the Guantanamo Naval Base on US Soil, like
Guam is? Are there restrictions on prison membership? Also, as I
understand it, the Guantanamo prisoners are being held incognito. We
are not allowed to know their names. If we want to give them a prison
membership, how can we do it?

I bet that if I try I can find people willing to donate the money to
provide their best players with prison memberships.

Sam Sloan

(Sam Sloan) writes:
Interesting legal question. There is a USCF Prison membership and
these are prisoners. Is the Guantanamo Naval Base on US Soil, like
Guam is?

No, it is in Cuba. They're using that excuse to do stuff to the
prisoners that is illegal in the US.

Nah , they just dont have cable telephone nor AC which in the USA jail
their lawyers would be demanding

"Tom E." wrote in message
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"Paul Rubin" wrote in message
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(Sam Sloan) writes:
Interesting legal question. There is a USCF Prison membership and
these are prisoners. Is the Guantanamo Naval Base on US Soil, like
Guam is?

No, it is in Cuba. They're using that excuse to do stuff to the
prisoners that is illegal in the US.

What's your point? You don't think we're utilizing the iron
maiden and the stretch wheel do you?
Tom

Sam Sloan wrote:

On 24 Aug 2003 19:47:12 -0500, Bruce Draney wrote:

Miriling wrote:

In a story that appeared Sunday, Aug. 24, in the Miami Herald, writer Charles
Savage reports from Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba, that detainees there are
'very good at chess.' They play a lot of games. Quoting a reservist stationed
there, he writes: "One of their favorites is chess. They're very, very, very
good at chess. They just picked it up here, but they can beat most of the MPs
[military police] now."

George Mirijanian

Perhaps they can take advantage and join USCF for 1/4th the price that
normal US chess players can. If they were blind and prisoners, we could
probably count them twice.

Best Regards,

Bruce

Interesting legal question. There is a USCF Prison membership and
these are prisoners. Is the Guantanamo Naval Base on US Soil, like
Guam is? Are there restrictions on prison membership? Also, as I
understand it, the Guantanamo prisoners are being held incognito. We
are not allowed to know their names. If we want to give them a prison
membership, how can we do it?

I bet that if I try I can find people willing to donate the money to
provide their best players with prison memberships.

Sam Sloan

Good..

Paul Rubin wrote in message ...
(Sam Sloan) writes:
Interesting legal question. There is a USCF Prison membership and
these are prisoners. Is the Guantanamo Naval Base on US Soil, like
Guam is?

No, it is in Cuba. They're using that excuse to do stuff to the
prisoners that is illegal in the US.

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It is Cuban soil, leased to the U.S. for @ $4,000 per year under a
decades old, pre-Castro lease that supposedly cannot be terminated
without the consent of both parties.

KidDon

I would! The more time they spend on chess, the less time they spend on
other less worthwhile projects (to use political correct terms). So, where
do I send in my dontation?



"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message
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"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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SNIP

If we want to give them a prison
membership, how can we do it?

I bet that if I try I can find people willing to donate the money to
provide their best players with prison memberships.

Sam Sloan

Why would anyone WANT to??? These people are prisoners and suspected
terrorists! Ridiculous! These people come over here to help destroy our
country and you want to REWARD them??

You're a moron, Sloan, but I had no idea your insanity went so deep so as
to
propose we try to make life better for those who want to kill us.

MN

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I would! The more time they spend on chess, the less time they spend on
other less worthwhile projects (to use political correct terms). So, where
do I send in my dontation?


Detonation, he probably meant. More specifically, detonators, caps, C-4,
wiring, etc., etc.



Guantanamo Bay Top-Secret Prison Camp
Munitions Section
Attention: bombmakers/"detainees"
[top-secret street address *classified*]
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba ***** [classified zip code ommitted]



Packing instructions: carefully wrap all materials in several layers of Chess
Life magazines, layering Schiller books on all sides and underneath, and
placing real chessbooks on the top -- in case the guards get curious. Thanks
for your support!


PS: could also use a few (working) BHB clocks, to "time our moves."

"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:d0g2b.251076$YN5.171900@sccrnsc01...
"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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If we want to give them a prison membership, how can we do it?
I bet that if I try I can find people willing to donate the money to
provide their best players with prison memberships.

Why would anyone WANT to??? These people are prisoners and suspected
terrorists! Ridiculous! These people come over here to help destroy our
country and you want to REWARD them??

Mr. Nemmers:

Are *all* these "suspected terrorists" already undoubtedly guilty in your
mind of your worst suspicions? So what do you propose to do with them?
Kill them all? Keep them all locked up in cages for the rest of their lives?

Eventually, I suspect, most of these people will be released and go home.
They will go home with attitudes toward the United States and the American
people, which then they can pass on to others around them. In my opinion,
what the United States does to or what the American people do for them now
could significantly influence what their attitudes likely will become.
Even a few gestures of simple human compassion might go a disproportionately
long way in abating their presumed hostility toward the United States.

Also, if a "suspected terrorist" were to develop an obsession with chess, then
whom should that "reward" most? The "terrorist" or his potential target(s)?

You're a moron, Sloan, but I had no idea your insanity went so deep so
as to propose we try to make life better for those who want to kill us.

As your military career continues, perhaps someday you will go abroad and
attempt to kill people (and perhaps you will succeed) on behalf of the United
States. Perhaps someday (Who can always foresee the fortunes of war?) you
will become a prisoner of those people whom you have been attempting to kill.

Then what would you do? Might you demand "your right" to play chess during
your captivity? Then suppose your captors were to tell you (see above):
"Do you believe that we are insane? Why should *we try to make life better
for those who want to kill us*?"

Then you may hope that your enemies will treat you with more mercy than you
seem willing to show toward them.

"You need no mercy, and therefore know not how to show any."
--Nathaniel Hawthorne (The Marble Faun)

--Nick

(Nick) wrote in message . com...
"Matt Nemmers" wrote in
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"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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If we want to give them a prison membership, how can we do it?
I bet that if I try I can find people willing to donate the money to
provide their best players with prison memberships.

Why would anyone WANT to??? These people are prisoners and suspected
terrorists! Ridiculous! These people come over here to help destroy our
country and you want to REWARD them??

Mr. Nemmers:
Are *all* these "suspected terrorists" already undoubtedly guilty in your
mind of your worst suspicions? So what do you propose to do with them?
Kill them all? Keep them all locked up in cages for the rest of their lives?

Eventually, I suspect, most of these people will be released and go home.
They will go home with attitudes toward the United States and the American
people, which then they can pass on to others around them. In my opinion,
what the United States does to or what the American people do for them now
could significantly influence what their attitudes likely will become.
Even a few gestures of simple human compassion might go a disproportionately
long way in abating their presumed hostility toward the United States.

I believe that it's in the best interests of the United States to treat its
prisoners as humanely as practicable, at least for the reason that it could
encourage the humane treatment of American prisoners or hostages in the future.

Also, if a "suspected terrorist" were to develop an obsession with chess, then
whom should that "reward" most? The "terrorist" or his potential target(s)?

'You have, let us say, a promising politician, a rising artist that you wish to
destroy. Dagger or bomb are archaic, clumsy, and unreliable--but teach him,
innoculate him with chess! Our statesmen would sit with pocket boards while
the country went to the devil...'
--H.G. Wells

--Nick

Are *all* these "suspected terrorists" already undoubtedly guilty in your
mind of your worst suspicions? So what do you propose to do with them?
Kill them all? Keep them all locked up in cages for the rest of their lives?


Why don't you ask the 2700+ families that lost someone in the tower collapse
that question?

What to do with them? Extract what you can from them and then SHOOT them
because thats exactly what they'd do to us.

Eventually, I suspect, most of these people will be released and go home.
They will go home with attitudes toward the United States and the American
people, which then they can pass on to others around them.

What planet are you from?? You cannot possibly be serious. These people LAUGH
at us fo how we treat them. We feed them clean them up and send them home so
they can do us more harm. I see NOTHING wrong with flying them home, ALL of
them and during the flight randomly picking a few and just picthing them out
the cargo door. These people are so anxious to meet Allah, why not help them?