"Robert Musicant" wrote in message . net...

Lance,
Very interesting. If so, that would tend to confirm the sense I get about
Fischer that he sometimes doesn't quite mean what he says when he talks in
hateful terms about individuals.
Something similar arises with respect to Spassky. By all accounts the two
old opponents form a mutual admiration society. Yet Dautov reported Fischer
as telling her, in 1988 or thereabouts, that Spassky was not to be trusted
because he worked for the KGB.-- Bob

Bob,

Nope, he does not mean it to friends. He even say that Spassky is also
a crook. He can say that because he is his friend but, he is never
malicious about it. Journalists sometimes take it too seriously.

In the real world, we do that to friends and people around us who know
us, just dismiss it as talks between friends.

Lance

"Liam Too" wrote in message
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"Robert Musicant" wrote in message
. net...

Lance,
Very interesting. If so, that would tend to confirm the sense I get
about
Fischer that he sometimes doesn't quite mean what he says when he talks
in
hateful terms about individuals.
Something similar arises with respect to Spassky. By all accounts the
two
old opponents form a mutual admiration society. Yet Dautov reported
Fischer
as telling her, in 1988 or thereabouts, that Spassky was not to be
trusted
because he worked for the KGB.-- Bob

Bob,

Nope, he does not mean it to friends. He even say that Spassky is also
a crook. He can say that because he is his friend but, he is never
malicious about it. Journalists sometimes take it too seriously.

In the real world, we do that to friends and people around us who know
us, just dismiss it as talks between friends.

Lance

Lance,
You apparently have a more tolerant circle of friends than I do.
Bob

"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
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Bob,

This is the English version of his page.

http://www.klimovlib.boom.ru/Klimov-e.htm


Todd,
This is either as good a satire as your page about Beria and Stalin, or
incomprehensible. I take it that the English word "degenerate" has a
connotation quite different from the Russian word that is being translated
here.

And the interviews? Where are they?

Bob

"Robert Musicant" wrote in message v.net...

Lance,

Tim Krabbé's e-mail address is as public as can be. But just as I once
called the New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission when Sam publicly
asked how he could get in touch with individual commissioners, rather than
just picking up the phone, I will run down for you the Dutch novelist's
contact information.
.
There, that took about 73 seconds.

Seriously, apart from what you claim is a false allegation of fatherhood
stemming from an unreliable source, for which he should not personally be
blamed, what factual errors do you find in Krabbé's writing about Fischer?

Bob

Bob, tim Krabbe has been posting here in RGCM with the above email.
His latest one was this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ti...ll.nl&rnum =3

I wonder why he does not get in to our discussions if he is the
subject?

In his website, he has defaced the name of Bobby Fischer, he has been
writing it as Bobby Nemenyi on this link:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/admag/nemenyi.htm

He has also a game called Bobbycube on this link:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/anfy/bcube.htm

His obsession on Bobby is beyond compare. I believe that Tim Krabbe is
a deranged person and Bobby Fischer is too normal if compared to
Krabbe.

Lance Smith

"Liam Too" wrote in message
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His obsession on Bobby is beyond compare. I believe that Tim Krabbe is
a deranged person and Bobby Fischer is too normal if compared to
Krabbe.

Lance Smith

Lance,
But he is nevertheless a wonderful novelist. Have you ever read "The Cave"
or "The Golden Egg" (English title: The Vanishing)?
Bob

"Robert Musicant" wrote in message . net...
Lance,
But he is nevertheless a wonderful novelist. Have you ever read "The Cave"
or "The Golden Egg" (English title: The Vanishing)?-- Bob

Bob,

He is a good novelist alright, but his writings and other stupid stuff
of Fischer is making his credibility not good.

I believe that "The Vanishing" was made into a movie here in the US.

Lance

Bob,

This is not a satire, Klimov writes about it seriously and has a lot
of people believing in this nonsense. There are a lot of sites with
his books and interviews, but mostly in Russian. There is even a site
of Klimov fans, also in Russian. The word "degenerate" has the same
meaning in English and in Russian, but I think Klimov is misusing it

Todd.

"Liam Too" wrote in message
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"Robert Musicant" wrote in message
. net...
Lance,
But he is nevertheless a wonderful novelist. Have you ever read "The
Cave"
or "The Golden Egg" (English title: The Vanishing)?-- Bob

Bob,

He is a good novelist alright, but his writings and other stupid stuff
of Fischer is making his credibility not good.

I believe that "The Vanishing" was made into a movie here in the US.

Lance

Lance,
Two movies were made of The Vanishing, one in the US, the other in Europe.
France, I think.
Bob

"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
m...
Bob,

This is not a satire, Klimov writes about it seriously and has a lot
of people believing in this nonsense.

Including the CIA? Or is that some self-promotion on his part?

There are a lot of sites with
his books and interviews, but mostly in Russian. There is even a site
of Klimov fans, also in Russian.

Yes, so I've seen.

The word "degenerate" has the same
meaning in English and in Russian, but I think Klimov is misusing it

In what context was he writing about Fischer?

Including the CIA? Or is that some self-promotion on his part?

I can't tell you how trutful is his autobiography, but I heard that
some CIA agents worked for the KGB. Perhaps Klimov is one of them.

In what context was he writing about Fischer?

http://borzoi.dvo.ru/elib/klimg001/00000011.htm

Klimov writes about anti-Semites(he calles them anti-Yids) and
mentions Fischer in this connection. "Pathetic and tragic. It looks
like Bobby Fischer is mentally ill. And his mother was a psychopathic
Jewess, who once chained herself to the White House gate".

http://www.klimovlib.boom.ru/Books/Legion/Leg06.htm

In the book "My name is legion Klimov wrote:

"According to American press, Fischer is a pathological egocentic and
monomaniac with a complex of destruction, sublimating in chess.
Pathologically loves money. A pathological impudent and a misogynist.
He is not interested both in men and women, and that is the reason of
most psychoses. Fischer is half-Jewish, the child of an unsuccessful
marriage. The name of his mother is Regina, that means "a queen",
perhaps, for this reason her husband ran away from her. Acording to
Freid, the name "Regina"(as well as "Diana") is a bad sign. Once
Regina, in order to get attention to herself, chained herself to the
White House gate. She is a typical psychopath. Bobby did not even
finish school because of bad marks. He is a typical hybrid of a
defective child and a manic genius."