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"Sam Sloan" wrote in message ... Benko says that he did not compose this endgame and never would, as it has several flaws. I apologize to Benko. I should have realized immediately that this was not a Benko problem. Are you telling us that you made yet another mistake? StanB |
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At 05:53 PM 9/15/2003 -0400, Lonnie Kwartler wrote:
Hi Sam, I don't believe Livermore was strong enough to play Shirazi speed chess. He would only play to win money and on occasion dare to play a stronger player at apparently good odds. I saw him lose every game to Seirawan at 6 minutes to one. I also easily beat him at about 6-3 with numerous side-bettors on his side. In the book Vinnie broke even with Lobron and appeared to beat the "GM" in the park in the movie. That part of the character was not Livermore. I have read that Morrison claims to be part of the character. I would prefer to not speak about Livermore's personal traits, which were left out of the story, now. However, I believe the killer of Oscar Freeman should be named, even if only privately. Lonnie Kwartler Since you have been around for a while, I would have thought that you knew the story. If you do not, I will tell you but only privately. I think I can tell the basic facts without naming names publicly. The person in question had already been told that he was not welcome at the Manhattan Chess Club, which at the time was located in the Henry Hudson Hotel. In December, 1972, when this person walked in the door to the Manhattan Chess Club, Oscar Freeman immediately got into the telephone booth, presumably to call the police. This person realized what Freeman was probably doing and pulled him out of the telephone booth. There was a scuffle on the floor. Oscar Freeman was 67 years old. He died of a heart attack two or three days later. This person was never charged with a crime, but those familiar with the incident had little doubt that the scuffle on the floor was what brought on the heart attack. Significantly, Oscar Freeman was widely disliked for exactly the same reason Larry Tamarkin is disliked, telling people to leave the club. Few came to the funeral of Oscar Freeman and I never heard expressions of regret that he had died. The one person who really liked Oscar Freeman was Burt Hochberg and Hochberg wrote the obituary which was published in Chess Life magazine. After Freeman died, Bethy Cassidy became director of the Manhattan Chess Club. She was followed by Hans Kmoch, Jeffrey Kastner, Frances Goldfarb and several others, I cannot remember them all. They all had the same duties. Somehow, Jeffrey Kastner and the others had a polite way to tell people that they had to leave the club without getting anybody offended, angry or upset. Somehow Oscar Freeman and Larry Tamarkin have not cultivated that talent. Sam Sloan |
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Thanks, Sam! I'm one of those people who's only played about 5 games of
chess in my life but still rank this movie as one of my all-time faves anyway - the acting and the insight into the making of a prodigy are just terrific. And the kid is amazing, a wonderful actor who's perfect for the role and so natural in it. One thing I wanted to point out, for anyone who hasn't seen it on video: I don't know if this is on the DVD of the movie as well, but the video actually ends with a short ad featuring the real Josh, Bruce, and Fred Waitzkin promoting the national association for youth chess. It's a really nice coda to the movie, seeing the real people from it. Sally "Sam Sloan" wrote in message ... Searching for Bobby Fischer I just replayed the movie "Searching for Booby Fischer" on video. Of course, I had seen the movie before, but this time I saw a few things I had not seen previously. I think that we as chess players can learn a lot from this movie. It is a masterpiece in the way that it takes a subject most people would find to be deadly boring and turns it into an exciting drama. Best of all, the main events actually happened in real life and all of the characters are or were real people, although some modifications were necessary to make it into a good movie which the general public would enjoy. The plot line: Talented seven-year-old boy defeats his main rival to win National Scholastic Chess Championship. Already, there is a little fib. In real life, Joshua Waitzkin was about 13 when he won the National Scholastic Championship. That was no big deal, so they had to cut his age to seven to make the story more interesting. In your typical Bruce Lee Movie, in the grand finale, Bruce Lee fights the grand wizard to the death. Here instead, two seven year old kids battle for the title. In the movie, the opponent is Jonathan Poe. However, in real life, the final battle was fought by Joshua Waitzkin against Jeff Sarwer. To those familiar with the background, there is a reason for this name change. Shortly after the real life tournament, the real life Jeff Sarwer was taken away from the custody of his father by the child welfare authorities. I do not know the details of what happened, but it is clear that no court appointed guardian would ever agree to the portrayal of Sarwer and his father the way that they are portrayed in this movie. So, the movie commits another fib. It says that the man who is bringing the Sarwer character around to chess tournaments is not his father at all. This man says that the parents have given the child to his guardianship at age 4, that all he does is play chess and that he never goes to school. The real life Sawyer, whom I once played in a tournament (I beat him) never went to school either, but as far as I know the man bringing him to chess tournaments was his real father. Still, the guardian/father of Sarwer delivers one of the most significant lines in the movie: "Eventually you realize that you have taught them all that you can, and you just have to let them be what they are." Every line and every word of this movie is significant. It is a masterpiece of writing and editing. This makes it easy for the viewer to miss important points. It would sometimes be difficult to follow, as the movie constantly shifts back and forth between real events and fantasy. For example, there is actual footage of news broadcasts of the real Bobby Fischer and as well as vintage photographs of Edward Lasker, John W. Collins and other famous chess players. There is the eternal conflict between the boy and his father. There are also conflicts between the public school teacher and the parents, the parents with each other, the parents and the coach, and the coach, an actor, Ben Kingsley playing Bruce Pandolfini, and the chess hustler in the park, Laurence Fishburne playing Vinnie a/k/a Vincent Livermore. In real life, Vincent Livermore died of AIDS just before the movie came out. I asked Joshua Waitzkin about this (I asked the real life Joshua Waitzkin, not an actor playing him in the movies) and he told me that the character "Vinnie" is a composite based in part on Vincent Livermore and in part on another chess player. This movie has had a profound effect on the lives of several chess players. The real life Bruce Pandolfini has become a wealthy man giving chess lessons for $250 an hour to parents who are convinced that their brilliant tyke needs lessons from the real Bruce Pandolfini. On the other hand, FIDE Master Asa Hoffmann is portrayed in the movie as a raving schizophrenic who talks to himself. In real life, Asa Hoffman does not do that and is a much stronger chess player than Bruce Pandolfini, but Asa has a hard time getting paying chess students, so he reduces himself to hustling strangers every day for five dollars a game in Liberty Park near the former World Trade Center. It must be mentioned here that the producers of this movie paid the real Asa Hoffmann a very large sum of money for the rights to have an actor portray him, so Hoffman is not complaining. In the movie, the Bruce Pandolfini character says that Asa Hoffmann is the child of two Park Avenue lawyers and attended Columbia University. I learned something here. I knew that the father of Asa Hoffmann was a prominent lawyer. I did not previously know that his mother was an even more famous lawyer who argued before the United States Supreme Court. There is a chess player who in real life acts the same way that the Asa Hoffmann character in the movies acts. That is Larry Gilden, but I have not seen him in years and I doubt that Joshua Waitzkin has seen him at all. In one of the early scenes, Bruce Pandofini takes Fred Waitzkin, Joshua's father, to see a real chess tournament. The room is filled with smoke and it is not possible to see from one end of the room to the other. Playing in this smoke filled room are Joel Benjamin and Roman Dzindzichashvili, playing themselves in the movie. The point is that these are the best chess players in the country and yet they are playing in squalid conditions. However, I have never seen such bad conditions in a chess tournament. Smoking has been banned in chess tournaments for years. There are so many other little details like that that I cannot possibly list them all, but the big conflict in the movie concerns chess strategy. Beginners at chess usually want to move out their queen right away, but experienced players try to keep their queen safely behind their minor pieces. Bruce Pandolfini, the chess teacher, teacher Joshua to play positionally and to keep his queen back. Vincent Livermore, who plays Joshua two minute chess in Washington Square Park, teaches him to bring out the queen early. In one of his first tournaments, Joshua plays an early Qf3, in an obvious beginner's attempt at a Scholars Mate in which White plays the moves 1 e4 2 Bc4 3. Qf3 4. Qxf7 mate. An adult watching the game smirks at this move. You have to be a chess player to understand the reason for the smirk. The climatic showdown comes when Joshua is on stage battling for the championship. His rival Jonathan Poe arrives. It will be a fight to the finish. I have worked out the moves. I do not believe that anybody else has done this, so please pay attention. The game starts with a Queens Gambit Accepted as follows: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. a4 Bf5 6. Ne5 e6 7. Bg5. This game is being watched on TV by the parents and coaches in another room. Laurence Fishburne says, "Bring her out". Bruce Pandolfini says "Don't even think about bringing her out." They both repeat themselves several times and exchange dirty glances. What they are talking about is Joshua's next move could be either Qa5, developing the queen perhaps prematurely, or Be7 or Nd7 which are both normal developing moves. This is a key point in the drama. Finally, Josh plays Qa5, disobeying his teacher. I tried to figure out which moves came next but it is apparent that the next bunch of moves are just random moves or more likely were edited in out of sequence. Eventually, they reach the following problem-like position: White has a king on e6, rook on e5, knight on e4, bishop on g5 and pawns on f6 and h4. Black has rook on c8, bishop on d8, knight on b6, king on c2 and pawns on a7 and g7. This looks like a problem created by Grandmaster Pal Benko, but Taghian Taghian told me that Bruce Pandolfini and another chess player worked it out. Pal Benko was a consultant to this movie, however. The last move by White was Kd5. It is now Black to play and win. It is a cute solution. I do not know how difficult it is, because I know the solution already, since I had to work backwards from the final position to get to this position. It is almost ridiculous to suggest that any seven year old child could find over the board the solution to this problem which was perhaps composed by Grandmaster Pal Benko. OK Ready? The solution is: 1. ... gxf6 2. Bxf6 Rc6+ 3. Kf5 Rxf6 4. Nxf6 Bxf6 5. Kxf6 Nd7+ 6. Kf5 Nxe5+ 7. Kxe5 a5 8. h5 a4 9. h6 a3 10. h7 a2 11. h8=Q a1=Q+ 12. Kf5 Qxh8 White resigns 0-1 By the way, it took me about an hour of playing back and replaying this video before I got all the pieces in their correct positions and all the moves right too. The point is that White has queened his pawn first but Black queens with check on the long diagonal and wins White's queen. A cute and unusual solution to an endgame study. By the way, in real life the game ended in a draw. Sam Sloan |
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Interesting post, Sam. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
DJV "Sam Sloan" wrote in message ... Searching for Bobby Fischer I just replayed the movie "Searching for Booby Fischer" on video. Of course, I had seen the movie before, but this time I saw a few things I had not seen previously. I think that we as chess players can learn a lot from this movie. It is a masterpiece in the way that it takes a subject most people would find to be deadly boring and turns it into an exciting drama. Best of all, the main events actually happened in real life and all of the characters are or were real people, although some modifications were necessary to make it into a good movie which the general public would enjoy. The plot line: Talented seven-year-old boy defeats his main rival to win National Scholastic Chess Championship. Already, there is a little fib. In real life, Joshua Waitzkin was about 13 when he won the National Scholastic Championship. That was no big deal, so they had to cut his age to seven to make the story more interesting. In your typical Bruce Lee Movie, in the grand finale, Bruce Lee fights the grand wizard to the death. Here instead, two seven year old kids battle for the title. In the movie, the opponent is Jonathan Poe. However, in real life, the final battle was fought by Joshua Waitzkin against Jeff Sarwer. To those familiar with the background, there is a reason for this name change. Shortly after the real life tournament, the real life Jeff Sarwer was taken away from the custody of his father by the child welfare authorities. I do not know the details of what happened, but it is clear that no court appointed guardian would ever agree to the portrayal of Sarwer and his father the way that they are portrayed in this movie. So, the movie commits another fib. It says that the man who is bringing the Sarwer character around to chess tournaments is not his father at all. This man says that the parents have given the child to his guardianship at age 4, that all he does is play chess and that he never goes to school. The real life Sawyer, whom I once played in a tournament (I beat him) never went to school either, but as far as I know the man bringing him to chess tournaments was his real father. Still, the guardian/father of Sarwer delivers one of the most significant lines in the movie: "Eventually you realize that you have taught them all that you can, and you just have to let them be what they are." Every line and every word of this movie is significant. It is a masterpiece of writing and editing. This makes it easy for the viewer to miss important points. It would sometimes be difficult to follow, as the movie constantly shifts back and forth between real events and fantasy. For example, there is actual footage of news broadcasts of the real Bobby Fischer and as well as vintage photographs of Edward Lasker, John W. Collins and other famous chess players. There is the eternal conflict between the boy and his father. There are also conflicts between the public school teacher and the parents, the parents with each other, the parents and the coach, and the coach, an actor, Ben Kingsley playing Bruce Pandolfini, and the chess hustler in the park, Laurence Fishburne playing Vinnie a/k/a Vincent Livermore. In real life, Vincent Livermore died of AIDS just before the movie came out. I asked Joshua Waitzkin about this (I asked the real life Joshua Waitzkin, not an actor playing him in the movies) and he told me that the character "Vinnie" is a composite based in part on Vincent Livermore and in part on another chess player. This movie has had a profound effect on the lives of several chess players. The real life Bruce Pandolfini has become a wealthy man giving chess lessons for $250 an hour to parents who are convinced that their brilliant tyke needs lessons from the real Bruce Pandolfini. On the other hand, FIDE Master Asa Hoffmann is portrayed in the movie as a raving schizophrenic who talks to himself. In real life, Asa Hoffman does not do that and is a much stronger chess player than Bruce Pandolfini, but Asa has a hard time getting paying chess students, so he reduces himself to hustling strangers every day for five dollars a game in Liberty Park near the former World Trade Center. It must be mentioned here that the producers of this movie paid the real Asa Hoffmann a very large sum of money for the rights to have an actor portray him, so Hoffman is not complaining. In the movie, the Bruce Pandolfini character says that Asa Hoffmann is the child of two Park Avenue lawyers and attended Columbia University. I learned something here. I knew that the father of Asa Hoffmann was a prominent lawyer. I did not previously know that his mother was an even more famous lawyer who argued before the United States Supreme Court. There is a chess player who in real life acts the same way that the Asa Hoffmann character in the movies acts. That is Larry Gilden, but I have not seen him in years and I doubt that Joshua Waitzkin has seen him at all. In one of the early scenes, Bruce Pandofini takes Fred Waitzkin, Joshua's father, to see a real chess tournament. The room is filled with smoke and it is not possible to see from one end of the room to the other. Playing in this smoke filled room are Joel Benjamin and Roman Dzindzichashvili, playing themselves in the movie. The point is that these are the best chess players in the country and yet they are playing in squalid conditions. However, I have never seen such bad conditions in a chess tournament. Smoking has been banned in chess tournaments for years. There are so many other little details like that that I cannot possibly list them all, but the big conflict in the movie concerns chess strategy. Beginners at chess usually want to move out their queen right away, but experienced players try to keep their queen safely behind their minor pieces. Bruce Pandolfini, the chess teacher, teacher Joshua to play positionally and to keep his queen back. Vincent Livermore, who plays Joshua two minute chess in Washington Square Park, teaches him to bring out the queen early. In one of his first tournaments, Joshua plays an early Qf3, in an obvious beginner's attempt at a Scholars Mate in which White plays the moves 1 e4 2 Bc4 3. Qf3 4. Qxf7 mate. An adult watching the game smirks at this move. You have to be a chess player to understand the reason for the smirk. The climatic showdown comes when Joshua is on stage battling for the championship. His rival Jonathan Poe arrives. It will be a fight to the finish. I have worked out the moves. I do not believe that anybody else has done this, so please pay attention. The game starts with a Queens Gambit Accepted as follows: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. a4 Bf5 6. Ne5 e6 7. Bg5. This game is being watched on TV by the parents and coaches in another room. Laurence Fishburne says, "Bring her out". Bruce Pandolfini says "Don't even think about bringing her out." They both repeat themselves several times and exchange dirty glances. What they are talking about is Joshua's next move could be either Qa5, developing the queen perhaps prematurely, or Be7 or Nd7 which are both normal developing moves. This is a key point in the drama. Finally, Josh plays Qa5, disobeying his teacher. I tried to figure out which moves came next but it is apparent that the next bunch of moves are just random moves or more likely were edited in out of sequence. Eventually, they reach the following problem-like position: White has a king on e6, rook on e5, knight on e4, bishop on g5 and pawns on f6 and h4. Black has rook on c8, bishop on d8, knight on b6, king on c2 and pawns on a7 and g7. This looks like a problem created by Grandmaster Pal Benko, but Taghian Taghian told me that Bruce Pandolfini and another chess player worked it out. Pal Benko was a consultant to this movie, however. The last move by White was Kd5. It is now Black to play and win. It is a cute solution. I do not know how difficult it is, because I know the solution already, since I had to work backwards from the final position to get to this position. It is almost ridiculous to suggest that any seven year old child could find over the board the solution to this problem which was perhaps composed by Grandmaster Pal Benko. OK Ready? The solution is: 1. ... gxf6 2. Bxf6 Rc6+ 3. Kf5 Rxf6 4. Nxf6 Bxf6 5. Kxf6 Nd7+ 6. Kf5 Nxe5+ 7. Kxe5 a5 8. h5 a4 9. h6 a3 10. h7 a2 11. h8=Q a1=Q+ 12. Kf5 Qxh8 White resigns 0-1 By the way, it took me about an hour of playing back and replaying this video before I got all the pieces in their correct positions and all the moves right too. The point is that White has queened his pawn first but Black queens with check on the long diagonal and wins White's queen. A cute and unusual solution to an endgame study. By the way, in real life the game ended in a draw. Sam Sloan |
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"sgw" wrote in message . com...
One thing I wanted to point out, for anyone who hasn't seen it on video: I don't know if this is on the DVD of the movie as well,-- Sally It's now on DVD. |
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