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Old September 18th 03, 03:06 AM
Paul Truong
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Dear Ben:

Alex made a poor judgment. There was no doubt about it. Regardless
how the trial goes, his reputation has been damaged. However, as long
as I have known him since the junior days, he has been one of the
nicest person in chess. He has a long list of friends who will
testify on his behalf starting tomorrow. Some of these names have a
lot of credibility in the chess world. I am not sure if it will help
or not but let's wish him the best. He cannot read your message
because he is not allowed to use the Internet. However, your message
will be given to him. Thank you for supporting a friend Ben. Take
care!

Best Regards,
Paul


(Ben Finegold) wrote in message . com...
I certainly hope the trial ends quickly and in acquittal.

Alex Sherzer is a fine man, and stupidity is not a crime. I think he
should be yelled at a lot by his friends, but if I Alex is convicted I
will feel a little bit dead inside. I have known Alex for almost 20
years, and he is no criminal, just a bit odd....like everyone
else..but in a different way.

I hope Joel and Susan can help out all they can, and get this
silliness over with quickly. I am not sure what they can do, but I
guess if they are there, it may help. I wish I was there as well.

Alex, if you ever read this....don't do stupid **** anymore. Unless it
is chess related...like c5? in the Bayonet...

I have not posted about this previously, as I am afraid of
rec.games.chess retribution, from the people who post here ad nauseum
(I guess there are only about 10 people who actually post here, but a
lot more read the posts). But I am getting quite upset with this whole
mess, so the hell with it. If you knew Alex like I do, you know that
his going to prison is an absurdity.

BPF

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Old September 18th 03, 06:26 AM
ModernCaveman21
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Alex made a poor judgment.

What a ****ing euphemism.


There was no doubt about it. Regardless
how the trial goes, his reputation has been damaged. However, as long
as I have known him since the junior days, he has been one of the
nicest person in chess.


And that makes him above the law?

He has a long list of friends who will
testify on his behalf starting tomorrow.


I always hated that concept (along with "victim impact statements") because it
implies that having more friends carries weight in a court of law, even in a
society where those who fight corruption usually have fewer friends.

Some of these names have a
lot of credibility in the chess world. I am not sure if it will help
or not but let's wish him the best. He cannot read your message
because he is not allowed to use the Internet.


Gee, that's shocking.

However, your message
will be given to him. Thank you for supporting a friend Ben. Take
care!


As I said before, I've been accused of what Alex was accused of, and I was
accused of it because I exposed child abuse in gymnastics (I found out about it
because the gymnastics world abuses much the same way as the chess world does,
with the same countries involved).

One of the louder accusers of mine was a 2500+ rated chessplayer who decided
that he was a one-man vigilante. Wonder what he has to say now.

I never found Alex to be nice or not nice. I found him to be an IM strength
player, and that's about all I needed to know to share a spot on the wallcharts
with him.


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Old September 18th 03, 03:44 PM
Ben Finegold
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Hi Paul,

Thanks for the post...I am glad Alex will get the message. If Alex or
his attoney needs to contact me, let me know. Tell Alex to always
remember how to say "construction worker" in Hungarian (he will know
what I mean)...and no laughing fits in court, it may look bad to the
jury.


BPF

(Paul Truong) wrote in message om...
Dear Ben:

Alex made a poor judgment. There was no doubt about it. Regardless
how the trial goes, his reputation has been damaged. However, as long
as I have known him since the junior days, he has been one of the
nicest person in chess. He has a long list of friends who will
testify on his behalf starting tomorrow. Some of these names have a
lot of credibility in the chess world. I am not sure if it will help
or not but let's wish him the best. He cannot read your message
because he is not allowed to use the Internet. However, your message
will be given to him. Thank you for supporting a friend Ben. Take
care!

Best Regards,
Paul


(Ben Finegold) wrote in message . com...
I certainly hope the trial ends quickly and in acquittal.

Alex Sherzer is a fine man, and stupidity is not a crime. I think he
should be yelled at a lot by his friends, but if I Alex is convicted I
will feel a little bit dead inside. I have known Alex for almost 20
years, and he is no criminal, just a bit odd....like everyone
else..but in a different way.

I hope Joel and Susan can help out all they can, and get this
silliness over with quickly. I am not sure what they can do, but I
guess if they are there, it may help. I wish I was there as well.

Alex, if you ever read this....don't do stupid **** anymore. Unless it
is chess related...like c5? in the Bayonet...

I have not posted about this previously, as I am afraid of
rec.games.chess retribution, from the people who post here ad nauseum
(I guess there are only about 10 people who actually post here, but a
lot more read the posts). But I am getting quite upset with this whole
mess, so the hell with it. If you knew Alex like I do, you know that
his going to prison is an absurdity.

BPF

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Old September 18th 03, 07:14 PM
Paul Truong
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Dear Ben:

I sure will not speculate on what took place or what will happen.
However, he seemed to be in good spirit when I saw him recently. He
understands how serious the situation is. He said he will set the
record straight when he is allowed to. He also said many of the
things that have been floating around are not true. But he really
appreciates the support he gets. I will make sure he will get your
message as well as from others. Thanks Ben!

Best Regards,
Paul



(Ben Finegold) wrote in message . com...
Hi Paul,

Thanks for the post...I am glad Alex will get the message. If Alex or
his attoney needs to contact me, let me know. Tell Alex to always
remember how to say "construction worker" in Hungarian (he will know
what I mean)...and no laughing fits in court, it may look bad to the
jury.


BPF

(Paul Truong) wrote in message om...
Dear Ben:

Alex made a poor judgment. There was no doubt about it. Regardless
how the trial goes, his reputation has been damaged. However, as long
as I have known him since the junior days, he has been one of the
nicest person in chess. He has a long list of friends who will
testify on his behalf starting tomorrow. Some of these names have a
lot of credibility in the chess world. I am not sure if it will help
or not but let's wish him the best. He cannot read your message
because he is not allowed to use the Internet. However, your message
will be given to him. Thank you for supporting a friend Ben. Take
care!

Best Regards,
Paul


(Ben Finegold) wrote in message . com...
I certainly hope the trial ends quickly and in acquittal.

Alex Sherzer is a fine man, and stupidity is not a crime. I think he
should be yelled at a lot by his friends, but if I Alex is convicted I
will feel a little bit dead inside. I have known Alex for almost 20
years, and he is no criminal, just a bit odd....like everyone
else..but in a different way.

I hope Joel and Susan can help out all they can, and get this
silliness over with quickly. I am not sure what they can do, but I
guess if they are there, it may help. I wish I was there as well.

Alex, if you ever read this....don't do stupid **** anymore. Unless it
is chess related...like c5? in the Bayonet...

I have not posted about this previously, as I am afraid of
rec.games.chess retribution, from the people who post here ad nauseum
(I guess there are only about 10 people who actually post here, but a
lot more read the posts). But I am getting quite upset with this whole
mess, so the hell with it. If you knew Alex like I do, you know that
his going to prison is an absurdity.

BPF

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Old September 19th 03, 03:23 AM
Jerome Bibuld
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Dear Paul,

Heil Dubya!

If you have been in touch with Alex, you know much more than has been published
on these fora, most of it lies and malicious speculation, I'm sure. Please
tell Alex I wish him the VERY BEST and ask him if he would be available -- at
my standard offer for GMs -- were I to get up the money for a Cat. X
tournament. (NO PROMISES, but I'm working on it.)

Incidentally, while I have known and respected you for years, I wasn't aware of
the depth of your humanity until recently. Congratulations on taking an active
stand on the Sherzer frameup.

Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak! Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date of the Reichstag fire?)

Fraternally,

Jerry Bibuld
gens una sumus
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Old September 20th 03, 11:01 PM
Mogath3
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Well, not for nothing, but do any of you guys that are in Alex's corner have
kids? He initially did correspond with a minor, so I am curious if any of you
have kids.

Regards,
Jeff

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Old September 20th 03, 11:50 PM
King Leopold
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I have a 12 yr old girl. So you can see why my anger is justifiable.


"Mogath3" wrote in message
...
Well, not for nothing, but do any of you guys that are in Alex's corner

have
kids? He initially did correspond with a minor, so I am curious if any of

you
have kids.

Regards,
Jeff



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Old September 21st 03, 02:07 AM
Mogath3
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I have a 12 yr old girl. So you can see why my anger is justifiable.


My point EXACTLY! If he would have had that conversation with MY daughter, no
police would have been involved at all, he would have just gone "missing".
While the circumstances of his case are questionable, he still thought he was
talking to a 15 year old GIRL. A GIRL. He still thought he was corresponding
with a girl. So while he was corresponding with what HE THOUGHT was a 15 year
old girl, what kind of feelings was he having? Was he anxious to go and meet
WHAT HE THOUGHT was a girl? I saw someone say that "sure, he's a little ODD",
well YEAH!! If you like kids you WOULD be a little ODD. I don't care what
stature he has, who he is, who his friends are, he still THOUGHT he was talking
to a 15 year old girl and had every intention of carrying out this act. That
counts for NOTHING though? Sure, maybe not prison time because he didn't
actually DO anything, but it should be WELL known that he's a pervert and I
hope his reputation and standing ARE ruined. But the law being what it is,
he'll more than likely get off because his "friends" will have their say in
court and paint this pretty picture of Mr. Sherzer. I just hope that if thats
the case and he dares show his face at a tournament someone has the balls to
tell him what a scumbag he is.
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Old September 21st 03, 02:30 AM
Kenneth C.
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"Mogath3" wrote in message
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I have a 12 yr old girl. So you can see why my anger is justifiable.


My point EXACTLY! If he would have had that conversation with MY daughter,

no
police would have been involved at all, he would have just gone "missing".


Careful now! Even thinking about doing something illegal, like having
someone go "missing", may get you in trouble. As this case may show, not
only the crime, but the mere thinking of, and planning of, can get you in
hot water. Have the thought police arrived? I certainly hope not.


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Old September 21st 03, 07:16 AM
Paul Truong
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Dear Jeff:

I have an 11-year old daughter and a 10-year old son. As I said, I
told Alex my opinion of his actions. What I said to him is between me
and him. However, there are some facts that the public do not know.
I think people should hold the judgment until after the trial.
Everyone is in agreement that he made a very poor judgment. But to
look at the case purely based on what the newspaper stated is unfair.
Let the legal system takes care of itself. Let the facts be known
once it is available and both sides can comment on it.

Best Regards,
Paul


(Mogath3) wrote in message ...
Well, not for nothing, but do any of you guys that are in Alex's corner have
kids? He initially did correspond with a minor, so I am curious if any of you
have kids.

Regards,
Jeff

 




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