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Who was the WEAKEST ***WOMEN'S*** World Champion of Chess ever?



 
 
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Old October 13th 03, 05:36 AM
Angelo DePalma
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Peter,

Ms. Polgar is showing class and charity. She's in a much better position to
judge him in that light than we are. Let the Fischer nonsense go.

Angelo

"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
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"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
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Dear Susan,

Would you really still want to play chess against Fischer, despite all the
things he said in the radio-interviews? I wonder who is more remarkable,

you
or Fischer!

"If I ever decide to do any project relating to Bobby, I would want his
consent". Either you have a very special contact with Fischer or this is
very naiv. Only a few persons, who spoke publicly about their friendship
with Fischer still have contact with him. I can only think of Benko and
Leko. Perhaps he has a special contact with Hungarians. Do you think

Fischer
knew his father came from Hungary?
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I have great respect for Bobby's chess skills and I wish him the best with
his life as well as being a Dad.
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What do you think, should Fischer teach Jinky Ong chess? In my opinion

he'd
better teaches his daughter Go. Then she really has a change to become

world
champion. Within the first 300 on the international Go-rating list you
already find 15 women. The highest ranked woman (after Judit) on the
chess-rating list is Stefanova Antoaneta on 601. Isn't that worrying?
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He was very nice to me and my family.
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Those three lovely girls softened his heart :-)

Best regards, Peter van der Hoog




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Old October 13th 03, 01:02 PM
Peter van der Hoog
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"Angelo DePalma" wrote in message ...
Peter,

Ms. Polgar is showing class and charity. She's in a much better position to
judge him in that light than we are. Let the Fischer nonsense go.

Angelo


Angelo,
I have the highest respect for Ms. Polgar but I also have a great
interest in Bobby Fischer. Since she is in a better situation to judge
him, I ask her questions and she is perfectly free to answer those
questions.

I'm sure she does not need knight Angelo DePalma, galloping on his
horse, to come to her rescue.
Peter
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Old October 13th 03, 01:54 PM
GM Susan Polgar
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Dear Peter,

Of course I would want to play chess against Bobby. I love to compete
against all World Champions and top players. That is what chess
players do, play and compete That is my chess player side. I have
respect for all World Champions for what they have done over the
board.

One of the most special moments in my chess career was when Misha Tal
played against me. He was playing in a tournament. I was a spectator
of his game. I told my mother that I would love to have a chance to
play a few blitz games against him. She decided to tell him. A few
minutes later, he offered his opponent a draw to come out to play many
blitz games against me [Don't ask me for the score either but I am
proud of how I did ] I was a very young and inexperienced player at
that time. But it did not matter to him. This is something I would
never forget.

However, being a great chess player does not make you a great role
model. Same goes with athletes in other sports. That is why I like
to conduct myself appropriately at all times. I am more proud of
making positive impacts for the game and be a great role model for
young children (especially girls) than winning chess titles. That is
why my friends and I are working very hard to change the industry for
the better. As my business manager has stated many times before,
chess in America will change dramatically for the better in 2004. I
am quite confident of that.

I have never listened to Bobby's interviews on the radio. We are
chess players. This is a chess forum. Let's only judge Bobby (the
World Champion) for what he has accomplished in chess.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org





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"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message m...
"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
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Susan,


I don't think he would want me to let the world know the actual score. All

I can say is I am very proud of my score and I am quite confident that Bobby
changed his mind about Women's Chess after that.

Then you must have beaten him or at least played even, which is quite
possible taken into account your and his age and the nature of the games:
Blitz games. By the way, did you use the Fischer-clock? In one of the
radio-interviews Fischer says he wants his clock back!



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Dear Peter,

I still won't say what the score was unless Bobby gives me the OK to
do so
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He did not play either of my sisters. Bobby is a charming person if he

did not talk about those few topics we all know about. For most part, we
stayed away from those topics.

That's very hard to understand. Hans Ree in New in Chess: ". this touched
on a strange riddle: how does he reconcile his rabid anti-Semitism with his
personal relations with the Jews?" Didn't Fischer consider you as Jewish?



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Yes, he knows very well that I am Jewish. I did not agree with what
he said and I changed topics. I don't know why others don't stay out
of these topics. His remarks in certain topics can be disturbing.
But, I view him as a World Champion and I respect his chess abilities.
He should be known and respected for what he has accomplished on the
chess board. Let's leave the other issues be.
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Many people have exploited their knowledge of Bobby for personal and
financial gains. Look at all the books and movies using his name. I
have first hand knowledge but I don't think it is ethical to use my
friendship with him to gain financially without his consent. I also
don't think it is right to use his emotions and outburst to sell
stories. If I ever decide to do any project relating to Bobby, I
would want his consent.
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I have great respect for Bobby's chess skills and I wish him the best
with his life as well as being a Dad. He was very nice to me and my
family.


In a Dutch documentary on Fischer, Sofia is much more negative. She wishes
she never had met Bobby Fischer. You two really differ that much in opinion?


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So is the world. If I only talk to him about those issues, I would
probably have the same opinion as Sofia. But as I said, I stayed away
from it. For many, they don't like what he said but they keep
bringing the same issues up. Battle of words will not help anyone as
we see from some in this forum. I admire the good things about him
and leave the other stuff out.
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Best Regards,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org
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Best regards, Peter van der Hoog

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Old October 13th 03, 02:35 PM
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I am amazed she responded to you. It shows she has a warm heart
indeed. If people like this are on Sherzer's side then Sherzer
couldn't have been the monster he was portrayed to be. Yeah he
screwed up royally but you know who your friends are at times like
this. His " true " friends didn't abandon him.

EZoto
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Old October 13th 03, 06:32 PM
Peter van der Hoog
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"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
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Dear Susan,

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I am more proud of making positive impacts for the game and be a great role
model for young children (especially girls) than winning chess titles. That
is why my friends and I are working very hard to change the industry for
the better. As my business manager has stated many times before, chess in
America will change dramatically for the better in 2004. I am quite
confident of that.
---------------------------------------------------------

I wish you lots of success.

I have never listened to Bobby's interviews on the radio.

That explains a lot.

We are chess players. This is a chess forum.

Then here is a chess-related question: Why is there such an enormous gap
between Judit and the next woman on the chess-rating list? Is Judit so
special?

Best regards,
Peter



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Old October 13th 03, 10:11 PM
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Well said We did not abandon Alex. His friends may scream at him
behind closed door but we support him. Some very important things
that we treasu Trust, Loyalty, Integrity and Honesty, etc.
Unfortunately, we see many people sold their souls for personal and
political gains in our chess community. People like Susan is one in a
million. Hope you and your family are doing well.

Best Regards,
Paul


EZoto wrote in message ws.com...
I am amazed she responded to you. It shows she has a warm heart
indeed. If people like this are on Sherzer's side then Sherzer
couldn't have been the monster he was portrayed to be. Yeah he
screwed up royally but you know who your friends are at times like
this. His " true " friends didn't abandon him.

EZoto

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Old October 13th 03, 10:20 PM
GM Susan Polgar
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Judit is very special. She is one of the hardest worker in chess. It
is not easy to train day in day out for 20-25 years. Talent alone
without hard work won't do it. She sacrificed a lot to get to where
she is right now and I am very proud of her. Family support is also
very important.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org


"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message m...
"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
om...

Dear Susan,

---------------------------------------------------------
I am more proud of making positive impacts for the game and be a great role
model for young children (especially girls) than winning chess titles. That
is why my friends and I are working very hard to change the industry for
the better. As my business manager has stated many times before, chess in
America will change dramatically for the better in 2004. I am quite
confident of that.
---------------------------------------------------------

I wish you lots of success.

I have never listened to Bobby's interviews on the radio.

That explains a lot.

We are chess players. This is a chess forum.

Then here is a chess-related question: Why is there such an enormous gap
between Judit and the next woman on the chess-rating list? Is Judit so
special?

Best regards,
Peter

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Old October 13th 03, 11:15 PM
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In article ,
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Judit is very special. She is one of the hardest worker in chess. It
is not easy to train day in day out for 20-25 years. Talent alone
without hard work won't do it. She sacrificed a lot to get to where
she is right now and I am very proud of her. Family support is also
very important.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org


This is all well and good. But how do you explain the lone rising star
of Kateryna Lahno? Why ONLY someone of her caliber is able to reach as
far as she could? She is the only other woman I can think of that can be
considered another Judit Polgar. But this is because she makes it a
point to avoid playing women only tournaments. Is there something to be
learned by this? Or is there still a reason why women chess tournaments
still exist? I'm all for bringing up the quality of women playing chess
but something has to be done to speed up the process. If I was in
Kirsan's shoes I'd make the bold suggestion to bring the best women
chess players to compete alongside the usual contestants for the World
Championship. Players like Alisa Maric, Galliamova, Skripchenko, Paehtz
and Kosteniuk should have the same chance to fight for the World Chess
championship title. Even you, GM Susan Polgar could win the World
championship under such a rule change. But even if none of the
contestants I mentioned win...at least their inclusion in the FIDE world
championship cycles would open the door more widely for women players
and give them the inspiration to play against the men more. This would
help narrow the gap between men and women much faster.

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Old October 14th 03, 02:22 AM
GM Susan Polgar
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Already discussed this in my ChessCafe.com column Last year, Humpy
Koneru was replacing Judit. This year, it is Lahno. Next year, there
will be talk of someone else. I have heard this for 30 years. Many
women reached 2400-2500 level. The question is will they have the
support or intensity to reach the next level? Will there be any
motivation for them to do so? When was the last time the Women's
World Championship held?

There are many things that can be done, but who is going to do it?
USCF? FIDE? With what money and whose money? For every issue that
was brought up here, there are 10-20-30 different opinions. No good
promoter can survive the chess politicians. In the mean time, stay
tune for 2004

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org




Alberich wrote in message ...
In article ,
says...
Judit is very special. She is one of the hardest worker in chess. It
is not easy to train day in day out for 20-25 years. Talent alone
without hard work won't do it. She sacrificed a lot to get to where
she is right now and I am very proud of her. Family support is also
very important.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org


This is all well and good. But how do you explain the lone rising star
of Kateryna Lahno? Why ONLY someone of her caliber is able to reach as
far as she could? She is the only other woman I can think of that can be
considered another Judit Polgar. But this is because she makes it a
point to avoid playing women only tournaments. Is there something to be
learned by this? Or is there still a reason why women chess tournaments
still exist? I'm all for bringing up the quality of women playing chess
but something has to be done to speed up the process. If I was in
Kirsan's shoes I'd make the bold suggestion to bring the best women
chess players to compete alongside the usual contestants for the World
Championship. Players like Alisa Maric, Galliamova, Skripchenko, Paehtz
and Kosteniuk should have the same chance to fight for the World Chess
championship title. Even you, GM Susan Polgar could win the World
championship under such a rule change. But even if none of the
contestants I mentioned win...at least their inclusion in the FIDE world
championship cycles would open the door more widely for women players
and give them the inspiration to play against the men more. This would
help narrow the gap between men and women much faster.

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Old October 14th 03, 05:00 AM
Alberich
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You seem to be suggesting the situation is hopeless. No matter how
talented the women players are, there doesn't seem to be an end to the
obstacles they have to traverse in order to be taken seriously. Even
when your sister Judit Polgar finally beat Gary Kasparov recently, it
was pointed out the game was only rapid time controls.

And with all due respect GM Susan Polgar, I think your sister has to do
more. She's been an exemplary example of how a chess player should
conduct herself in the public arena. She's thoughtful, engaging and
intelligent. But unfortunately (and this is just my opinion),I believe
Judit Polgar doesn't know how to play the "political game" of chess.
Granted, it's possible she has no desire to muddy her hands in the dirty
political backwaters in the chess world. But for the sake of women chess
players, I believe Judit has to do more. She must take a stand against
FIDE and force it to wake up. She doesn't have to do this alone. She has
family like yourself to help her. But for goodness sake, GM Susan
Polgar...this situation with women chess players lagging behind the men
has to stop. The "nerdiness' charge alone about the game would go away
if your sister would take up the sad, but necessary step of publicity
for the game's sake. The wonders it would do for the chess world if
Judit Polgar were interviewed by Katie Couric is priceless. And I've
always wondered why Judit Polgar HASN'T been interviewed by Katie
Couric. I can't imagine why it SHOULDN'T happen. Especially now.

With all the backstabbing going on due to the controversies of
Ponomariov, Kramnik-Leko and Kasparov is enough to make anyone throw up
their hands in disgust. But your sister can put an end to that. Her
recent match with Anand should have been televised live on ESPN. That
would have done wonders for chess. I don't understand why it wasn't. At
least that match wouldn't have made people fall asleep like it did for
me during the Kasparov Deep Junior match. But what do we get instead? A
mind numbing 17 hours coverage of Kasparov against Deep Fritz in 3D! You
think people starting to get interested in chess will be at all
impressed with this game if the time control is 40 moves in 2 hours per
game?! That amounts to over 4 hours of staring at the computer screen or
television! Correct me if I'm wrong here GM Susan Polgar, but your
sister played Anand in the 8 game blitz match in Mainz at 25 minutes per
side. That's 50 minutes per game. Far more appealing for TV advertisers
and sponsors.

In sum...FIDE is not going to go out of its way to modernize the way
chess gets presented to the world. It's going to take someone like
yourself and your sister to rouse FIDE from its slumber. Otherwise women
chess players will never be taken seriously and may never get the chance
to compete fairly for the world chess championship.





In article ,
says...
Already discussed this in my ChessCafe.com column Last year, Humpy
Koneru was replacing Judit. This year, it is Lahno. Next year, there
will be talk of someone else. I have heard this for 30 years. Many
women reached 2400-2500 level. The question is will they have the
support or intensity to reach the next level? Will there be any
motivation for them to do so? When was the last time the Women's
World Championship held?

There are many things that can be done, but who is going to do it?
USCF? FIDE? With what money and whose money? For every issue that
was brought up here, there are 10-20-30 different opinions. No good
promoter can survive the chess politicians. In the mean time, stay
tune for 2004

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org




Alberich wrote in message ...
In article ,
says...
Judit is very special. She is one of the hardest worker in chess. It
is not easy to train day in day out for 20-25 years. Talent alone
without hard work won't do it. She sacrificed a lot to get to where
she is right now and I am very proud of her. Family support is also
very important.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org


This is all well and good. But how do you explain the lone rising star
of Kateryna Lahno? Why ONLY someone of her caliber is able to reach as
far as she could? She is the only other woman I can think of that can be
considered another Judit Polgar. But this is because she makes it a
point to avoid playing women only tournaments. Is there something to be
learned by this? Or is there still a reason why women chess tournaments
still exist? I'm all for bringing up the quality of women playing chess
but something has to be done to speed up the process. If I was in
Kirsan's shoes I'd make the bold suggestion to bring the best women
chess players to compete alongside the usual contestants for the World
Championship. Players like Alisa Maric, Galliamova, Skripchenko, Paehtz
and Kosteniuk should have the same chance to fight for the World Chess
championship title. Even you, GM Susan Polgar could win the World
championship under such a rule change. But even if none of the
contestants I mentioned win...at least their inclusion in the FIDE world
championship cycles would open the door more widely for women players
and give them the inspiration to play against the men more. This would
help narrow the gap between men and women much faster.

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