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Who was the WEAKEST ***WOMEN'S*** World Champion of Chess ever?



 
 
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Old October 10th 03, 07:39 PM
GM Susan Polgar
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Default Who was the WEAKEST ***WOMEN'S*** World Champion of Chess ever?

1) Back in '72 I thought it would have been clever of Fischer to have
played
1. d4 versus Spassky. Actually I think in one game he did reach a
Q-side type
position by transposition and won nicely.
2) There have been many rumors that you've played Fischer at least
one or
two speed games.. and beat him. Is that true?

RSHaas


Dear RSHaas,

That is not a rumor. It is widely known. Bobby used to stay at our
summer home. We did play quite a number of games but not chess. We
played Fischer Random.

I don't think he would want me to let the world know the actual score.
All I can say is I am very proud of my score and I am quite confident
that Bobby changed his mind about Women's Chess after that.

He did not play either of my sisters. Bobby is a charming person if
he did not talk about those few topics we all know about. For most
part, we stayed away from those topics.

I have great respect for Bobby's chess skills and I wish him the best
with his life as well as being a Dad. He was very nice to me and my
family.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org
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Old October 12th 03, 11:53 AM
Peter van der Hoog
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"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
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Susan,



I don't think he would want me to let the world know the actual score. All

I can say is I am very proud of my score and I am quite confident that Bobby
changed his mind about Women's Chess after that.



Then you must have beaten him or at least played even, which is quite
possible taken into account your and his age and the nature of the games:
Blitz games. By the way, did you use the Fischer-clock? In one of the
radio-interviews Fischer says he wants his clock back!


He did not play either of my sisters. Bobby is a charming person if he

did not talk about those few topics we all know about. For most part, we
stayed away from those topics.



That's very hard to understand. Hans Ree in New in Chess: ". this touched
on a strange riddle: how does he reconcile his rabid anti-Semitism with his
personal relations with the Jews?" Didn't Fischer consider you as Jewish?



I have great respect for Bobby's chess skills and I wish him the best
with his life as well as being a Dad. He was very nice to me and my
family.




In a Dutch documentary on Fischer, Sofia is much more negative. She wishes
she never had met Bobby Fischer. You two really differ that much in opinion?



Best regards, Peter van der Hoog


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Old October 12th 03, 04:08 PM
GM Susan Polgar
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"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message m...
"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
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Susan,


I don't think he would want me to let the world know the actual score. All

I can say is I am very proud of my score and I am quite confident that Bobby
changed his mind about Women's Chess after that.

Then you must have beaten him or at least played even, which is quite
possible taken into account your and his age and the nature of the games:
Blitz games. By the way, did you use the Fischer-clock? In one of the
radio-interviews Fischer says he wants his clock back!



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Dear Peter,

I still won't say what the score was unless Bobby gives me the OK to
do so
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He did not play either of my sisters. Bobby is a charming person if he

did not talk about those few topics we all know about. For most part, we
stayed away from those topics.

That's very hard to understand. Hans Ree in New in Chess: ". this touched
on a strange riddle: how does he reconcile his rabid anti-Semitism with his
personal relations with the Jews?" Didn't Fischer consider you as Jewish?



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Yes, he knows very well that I am Jewish. I did not agree with what
he said and I changed topics. I don't know why others don't stay out
of these topics. His remarks in certain topics can be disturbing.
But, I view him as a World Champion and I respect his chess abilities.
He should be known and respected for what he has accomplished on the
chess board. Let's leave the other issues be.
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Many people have exploited their knowledge of Bobby for personal and
financial gains. Look at all the books and movies using his name. I
have first hand knowledge but I don't think it is ethical to use my
friendship with him to gain financially without his consent. I also
don't think it is right to use his emotions and outburst to sell
stories. If I ever decide to do any project relating to Bobby, I
would want his consent.
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I have great respect for Bobby's chess skills and I wish him the best
with his life as well as being a Dad. He was very nice to me and my
family.


In a Dutch documentary on Fischer, Sofia is much more negative. She wishes
she never had met Bobby Fischer. You two really differ that much in opinion?


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So is the world. If I only talk to him about those issues, I would
probably have the same opinion as Sofia. But as I said, I stayed away
from it. For many, they don't like what he said but they keep
bringing the same issues up. Battle of words will not help anyone as
we see from some in this forum. I admire the good things about him
and leave the other stuff out.
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Best Regards,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org
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Best regards, Peter van der Hoog

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Old October 12th 03, 07:48 PM
Rolf Tueschen
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Default A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr. Sherzer

Dear Mrs. Susan Polgar,
I kow you since you played i the Dortmund GM tournament, where I also talked to
your very friendly mother, please give her driendly greetings from Germany.

I have a question for you, not connected to the topic of this thread. It's
about the recent Dr. Sherzer case. I read that he was often as a friend at home
with you in Budapest. So you and or your sister participated to the court
trial.

My exact question is:

How could you give any character testimonial for your GM collegue, who had
admittedly chatted with a 15 y. old underaged teenager, also using X-RATED
vocabulary and who then confessed that he was under way to visit the girl with
the intention of sexual contacts ad with a suitcase in his hands who contained
sexual toys, condoms and alcohol? How could you know something about his
strange misbehaviour?

I kow well that he was entrapped, but he admitted that he had done something
very wrong. So - basically he was acquitted, not because he was innocent but
because of technical defects in a court trial.

Could you clarify your standpoint towards this IMO very confused medical
doctor?

All the best to your furure in the US women chess team, sincerely,

Rolf Tueschen
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Old October 12th 03, 08:37 PM
Jerome Bibuld
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Default A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr. Sherzer

Dear GM Polgar,

Heil Dubya!

I notice that you frequently respond to questions put directly to you, even
when the questioner is an obvious troll. GM Sherzer has suffered enough as a
result of his persecution by this sick society. I ask, therefore, that, in
this case, you forego your usual openess and simply not respond to the obvious
troll of Herr Tueschen. It is beneath contempt. Your response will grant it
dignity it does not deserve and may open up another can-of-worms thread.

Subject: A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr.
Sherzer
From: (Rolf Tueschen)
Date: 2003-10-12 1:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Dear Mrs. Susan Polgar,
I kow you since you played i the Dortmund GM tournament, where I also talked
to
your very friendly mother, please give her driendly greetings from Germany.

I have a question for you, not connected to the topic of this thread. It's
about the recent Dr. Sherzer case. I read that he was often as a friend at
home
with you in Budapest. So you and or your sister participated to the court
trial.

My exact question is:

How could you give any character testimonial for your GM collegue, who had
admittedly chatted with a 15 y. old underaged teenager, also using X-RATED
vocabulary and who then confessed that he was under way to visit the girl
with
the intention of sexual contacts ad with a suitcase in his hands who
contained
sexual toys, condoms and alcohol? How could you know something about his
strange misbehaviour?

I kow well that he was entrapped, but he admitted that he had done something
very wrong. So - basically he was acquitted, not because he was innocent but
because of technical defects in a court trial.

Could you clarify your standpoint towards this IMO very confused medical
doctor?

All the best to your furure in the US women chess team, sincerely,

Rolf Tueschen


Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date if the Reichstag fire!)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
gens una sumus
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Old October 13th 03, 01:20 AM
GM Susan Polgar
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Default A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr. Sherzer

Dear Mr. Tueschen & Jerry,

Let me just tell you my quick thoughts. I know Alex for a long time.
He has made his share of mistakes and he was wrong here. I assure you
that I told him my feelings of what took place. However, knowing a
lot more than most people in this case, it is simply wrong to create
something that was not there in the first place. Please do not always
believe what you read in the newspapers. This costs him money, time,
reputation, etc. Alex has paid for his bad decision dearly and he
will pay for many years to come.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org


ospam (Jerome Bibuld) wrote in message ...
Dear GM Polgar,

Heil Dubya!

I notice that you frequently respond to questions put directly to you, even
when the questioner is an obvious troll. GM Sherzer has suffered enough as a
result of his persecution by this sick society. I ask, therefore, that, in
this case, you forego your usual openess and simply not respond to the obvious
troll of Herr Tueschen. It is beneath contempt. Your response will grant it
dignity it does not deserve and may open up another can-of-worms thread.

Subject: A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr.
Sherzer
From:
(Rolf Tueschen)
Date: 2003-10-12 1:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Dear Mrs. Susan Polgar,
I kow you since you played i the Dortmund GM tournament, where I also talked
to
your very friendly mother, please give her driendly greetings from Germany.

I have a question for you, not connected to the topic of this thread. It's
about the recent Dr. Sherzer case. I read that he was often as a friend at
home
with you in Budapest. So you and or your sister participated to the court
trial.

My exact question is:

How could you give any character testimonial for your GM collegue, who had
admittedly chatted with a 15 y. old underaged teenager, also using X-RATED
vocabulary and who then confessed that he was under way to visit the girl
with
the intention of sexual contacts ad with a suitcase in his hands who
contained
sexual toys, condoms and alcohol? How could you know something about his
strange misbehaviour?

I kow well that he was entrapped, but he admitted that he had done something
very wrong. So - basically he was acquitted, not because he was innocent but
because of technical defects in a court trial.

Could you clarify your standpoint towards this IMO very confused medical
doctor?

All the best to your furure in the US women chess team, sincerely,

Rolf Tueschen


Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date if the Reichstag fire!)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
gens una sumus

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Old October 13th 03, 01:31 AM
GM Susan Polgar
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Default A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr. Sherzer

Dear Mr. Tueschen & Jerry,

Let me just tell you my quick thoughts. I know Alex for a long time.
He has made his share of mistakes and he was wrong here. I assure you
that I told him my feelings of what took place. However, knowing a
lot more than most people in this case, it is simply wrong to create
something that was not there in the first place. Please do not always
believe what you read in the newspapers. This costs him money, time,
reputation, etc. Alex has paid for his bad decision dearly and he
will pay for many years to come.

Best wishes,
GM Susan Polgar
www.SusanPolgar.com
www.USScholasticChess.org


ospam (Jerome Bibuld) wrote in message ...
Dear GM Polgar,

Heil Dubya!

I notice that you frequently respond to questions put directly to you, even
when the questioner is an obvious troll. GM Sherzer has suffered enough as a
result of his persecution by this sick society. I ask, therefore, that, in
this case, you forego your usual openess and simply not respond to the obvious
troll of Herr Tueschen. It is beneath contempt. Your response will grant it
dignity it does not deserve and may open up another can-of-worms thread.

Subject: A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr.
Sherzer
From:
(Rolf Tueschen)
Date: 2003-10-12 1:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Dear Mrs. Susan Polgar,
I kow you since you played i the Dortmund GM tournament, where I also talked
to
your very friendly mother, please give her driendly greetings from Germany.

I have a question for you, not connected to the topic of this thread. It's
about the recent Dr. Sherzer case. I read that he was often as a friend at
home
with you in Budapest. So you and or your sister participated to the court
trial.

My exact question is:

How could you give any character testimonial for your GM collegue, who had
admittedly chatted with a 15 y. old underaged teenager, also using X-RATED
vocabulary and who then confessed that he was under way to visit the girl
with
the intention of sexual contacts ad with a suitcase in his hands who
contained
sexual toys, condoms and alcohol? How could you know something about his
strange misbehaviour?

I kow well that he was entrapped, but he admitted that he had done something
very wrong. So - basically he was acquitted, not because he was innocent but
because of technical defects in a court trial.

Could you clarify your standpoint towards this IMO very confused medical
doctor?

All the best to your furure in the US women chess team, sincerely,

Rolf Tueschen


Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date if the Reichstag fire!)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
gens una sumus

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Old October 13th 03, 01:39 AM
Peter van der Hoog
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"GM Susan Polgar" wrote in message
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Dear Susan,

Would you really still want to play chess against Fischer, despite all the
things he said in the radio-interviews? I wonder who is more remarkable, you
or Fischer!

"If I ever decide to do any project relating to Bobby, I would want his
consent". Either you have a very special contact with Fischer or this is
very naiv. Only a few persons, who spoke publicly about their friendship
with Fischer still have contact with him. I can only think of Benko and
Leko. Perhaps he has a special contact with Hungarians. Do you think Fischer
knew his father came from Hungary?
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I have great respect for Bobby's chess skills and I wish him the best with
his life as well as being a Dad.
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What do you think, should Fischer teach Jinky Ong chess? In my opinion he'd
better teaches his daughter Go. Then she really has a change to become world
champion. Within the first 300 on the international Go-rating list you
already find 15 women. The highest ranked woman (after Judit) on the
chess-rating list is Stefanova Antoaneta on 601. Isn't that worrying?
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He was very nice to me and my family.
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Those three lovely girls softened his heart :-)

Best regards, Peter van der Hoog


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Old October 13th 03, 02:04 AM
Rolf Tueschen
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Default A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr. Sherzer

Dear GM Polgar,

Heil Dubya!

I notice that you frequently respond to questions put directly to you, even
when the questioner is an obvious troll. GM Sherzer has suffered enough as a
result of his persecution by this sick society.


Jerome,
something is corrupt in your message. You talk about gens una sumus and
fraternally, but somehow your message is full of venom. You have a strong
negative opinion against your President Bush. But why identifying him directly
with Hitler? You must be very confused if you compare Sept 11 with the so
called 'Reichsprogromnacht' [official term] against the Jews in Nazi-Germany.
The same here with my question to the GM, Mrs. Polgar.

Who is sick? This US society? And not GM Sherzer, who has chatted with an
alleged 15 y. old girl with X-RATED pornographical speech? And who tried to
meet her with a suitcase full of sex toys and alcohol? He who wanted to have
sex with an underaged girl?

I have a direct interest to hear Mrs. Polgar's opinion and don't call it troll.
Because Dr. Sherzer was just acquitted because of technical defects. That
doesn't mean his innocence!

If you think that society is sick, it's your good right to believe such
nonsense, but you can't expect that people take you for serious. And now get
out of the debate where _adults_ are talking, please. Thank you.

Rolf Tueschen



I ask, therefore, that, in
this case, you forego your usual openess and simply not respond to the
obvious
troll of Herr Tueschen. It is beneath contempt. Your response will grant it
dignity it does not deserve and may open up another can-of-worms thread.


Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date if the Reichstag fire!)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
gens una sumus



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Old October 13th 03, 02:12 AM
Rolf Tueschen
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Default A Question to GM Susan Polgar: Character Testimonial for GM Dr. Sherzer

Dear Mrs. Polgar,
I am very pleased by your thoughtful reply. Indeed this is just what I've
expected from you while I've feared that you might be in a double bind and
wouldn't tell anything at all. For me this is closednow with your answer. Let
me just confirm you that it's very true that I do only know the few newspaper
reports. Anyway, I do sincerely hope that Dr. Sherzer will get over it with
professional help and his private friends.

Again all the best to you and I'm looking forward to a good performance of your
US chess team,

Rolf Tueschen
 




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