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Old October 12th 03, 05:53 PM
chiffres
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August BCM says "Rona Petrosyan, widow of world champion Tigran, died
recently. She was highly instrumental, as a Muscovite, in fostering her
husband's career when he came as a raw youth to the capital. She also
moved heaven and earth to get the two-volume Pergamon book of his
collected games published. The story of her slapping the face of
Suetin, blaming him for Petrosyan's loss to Fischer, is only too well
known."

I cannot remember the incident with Suetin. Can anybody relate the
incident and give the game?


chiffres

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Old October 12th 03, 08:38 PM
Robert Musicant
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"chiffres" wrote in message
.. .
August BCM says "Rona Petrosyan, widow of world champion Tigran, died
recently. She was highly instrumental, as a Muscovite, in fostering her
husband's career when he came as a raw youth to the capital. She also
moved heaven and earth to get the two-volume Pergamon book of his
collected games published. The story of her slapping the face of
Suetin, blaming him for Petrosyan's loss to Fischer, is only too well
known."

I cannot remember the incident with Suetin. Can anybody relate the
incident and give the game?


chiffres


That would be referring to Fischer's 6-1/2 - 2-1/2 victory in the 1971
Candidates Final. I don't know any more details.



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Old October 12th 03, 08:47 PM
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In article ,
says...
August BCM says "Rona Petrosyan, widow of world champion Tigran, died
recently. She was highly instrumental, as a Muscovite, in fostering her
husband's career when he came as a raw youth to the capital. She also
moved heaven and earth to get the two-volume Pergamon book of his
collected games published. The story of her slapping the face of
Suetin, blaming him for Petrosyan's loss to Fischer, is only too well
known."

I cannot remember the incident with Suetin. Can anybody relate the
incident and give the game?


chiffres



I found this interesting so looked around a bit on the web and found the
following posting that while it didn't provide more details, did give
another example her "questionable" behavior.

Marty

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fellow chessplayers,
I consulted my copy of the "The Even More Complete Chess Addict" for
examples of
bad behaviour.

I mentioned Alekhine throwing his King. That happened in Vienna in 1922,
when he
lost to Grunfeld.

First some actions to stop bad behaviour. When Korchnoi and Petrosian
were due
to play
their Candidates elimination match in 1977, the arbiter put a piece of
board
under the table,
so that neither player could kick each other!

Now for the list of outrageous behaviour:

1. Matulovic v Bilek, Sousse 1967

Matulovic took one of his moves back, claiming he was adjusting the
pieces on
the board.
The arbiter let him get away with it.

2. Mecking v Botterill, Hastings 1971-72
In a time scramble, Mecking made his move, pressed his clock, and kept
his hand
on the depressed
button. Botterill was unable to stop his clock, and lost on time.

3. Fischer v Kovacevic, Zagreb 1970

Tigran Petrosian's wife overheard some discussion of how Kovacevic could
win the
game.
She nonchalantly strolled over to the board and gave Kovacevic the
moves!

4. Seret v Andruet, French Championship
An argument developed as to whether or not Andruet resigned before Seret
checkmated him.
After the argument, Andruet needed 8 stitches!

After the game fun:

1. At the Amsterdam tournament in 1950, Reshevsky and Najdorf had a
scuffle
after a game

2. When Fischer defeated Petrosian in the 1971 Candidates match, Mrs
Petrosian
(yes, her again!)
slapped the face of Petrosian's second, GM Alexei Suetin.

My all timne favourite concerns George Treysman, who was a well known
coffee-house player in New York
in the 1930's. He was a rook down, so he pinched a rook from the table
next to
him. He won the game, pocketed
the money, and quickly reset the pieces. The other 3 players were then
trying to
work out what happened?

On a more serious side, I have heard of players memorising a brilliant
game, and
then "playing" it, in the hope
of pocketing the money for the brillaincy prize at the tournament.

I think that is enough for now. Any more suggestions?
Graham
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Old October 12th 03, 09:07 PM
Ian Burton
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"Martin Wilber" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
August BCM says "Rona Petrosyan, widow of world champion Tigran, died
recently. She was highly instrumental, as a Muscovite, in fostering her
husband's career when he came as a raw youth to the capital. She also
moved heaven and earth to get the two-volume Pergamon book of his
collected games published. The story of her slapping the face of
Suetin, blaming him for Petrosyan's loss to Fischer, is only too well
known."

I cannot remember the incident with Suetin. Can anybody relate the
incident and give the game?


chiffres



I found this interesting so looked around a bit on the web and found the
following posting that while it didn't provide more details, did give
another example her "questionable" behavior.

Marty

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fellow chessplayers,
I consulted my copy of the "The Even More Complete Chess Addict" for
examples of
bad behaviour.

I mentioned Alekhine throwing his King. That happened in Vienna in 1922,
when he
lost to Grunfeld.

First some actions to stop bad behaviour. When Korchnoi and Petrosian
were due
to play
their Candidates elimination match in 1977, the arbiter put a piece of
board
under the table,
so that neither player could kick each other!

Now for the list of outrageous behaviour:

1. Matulovic v Bilek, Sousse 1967

Matulovic took one of his moves back, claiming he was adjusting the
pieces on
the board.
The arbiter let him get away with it.

2. Mecking v Botterill, Hastings 1971-72
In a time scramble, Mecking made his move, pressed his clock, and kept
his hand
on the depressed
button. Botterill was unable to stop his clock, and lost on time.

3. Fischer v Kovacevic, Zagreb 1970

Tigran Petrosian's wife overheard some discussion of how Kovacevic could
win the
game.
She nonchalantly strolled over to the board and gave Kovacevic the
moves!

4. Seret v Andruet, French Championship
An argument developed as to whether or not Andruet resigned before Seret
checkmated him.
After the argument, Andruet needed 8 stitches!

After the game fun:

1. At the Amsterdam tournament in 1950, Reshevsky and Najdorf had a
scuffle
after a game

2. When Fischer defeated Petrosian in the 1971 Candidates match, Mrs
Petrosian
(yes, her again!)
slapped the face of Petrosian's second, GM Alexei Suetin.

My all timne favourite concerns George Treysman, who was a well known
coffee-house player in New York
in the 1930's. He was a rook down, so he pinched a rook from the table
next to
him. He won the game, pocketed
the money, and quickly reset the pieces. The other 3 players were then
trying to
work out what happened?

On a more serious side, I have heard of players memorising a brilliant
game, and
then "playing" it, in the hope
of pocketing the money for the brillaincy prize at the tournament.

I think that is enough for now. Any more suggestions?
Graham


I was a witness to the match, held at the Manhattan Chess Club, between
Reshevsky and Donald Byrne. During a time scramble early in the match,
Norma (I think it was Norma) Reshevsky, Sammy's wife, cried out: "Sammy, his
flag fell!" Reshevsky immediately claimed the game.

Nona Petrosyan was not the only wife who took a bit too much interest in her
husband's games.
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Old October 12th 03, 10:47 PM
Wijnand Engelkes
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1.
Suetin doesn't mention the incident himself in his book on Petrosian.
(German title: Tigran Petrosjan, Die Karriere eines Schachgenies)
2.
There's a book of I. Kuperman, former world international draughts champion,
on his (K's) carreer, mentioning the Petrosian family quite a few times.
The title of the book, in Dutch, is: Damgeheim Staatsgeheim. I doubt if it's
published in English. If I translate the Dutch title into English, I would
get something like "Draughts secret State secret"


"chiffres" wrote in message
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August BCM says "Rona Petrosyan, widow of world champion Tigran, died
recently. She was highly instrumental, as a Muscovite, in fostering her
husband's career when he came as a raw youth to the capital. She also
moved heaven and earth to get the two-volume Pergamon book of his
collected games published. The story of her slapping the face of
Suetin, blaming him for Petrosyan's loss to Fischer, is only too well
known."

I cannot remember the incident with Suetin. Can anybody relate the
incident and give the game?


chiffres

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