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Old October 16th 03, 11:26 PM
Phil Innes
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In 1999 the Russian Federation Board Members challenged the USCF Board to a
match which was, erm, declined. Now, three and a half years later, the
gauntlet has been returned by a representative of the current board in
proper Greek style.

ROFL!!!@

Why did I ever get involved in this ?

For serious chess historians, has there ever been a match between two
national boards governing chess, or are we making history here?

Of course, this is a great broadcast opportunity if neither side chickens
out - we are currently comparing ELOs.

Cordially, Phil innes


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Old October 17th 03, 03:47 AM
Spam Scone
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"Phil Innes" wrote in message ...
In 1999 the Russian Federation Board Members challenged the USCF Board to a
match which was, erm, declined. Now, three and a half years later, the
gauntlet has been returned by a representative of the current board in
proper Greek style.

ROFL!!!@

Why did I ever get involved in this ?

For serious chess historians, has there ever been a match between two
national boards governing chess, or are we making history here?

Of course, this is a great broadcast opportunity if neither side chickens
out - we are currently comparing ELOs.

Cordially, Phil innes


Here's some history on Phil Innes. A year ago he wrote:

The FBI are monitoring this thread [and others] because of of a certain
incidence of Neil Brennen's abuse stimulating much more acuitous ones from
anons. The particular threas that you continue to initiate or make
contributrions to, then participate in by suggestive abuse, involve actions
against female members of my family.

Nice Mr. Frank Niro posted my home address in front of a rascist stalker,
just before the USCF hoo-hah about Fischer's rascism. This is the truth
which Brennen once regretted crocodile tears but now he thinks he is safe
to gloss over!

The FBI will possibly in touch with you Brennen; for your own expressions
seem to inexplicably engender abuse of others (not only myself). But for
myself, I simply offer you the reflection that their are sharper things than
wit.

And if you **** with me and mine I will certainly make entirely sure you
understand me without a shadow of a doubt. I am possibly over my
petit-fascist tolerancing line.

Is this sufficiently clear?
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Old October 17th 03, 12:05 PM
Phil Innes
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Neil, not everyone with a family thinks stalking is very funny.

If it your intention to initiate and continue purely personal invective,
totally off-topic to the nominal subject then whatever evidence there is for
my previous statements tends to be confirmed or otherwise by what actually
happens in these threads, no?

This thread topic is a prospective national board-to-board chess match. As a
chess historian can you or anyone else provide an answer to its precedent?

Cordially, Phil Innes

"Spam Scone" wrote in message
om...
"Phil Innes" wrote in message

...
In 1999 the Russian Federation Board Members challenged the USCF Board

to a
match which was, erm, declined. Now, three and a half years later, the
gauntlet has been returned by a representative of the current board in
proper Greek style.

ROFL!!!@

Why did I ever get involved in this ?

For serious chess historians, has there ever been a match between two
national boards governing chess, or are we making history here?

Of course, this is a great broadcast opportunity if neither side

chickens
out - we are currently comparing ELOs.

Cordially, Phil innes


Here's some history on Phil Innes. A year ago he wrote:

The FBI are monitoring this thread [and others] because of of a certain
incidence of Neil Brennen's abuse stimulating much more acuitous ones from
anons. The particular threas that you continue to initiate or make
contributrions to, then participate in by suggestive abuse, involve

actions
against female members of my family.

Nice Mr. Frank Niro posted my home address in front of a rascist stalker,
just before the USCF hoo-hah about Fischer's rascism. This is the truth
which Brennen once regretted crocodile tears but now he thinks he is

safe
to gloss over!

The FBI will possibly in touch with you Brennen; for your own expressions
seem to inexplicably engender abuse of others (not only myself). But for
myself, I simply offer you the reflection that their are sharper things

than
wit.

And if you **** with me and mine I will certainly make entirely sure you
understand me without a shadow of a doubt. I am possibly over my
petit-fascist tolerancing line.

Is this sufficiently clear?



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Old October 18th 03, 06:56 PM
Spam Scone
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"Phil Innes" wrote in message ...
Neil, not everyone with a family thinks stalking is very funny.


Not everyone thinks threats of violence against other posters is very
funny either, Phil. Your return to RGCP is only a prelude to a return
to your usual posting style, which consists of threats, lies, and
bullying.

If it your intention to initiate and continue purely personal invective,
totally off-topic to the nominal subject then whatever evidence there is for
my previous statements tends to be confirmed or otherwise by what actually
happens in these threads, no?


No, not at all. But I think newcomers who may be seduced by the
goody-goody persona you are adopting on your return to RGCP may need
to be educated about your past performances.

This thread topic is a prospective national board-to-board chess match. As a
chess historian can you or anyone else provide an answer to its precedent?
Cordially, Phil Innes


I personally don't know of a prior match. This doesn't mean that there
hasn't been one.


"Spam Scone" wrote in message
om...
"Phil Innes" wrote in message

...
In 1999 the Russian Federation Board Members challenged the USCF Board

to a
match which was, erm, declined. Now, three and a half years later, the
gauntlet has been returned by a representative of the current board in
proper Greek style.

ROFL!!!@

Why did I ever get involved in this ?

For serious chess historians, has there ever been a match between two
national boards governing chess, or are we making history here?

Of course, this is a great broadcast opportunity if neither side

chickens
out - we are currently comparing ELOs.

Cordially, Phil innes


Here's some history on Phil Innes. A year ago he wrote:

The FBI are monitoring this thread [and others] because of of a certain
incidence of Neil Brennen's abuse stimulating much more acuitous ones from
anons. The particular threas that you continue to initiate or make
contributrions to, then participate in by suggestive abuse, involve

actions
against female members of my family.

Nice Mr. Frank Niro posted my home address in front of a rascist stalker,
just before the USCF hoo-hah about Fischer's rascism. This is the truth
which Brennen once regretted crocodile tears but now he thinks he is

safe
to gloss over!

The FBI will possibly in touch with you Brennen; for your own expressions
seem to inexplicably engender abuse of others (not only myself). But for
myself, I simply offer you the reflection that their are sharper things

than
wit.

And if you **** with me and mine I will certainly make entirely sure you
understand me without a shadow of a doubt. I am possibly over my
petit-fascist tolerancing line.

Is this sufficiently clear?

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Old October 18th 03, 10:22 PM
Phil Innes
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"Spam Scone" wrote in message
om...
"Phil Innes" wrote in message

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Neil, not everyone with a family thinks stalking is very funny.


Not everyone thinks threats of violence against other posters is very
funny either, Phil. Your return to RGCP is only a prelude to a return
to your usual posting style, which consists of threats, lies, and
bullying.


Neil - I hope to avoid threats and lies and so on, even the impression of
it. Can you understand what it means to a family man when his family is
attacked? - Odd phone calls in the night, and so on? Even your friend Stan
responded the same as myself on this issue, and I think as any man would -
though it may seem uncouth - it is an extraordinarily strong emotion.

If it your intention to initiate and continue purely personal invective,
totally off-topic to the nominal subject then whatever evidence there is

for
my previous statements tends to be confirmed or otherwise by what

actually
happens in these threads, no?


No, not at all. But I think newcomers who may be seduced by the
goody-goody persona you are adopting on your return to RGCP may need
to be educated about your past performances.


Indeed, I hope you will keep everyone alert to brown-nosing opportunists!


This thread topic is a prospective national board-to-board chess match.

As a
chess historian can you or anyone else provide an answer to its

precedent?
Cordially, Phil Innes


I personally don't know of a prior match. This doesn't mean that there
hasn't been one.


Frankly, I don't even know where to look for a precedent. Half a dozen chess
anthologies don't cite any references at all. I wrote a dozen people I
thought might know something before posting here - everyone came up blank.

Now, look you, Neil, we have not exactly hit it off ever before, except for
a few brief messages that we exchanged privately. I was always glad that you
never wrote anything of that in public, and I ever respected this. I hope I
managed to do the same by you.

Please continue to be critical both of my ideas and your intuition of
motive - which I think is a strong thing with you - something I will even
take your Shakespearian correspondent to task about should he respond - I
entirely support your right to express yourself, even though you and I get
into difficulties with it - it is better said than not.

Cordially, Phil


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Old October 20th 03, 11:17 AM
Spam Scone
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(Nick) wrote in message . com...
(Spam Scone) wrote in message . com...
Here's some history on Phil Innes....


Dear Mr. Brennen:

In the thread, "Civility" (25 April 2003), you wrote:
"How much longer till Nick starts writing entirely in lowercase, begins
misquoting Latin, French, and Cornish, and makes threats against other
posters, ala the late Phil Innes."

If Phil Innes today is not yet "late", then your statement was too early.
Why did you conclude what you did about "the late Phil Innes"?


I meant "late of this newsgroup".

When you wrote that, presumably you knew less about me than you may know now.
Apart from several trolls and Kevin Bachler (about whom I expect you may be
able to understand), I have been able to get on at least tolerably well with
other writers here. I would appreciate it if you could acknowledge that I
have not been "writing entirely in lowercase", not been "misquoting Latin,
French, or Cornish", and--most importantly--*not* been making any "threats
against other posters". Thanks in advance.


I acknowledge that you have not been "writing entirely in lowercase",
not been "misquoting Latin, French, or Cornish", and *not* been making
any "threats against other posters".

I hope that Mr. Innes and you will be able to settle your differences with
mutual satisfaction. Best wishes.

"If only people would not talk till they knew, the world would be a much
nicer place."
--Olive Schreiner (Undine)

--Nick

 




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