I bought a few Dover Books from amazon. They seem to be cheap partly because
they are in descriptive notation, but as I was brought up on that it's not
too much of a problem and they are truly excellent value. At the moment I'm
going through The Art of the Checkmate. Very informative. Anyway, my
question: in one of the games White plays the move
7. KKn-B6ch.
Now that's not too much of a problem as it's in the first 10 moves so I've
still got some vague idea about which is the KKn and which is the QKn, but
what about, say,
83. KKn-B6ch
Am I the only player who doesn't keep track of which Knight is which for 83
moves? I realise there is an alternative notation of say Kn(K4)-B6ch. When
does the KKn become Kn(K4)? What are the conventions?

cheers

dd

"DDEckerslyke" wrote in message
...
I bought a few Dover Books from amazon. They seem to be cheap partly
because
they are in descriptive notation, but as I was brought up on that it's not
too much of a problem and they are truly excellent value. At the moment
I'm
going through The Art of the Checkmate. Very informative. Anyway, my
question: in one of the games White plays the move
7. KKn-B6ch.
Now that's not too much of a problem as it's in the first 10 moves so I've
still got some vague idea about which is the KKn and which is the QKn, but
what about, say,
83. KKn-B6ch
Am I the only player who doesn't keep track of which Knight is which for
83
moves? I realise there is an alternative notation of say Kn(K4)-B6ch. When
does the KKn become Kn(K4)? What are the conventions?

cheers

dd

First of all, it either says KN or KKt, not KKn, right?

Have you actually seen 83.KKt-B6 ch? I would guess that it is only in
situations where it is obvious which is the KN and which is the QN that you
would see that; you are worrying about a situation that never arises in
practice. And my preferred usage is that, say KN-Q2 or QN-Q2 would only be
used where one N remains on its starting square or where each N has made no
more than one move from its starting square. Otherwise it would be N(K4)-B6
ch.

"Bob Musicant" wrote in message
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"DDEckerslyke" wrote in message
...
I bought a few Dover Books from amazon. They seem to be cheap partly
because
they are in descriptive notation, but as I was brought up on that it's
not
too much of a problem and they are truly excellent value. At the moment
I'm
going through The Art of the Checkmate. Very informative. Anyway, my
question: in one of the games White plays the move
7. KKn-B6ch.
Now that's not too much of a problem as it's in the first 10 moves so
I've
still got some vague idea about which is the KKn and which is the QKn,
but
what about, say,
83. KKn-B6ch
Am I the only player who doesn't keep track of which Knight is which for
83
moves? I realise there is an alternative notation of say Kn(K4)-B6ch.
When
does the KKn become Kn(K4)? What are the conventions?

cheers

dd

First of all, it either says KN or KKt, not KKn, right?

Have you actually seen 83.KKt-B6 ch? I would guess that it is only in
situations where it is obvious which is the KN and which is the QN that
you
would see that; you are worrying about a situation that never arises in
practice. And my preferred usage is that, say KN-Q2 or QN-Q2 would only
be
used where one N remains on its starting square or where each N has made
no
more than one move from its starting square. Otherwise it would be
N(K4)-B6
ch.

Many moons ago, Al Simonson, truly a name from the past, taught me to point
my King's Knight to the right, and my Queen's Knight to the left. It's a
habit I never lost. Seeing the move 83. KN-B6+ would not faze me at all!
--
Ian Burton
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"Bob Musicant" wrote in message
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First of all, it either says KN or KKt, not KKn, right?

Right. My mistake. IIRC it's KN.

Have you actually seen 83.KKt-B6 ch?

Nope. I just used it to illustrate my question.

I would guess that it is only in
situations where it is obvious which is the KN and which is the QN that
you
would see that; you are worrying about a situation that never arises in
practice. And my preferred usage is that, say KN-Q2 or QN-Q2 would only
be
used where one N remains on its starting square or where each N has made
no
more than one move from its starting square. Otherwise it would be
N(K4)-B6
ch.

Sounds good to me.

cheers

dd

Right and Jaques sets have the crown stamped on top of the kings' knights and
rooks to remove all confusion.

Ian Burton wrote:


Many moons ago, Al Simonson, truly a name from the past, taught me to point
my King's Knight to the right, and my Queen's Knight to the left. It's a
habit I never lost. Seeing the move 83. KN-B6+ would not faze me at all!
--
Ian Burton
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No no no!

The knights are supposed to face towards the interior of the board, to
their king's and queen's.

That is the only way.

:-)

GreenPencil wrote:

No no no!

The knights are supposed to face towards the interior of the board, to
their king's and queen's.

That is the only way.

That's the way I always set mine up, and it's how they're
displayed in many diagrams. Most of my opponents, however,
adjust them to face forwards, which I dislike. In that
position they look too much like bishops! ;-)