You're not only paranoid but also a psychopath, just like the mentioned lying
Jewish *******.

The reason why I put this topic (A Jew and a liar) on rgcm is very simple.

The private forum, where the mentioned psychopath Omid David is spreading his
evil propaganda, is hosted by the biggest chess store in the USA, named
ICDchess.

If the OR is correct, then this is a scandal, that a late German former
Minister can be insulted as 'Nazi *******', but the propaganda liar in return
is NOT allowed to be called a 'lying Jewish *******'.

Hope this helps you but i doubt ir because a psychopath like you can't be
persuaded with facts. He just follows his own agenda.

Know what I mean?

Come out of the closet and tell us what you have to fear, perhaps I can help
you. But stop spreading ridiculous lies about my intentions. I am NO
Anti-Semite. And the whole topic is NOT off-topic because Omid David is a young
computerchess expert who wants to participate in the coming Wch in Graz. He's
NOT a creation of someone's fantasy.

Rolf

(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote in message
. com...(to Greg Kennedy):
NoMoreBrain illspam (NoMoreBrain)
wrote in message ...
Some people just don't get it.

Look, NoMoreBrain, the words "Jew and a liar" are on rgmc repeated by now in
the TITLE of 81 articles in just one thread. Also in other threads on other
newsgroups, which also have nothing to do with politics, Israel, Jews, ...

Dear Wlod,

I concur that the title, "Being a Jew and a Liar", is prima facie evidence of
anti-Semitism by that thread's creator, Rolf Tueschen. Unfortunately, creating
troll threads with offensive titles such as "X is a Liar" is nothing new here.
(I have been the personal target of such threads created by several trolls.)

Yeah, it doesn't take much brain to spill hate propaganda.
Enough of that racist vomit.

You should expect to be disappointed if you were hoping to engage "NoMoreBrain"
(as you call him) in a rational discussion. Greg Kennedy (aka "NoMoreChess")
seems well-known here as an inveterate troll, whose main interest in writing
is "trolling for a flame war" (to quote John Macnab, whom Greg Kennedy kept
calling "Mr. McBad") by making reiterated personal attacks full of his
characteristic distortions, fabrications, or lies.

PS. If we had here an "objective criticism" (read: hate propaganda)
of Portugal, Turkish, Pakistani, Italian... whatever government,
on this chess group, people woulod consider it odd, inappropriate, sick.
But antiSemitism is so spread, so common, so international, that any sick
idiot can indulge himself in "criticizing Jews objectively", and a bunch
of idiots would humor him, even on a chess group. Sick.

If you are contending that there's a *unique* universal acceptance of "hate
propaganda" against Jews that would not be tolerated if expressed against any
other people, then I should have to disagree with you. I have heard ample
"hate propaganda" directed against *many* peoples, not only Jews, and the
worst of that "hate propaganda" has usually *not* been directed against Jews.
For example, I have heard some Europeans, who profess to admire Jews or to be
of Jewish heritage themselves, speak in fiercely racist ways of the 'urgent
need' to 'cleanse' their societies by 'eliminating' all Gypsies (who seem
perceived as about subhuman) from them. When among Americans, I have been
more likely to hear "hate propaganda" directed against all Muslims than that
directed against all Jews, and I have been much less likely to hear anyone
else speak out in defence of those Muslims than in defence of those Jews.

'Nothing is more common than for persons to hate those whom they have injured.'
--Charlotte Lennox (Sophia)

--Nick

--
Neo-Nazy (Rolf Tueschen) wrote in message ...

You're not only paranoid but also a psychopath,
just like the mentioned lying Jewish *******.
=================================================





* * *

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski knotted his nickers & wrote


(What is this nonsense? Do we have here United Nations?
Nations United Against Jews? Or is it rec.games.CHESS.misc)?

When you see antisemitic propaganda then
leave alone "factual arrors" (if any)
becauise there are zillions of them.

Well said indeed! Wlod..

If it is not an error in an analysis of
a chess position then it has no place
on a chess discussion list.

Are you certain? - Surely the immediate above, pertains specifically to
rgca & no other 'gruppe' Go there, not 'ere I think..


Yeah, it doesn't take much brain to
spill hate propaganda. Enough of that racist vomit.

Wlod

PS. If we had here an "objective criticism"
(read: hate propaganda) of Portugal, Turkish,
Pakistani, Italian... whatever government,
on this chess group, people woulod consider
it odd, inappropriate, sick. But antiSemitism
is so spread, so common, so international, that
any sick idiot can indulge himself in "criticizing
Jews objectively", and a bunch of idiots would humor
him, even on a chess group. Sick.

(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote:



* * *
.
. . .


smoke's still in the air
my mortal ancestors burned
by the SuperRace




wh,
1990-01-10




The main purpose of the thread 'A Jew and a liar' is this. A young
computerchess expert from Israel spreads inhuman pro-Sharon propaganda in a
private forum of the biggest chess store in the USA, named ICDchess.

If being corrected the youngster seems to be proud of his lies and continues
with another topic. Here I caught him in the act of insulting a former German
Minister, who had dared to criticise Sharon's policy, a 'Nazi *******'. This
was tolerated by the private forum of ICDchess. While my reverse calling Omid
David a 'lying Jewish *******' was branded as impossible offense.

The logic behind such a schizophreny is that it seems to be judged as "normal"
that Omid David spreads lies, hence an Israeli is allowed to lie. While a
German doesn't correct the lies.

Do you, in the rememberence of the many victims of the Holocaust, who died by
the hands of Nazi Germans, _really_ want that you and your brothers and sisters
today have the extra right to spread lies??? Is it really what you want? - -

Or isn't it better to accept the truth that a young Israeli is a psychopath?

If you out there do NOT understand this little message which gives you a true
and honest description of the basic conflict in that ICDchess forum, THEN of
course you must admit that your otherwise reasonable protest against any kind
of Anti-Semitism cannot be taken for serious. Know what I mean?

You cannot defend a psychopath's lies with pointing your finger into the
direction of the truth-telling German! You understand me?

It's strange that I must teach you this lesson as a German. It would have been
better if Omid David would have been better educated. It doesn't help you one
yota in your grief if you begin to defend, to justify outright lies, if they
come from an Israeli or a Jew from elsewhere.

Finally, if you complain that it was published over eighty times now that Title
'A Jew and a liar', then please take into consideration that the private forum
is hosted by the biggest chess store in the USA. With its economical power
these people justified outright lies and punished a German for his telling the
truth in correcting a lying Jew.

Just try to give it a second thought from your side. I admit that you might
have misunderstood the whole question of mine as a nasty German idea. It was
NOT! It was just the publishing of an incredible state in a private forum
hosted by ICDchess.

Rolf

(Nick) wrote:


(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote in message
.com...(to Greg Kennedy):
NoMoreBrain illspam (NoMoreBrain)
wrote in message
...
Some people just don't get it.

Look, NoMoreBrain, the words "Jew and a liar" are on rgmc repeated by now
in
the TITLE of 81 articles in just one thread. Also in other threads on
other
newsgroups, which also have nothing to do with politics, Israel, Jews, ...

Dear Wlod,

I concur that the title, "Being a Jew and a Liar", is prima facie evidence of
anti-Semitism by that thread's creator, Rolf Tueschen. Unfortunately,
creating
troll threads with offensive titles such as "X is a Liar" is nothing new
here.
(I have been the personal target of such threads created by several trolls.)

Yeah, it doesn't take much brain to spill hate propaganda.
Enough of that racist vomit.

You should expect to be disappointed if you were hoping to engage
"NoMoreBrain"
(as you call him) in a rational discussion. Greg Kennedy (aka "NoMoreChess")
seems well-known here as an inveterate troll, whose main interest in writing
is "trolling for a flame war" (to quote John Macnab, whom Greg Kennedy kept
calling "Mr. McBad") by making reiterated personal attacks full of his
characteristic distortions, fabrications, or lies.

PS. If we had here an "objective criticism" (read: hate propaganda)
of Portugal, Turkish, Pakistani, Italian... whatever government,
on this chess group, people woulod consider it odd, inappropriate, sick.
But antiSemitism is so spread, so common, so international, that any sick
idiot can indulge himself in "criticizing Jews objectively", and a bunch
of idiots would humor him, even on a chess group. Sick.

If you are contending that there's a *unique* universal acceptance of "hate
propaganda" against Jews that would not be tolerated if expressed against any

other people, then I should have to disagree with you. I have heard ample
"hate propaganda" directed against *many* peoples, not only Jews, and the
worst of that "hate propaganda" has usually *not* been directed against Jews.

For example, I have heard some Europeans, who profess to admire Jews or to be
of Jewish heritage themselves, speak in fiercely racist ways of the 'urgent
need' to 'cleanse' their societies by 'eliminating' all Gypsies (who seem
perceived as about subhuman) from them. When among Americans, I have been
more likely to hear "hate propaganda" directed against all Muslims than that
directed against all Jews, and I have been much less likely to hear anyone
else speak out in defence of those Muslims than in defence of those Jews.


If you had so many good thoughts in your brain than prejudices you would
understand why the mentioned thread could NOT be initiated by the motivation to
create something about Anti-Semitism or spreading hatred against any particular
nation. You miss completely what No-nore-chess has understood right from the
beginning of that thread.

The main scandal is that an Israeli lies and officials in a private forum
defend and justify him. And the private forum is hosted by the biggest chess
store in the USA.

Can't you see what that means? It is as if a Jew had extra rights to lie
because of the Holocaust. [This is what very few here in rgcm are saying. As
there are Simon aka billy Chapman and now Wlod....] In special he can call
every German a 'Nazi *******'. That is in nuce the scandal. For Israel and the
Jews NOT for a German! So you can ask yourself why I am involved here.

I wished it had something distant to do with trolling. It has NOT-
unfortunately!

a) because I am a German and want to support anti-semitism?

b) because I am a computerchess friend and suffer from such excudings of a
young Israeli computerchess programmer who already has created his own program
called GENESIS and who wants to participate in the Wch in Graz?

c) because I am in favor of the Jews and suffer because they claim such an
incredible moral - as if they had extra rights in the World because of the
Holocaust?

Honestly, do you still believe in a)?? - Of course both b) and c) is the
correct answer.


Rolf

(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote:

PS. Hey guys, make it less attractive for this
semiazis full Nazy character, remove his hate
propaganda title from the post, when replying
to him, replace it with something meaningful.




Perhaps you could manipulate the truth in the NEW YORK TIMES but NOT in usenet.
It will take some time before you understand that the title of the thread is
exactly what the private forum of ICDchess had supported. No matter what a Jew
says, even if it's outright lies, it is still better than if a German says the
truth, namely that the forner german Minister is no 'Nazi *******' by far. That
is the depressing policy of ICDchess, the biggest chess store of the USA.

Rolf

michael adams wrote in message ...

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski knotted his nickers & wrote


(What is this nonsense? Do we have here United Nations?
Nations United Against Jews? Or is it rec.games.CHESS.misc)?

When you see antisemitic propaganda then
leave alone "factual arrors" (if any)
becauise there are zillions of them.

Well said indeed! Wlod..

If it is not an error in an analysis of
a chess position then it has no place
on a chess discussion list.

Are you certain? - Surely the immediate above,
pertains specifically to
rgca & no other 'gruppe' Go there, not 'ere I think..

Spoken precisely like a true chess master. C'mon Michael,
that was a figure of speech :-) If someone on rgcm would
say that that after the old school of Andersson, Morphy
and Chigorin a new generation of chess players was born,
led by Steinitz, who pioneered the modern positional
style, then it would be quite all right to mention that
actually Steinitz was not younger but older then Morphy
and Chigorin. Yes, it would still be within the scope
of this chess list range of topics :-)

Regards,

Wlod

Bob Musicant wrote:

Simon,
I fear at this point you are only encouraging him. I am out of here. I
regret whatever part I played in giving him a forum to spew his filth.
Bob


Dear Bob,

You are quite right. There are a few people who may have been partially
taken in by this anti-Semite, initially I, too, tried to give him the
benefit of the doubt, I hope that I have persuaded some of the doubters as
to the true nature of this individual.


Regards,

Simon.

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski wrote:

michael adams wrote in message ...

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski knotted his nickers & wrote


(What is this nonsense? Do we have here United Nations?
Nations United Against Jews? Or is it rec.games.CHESS.misc)?

When you see antisemitic propaganda then
leave alone "factual arrors" (if any)
becauise there are zillions of them.

Well said indeed! Wlod..

If it is not an error in an analysis of
a chess position then it has no place
on a chess discussion list.

Are you certain? - Surely the immediate above,
pertains specifically to
rgca & no other 'gruppe' Go there, not 'ere I think..

Spoken precisely like a true chess master. C'mon Michael,
that was a figure of speech :-) If someone on rgcm would
say that that after the old school of Andersson, Morphy
and Chigorin a new generation of chess players was born,
led by Steinitz, who pioneered the modern positional
style, then it would be quite all right to mention that
actually Steinitz was not younger but older then Morphy
and Chigorin. Yes, it would still be within the scope
of this chess list range of topics :-)

Regards,

Wlod

Oh yes, I suppose so.. Perhaps the more relevant area is whether
Steinitz's theories actually superseded Morphy's style of play..

'gards - micky..