Being a Jew and a Liar

#**171** January 13th 04, 02:10 AM

"Rolf Tueschen" schreef in bericht
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Cowardly "XaqaX" wrote anonymously:

This is a Chess related group!!!

Of course and his is why the message is here in RGCM because the Jew in
the
story is the famous chess programmer Omid David Tabibi. Didn't you know
that?
And therefore the worshipping of lies is a real problem in the development
of
chess.

Rolf

Ooooh Right! Yeah! they wear me down......

#**172** January 13th 04, 12:32 PM

Rolf Tueschen wrote:

wrote:

"Fred" wrote in message
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"Isidor Gunsberg" wrote in message
om...
illspam (NoMoreChess) wrote in message
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Yet Tueschen deliberately
labeled that person a "Jew and a Liar", and thereby created an
association between Jews and a negative characteristic (lying).

I won't comment on the rest of your post, but on this point alone I
believe
you are incorrect. No such association is created. If anything, it
highlights that no such association exists, for if there were such an
association, then to use the phrase " a Jew and a Liar" would be
redundant,
wouldn't it?

Don't get me wrong though, his use of the term "Jew" by itself seems
questionable at best , it is just that the statement you quoted creates no
such association.

So there.

You seem to have missed the original postings on this subject. Isidor's
"quote" is a somewhat sanitized version of the vicious statement Tueschen
actually made. As to the "lie" that the target of Tueschen's attack told,
that is nonsense. The man was expressing an opinion about a German
political figure, an opinion shared by others in Germany itself. His sin
was in using somewhat stronger language than necessary to get his point
across.

Entirely apart from that, even in the version of the quote posted by Isidor,
it should be clear to any reader that the intention is to use the word "Jew"
as a term of disparagement.

Bob Musicant

That you are completely over the edge is also quite clear to me since we talked
about this matter here mentioned. I know for sure that you are wrong, although
you might be a good lawyer.

What this Isidor wrote is total bull**** and I will prove both him and yourself
totally wrong.

It is very easy stuff, so you can follow without any help from outside.

1. You are a liar.

Proof: That Jewish smear propaganda activist, the chess programmer Omid David
Tabibi, just about 30 y. of age, called the late German Minister a Nazi. He
wrote "German Nazi". - -

Now this is totally wrong and an intentional lie. Möllemann never was a Nazi or
right-wing or fascist or whatever, but he was simply a politician of one of the
legendary German Government Parties. The Free Democrats. His only fault he had
- in the eyes of Israeli Falcons - was that he criticised the Sharon policy of
the actual government. Formerly he was sort of aid for the Foreign Minister
Genscher in questions of Arabs and Palestinians. Later he was Minister of
Education, of Economy and was even Vice-Chancellor. End of the story.

So it is proven a lie if you say that the Germans themselves called him a
German Nazi. QED.

2. Now the story of the linkage between a Jew and being a Liar. After I
corrected the wrong statement of that Israeli shmock, he continued to write his
nonsense. Then I asked him if it didn't bother him to be called a liar, or, if
a Jew in that group perhaps had the extra right to lie! The guy didn't answer
and continued to spread his lie. Then he changed to other lies. Always
propaganda lies. He's the known Israeli propaganda liar in that group. Always
close on the line of executing Arafat or killing Palestinians or some such.

Now my appealling message into RGCM had a single meaning. How come that a Jew
does not feel ashamed when outed as proven liar. Is it perhaps the extra right
of Jews after the Holocaust to even spread lies if it helps their cause?

Rolf I will try to answer, my time is strictly limited & expensive _ I'm
sure you will begin to feel OK. Briefly, all of us over here at rgcm
know & accept that your complaint against the pouncy, exclusively -
minded clique of whackers, performing nightly to their mutual smug
satisfaction, are just that! IE - *******, writ large = *******. Don't
worry about them, Rolfie boy. Much better is you put your energies into
enlivening our frequent & always interesting forays into chessic
journalism, here on rgcm. Failing that of course, there's rgcc too. I'm
sure Rolf, that given a reasonable amount of time, the nasty, stink &
gnawing of these moderated forums, will leave your being - 'free'..

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