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In the whole history of chess one and only one
chess player had played championship matches against more than one **incumbent** champion. Wlod |
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"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski" wrote
In the whole history of chess one and only one chess player had played championship matches against more than one **incumbent** champion. Wlod Wlod, I can think of two, actually. Botvinnik and Anand. 1958 Smyslov-Botvinnik 1961 Tal-Botvinnik 1995 Kasparov-Anand (PCA) 1998 Karpov-Anand (FIDE) Best regards, Tobi |
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"Tobi Usher" wrote in message
i.nl... "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski" wrote In the whole history of chess one and only one chess player had played championship matches against more than one **incumbent** champion. Wlod Wlod, I can think of two, actually. Botvinnik and Anand. 1958 Smyslov-Botvinnik 1961 Tal-Botvinnik 1995 Kasparov-Anand (PCA) 1998 Karpov-Anand (FIDE) I think also Alekhine. Matt |
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"mdamien" wrote I think also Alekhine. You're perfectly right, Matt. How silly of me to forget him. So now we have three of them: Alekhine, Botvinnik and Anand. 1927 Capablanca-Alekhine 1937 Euwe-Alekhine 1958 Smyslov-Botvinnik 1961 Tal-Botvinnik 1995 Kasparov-Anand (PCA) 1998 Karpov-Anand (FIDE) Who else did I forget? Tobi |
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I think when Lasker played Capablanca he (Lasker) if I am correct was not the
official World Champ.I believed Lasker had given up the World Championship prior to that match. |
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"Etj718" wrote I think when Lasker played Capablanca he (Lasker) if I am correct was not the official World Champ.I believed Lasker had given up the World Championship prior to that match. You are correct. Lasker did resign his title to Capablanca in 1920, but when in 1921 a match took place after all, Lasker was nevertheless regarded as the incumbent champion and Capa as the challenger. As I see it, Lasker's abdication was in fact nullified by the agreement to play the match. It would be rather strange to regard Capa as the incumbent and Lasker as the challeger trying to regain the title he had voluntarily resigned. However, if you do take that view, that would make Lasker the fourth name on our list (having played against the incumbent champions Steinitz in 1894 and Capablanca in 1921). Any historians out there who can shed more light on the legal status of Lasker's 1920 abdication and the 1921 match? Tobi |
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Tobi Usher wrote:
I can think of two, actually. Botvinnik and Anand. But noone who was actually lying down at the time? -- Anders Thulin http://www.algonet.se/~ath |
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Lasker was nevertheless regarded as
the incumbent champion and Capa as the challenger. As I see it It would be rather strange to regard Capa as the incumbent and Lasker as the challeger I do not disagree.Just trying to add another name to the list.I personally would have regarded Lasker as the Champ and Capa as the favorite. |
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"Lasker surprised the chess world by resigning his title in favour of [Capablanca]. ... the chess world ... wanted a match. ... Lasker decided to give the chess world what it wanted. He did, however, insist that he had resigned the title in Capablanca's favour, and he, Lasker must therefore be considered the challenger. Both players issued statements to that effect, which were promptly and very reasonably ignored by all." - Hartston I would imagine that details about what was written at the time could be found in Edward Winter's book about Capablanca. |
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