Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano game ever
played and why?

"PJDBAD" wrote in message
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Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano game
ever
played and why?

I guess "best ever" can have different interpretations (e.g., least
mistakes), but here are two games that blew me away, when going over a slew
of them a few years ago:

[Site "Paris (1858 or 1859)"]
[White "Morphy,Paul"]
[Black "De Riviere,J\\Journoud"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C51"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Bc5 6.O-O d6 7.d4 exd4 8.cxd4
Bb6 9.Nc3 Qf6 10.Nd5 Qg6 11.Nf4 Qf6 12.e5 dxe5 13.dxe5 Qf5 14.e6 f6
15.Nh4 Qc5 16.Be3 Qg5 17.Nf3 Qa5 18.Bxb6 Qxb6 19.Nd5 Qa5 20.Nd2 Nd4
21.Nb3 Nxb3 22.axb3 Qc5 23.Qh5+ Kd8 24.Rad1 1-0

[Event "?"]
[Site "New York (FS"]
[Date "1963.??.??"]
[Round "245.0"]
[White "Fischer R"]
[Black "Fine"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C52"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 7.O-O dxc3
8.Qb3 Qe7 9.Nxc3 Nf6 10.Nd5 Nxd5 11.exd5 Ne5 12.Nxe5 Qxe5 13.Bb2 Qg5
14.h4 Qxh4 15.Bxg7 Rg8 16.Rfe1+ Kd8 17.Qg3 1-0


I'm not sure what game Capt. Evans first played the Evans Gambit, but that
would certainly be a contender for best ever, if the interpretation includes
best ever ideas in the Giuoco.

Matt

mdamien wrote:
"PJDBAD" wrote:
Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano game ever played and why?

I guess "best ever" can have different interpretations (e.g., least
mistakes), but here are two games that blew me away, when going over a
slew of them a few years ago:

[Morphy--de Riviere, Paris, 1858/9]
[Fischer--Fine, New York, 1963]

Of those, I think I prefer the second. In the first one, de Riviere's
9... Qf6 looks a little dodgy and is just asking to have it chased all
around the board. But the Fischer--Fine game is, well, a fine game. :-)


Dave.

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PJDBAD wrote:
Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano game ever
played and why?
The best ever Italian game ever played-- allowing for an opponents
mistakes of course -- is the game known as **Petroff's Evergreen
Game**-- played in Warsaw in 1845. The white pieces were played By Falk
Hoffman.
You can find this game in all the important databases. It is also the
first game cited in the well-known book "The King Hunt" by Cozens.
Black sacrifices his lady on her original square and mates white
forcingly in about 21 moves ( some variations 24 moves).
let's test my memory 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Bc5 4c3Nf6 5d4ed4 6e5 and black's
correct theoretical move here is 6...d4 but Petroff plays something
else! Petroff should be punished! instead he sleazes his way into the
history books as the father of Russian Chess.
Read the game to learn more!!

On 29 Nov 2003 22:27:30 GMT, (PJDBAD) wrote:

Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano game ever
played and why?

Not claiming it's technically the *best*, but I've always enjoyed
replaying Schiffers-Harmonist, Frankfort, 1887.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 Bb4+ 7.
Bd2 Bxd2+ 8. Nbxd2 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Qb3 Nce7 11. O-O O-O 12. Rfe1
c6 13. a4 Qc7 14. Rac1 Nf4 15. Ng5 Neg6 16. Re8 Rxe8 17. Bxf7+ Kh8 18.
Bxe8 Ne2+ 19. Kh1 Nxc1 20. Nf7+ Kg8 21. Nh6+ Kf8 22. Qg8+ Ke7 23. Bxg6
hxg6 24. Qxg7+ Kd8 25. Qf8+ Kd7 26. Ne4 Qd8 27. Qd6+ Ke8 28. Nf6+ 1-0

Lasker included it as one of the examples in his "How to Play Chess",
so as you say, it's a trip down Memory Lane.

"Mike Murray" wrote in message
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On 29 Nov 2003 22:27:30 GMT, (PJDBAD) wrote:

Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano game
ever
played and why?

Not claiming it's technically the *best*, but I've always enjoyed
replaying Schiffers-Harmonist, Frankfort, 1887.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 Bb4+ 7.
Bd2 Bxd2+ 8. Nbxd2 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Qb3 Nce7 11. O-O O-O 12. Rfe1
c6 13. a4 Qc7 14. Rac1 Nf4 15. Ng5 Neg6 16. Re8 Rxe8 17. Bxf7+ Kh8 18.
Bxe8 Ne2+ 19. Kh1 Nxc1 20. Nf7+ Kg8 21. Nh6+ Kf8 22. Qg8+ Ke7 23. Bxg6
hxg6 24. Qxg7+ Kd8 25. Qf8+ Kd7 26. Ne4 Qd8 27. Qd6+ Ke8 28. Nf6+ 1-0

Lasker included it as one of the examples in his "How to Play Chess",
so as you say, it's a trip down Memory Lane.

I always liked the first one from the 1981 WC Match. I think it was drawn in
about 80 moves, but only after some clever defence from VK.
Alan

The best to me has always been Stienitz vs von Bardeleben, Hastings 1895

1.e4 e5 d4. 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb5+ 7.Nc3
Steinitz wrote about this move in his Modern Chess Instructor. It became
known as the Moeller Attack. 7.d5 In rd.2 Stienitz-Schlechter, play
continued 7.Nxe4 8.0-0 Bxc3 9.bxc3 d5 10.Ba3!? (Steinitz's idea), Be6 11Bb5
Nd6 with an equal game. 8.exd5 Nxd5 9.0-0 Be6 If 9.Nxc3 10.bxc3 Bxc3 than
11.Bxf7+ Kxf7 12.Qb3+ with a dangerous attack for White. 10.Bg5 Be7?! This
move allows Steinitz to trade off the minor pieces and to exert pressure on
the centre with his remaining heavy pieces. 11.Bxd5 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Qxd5
13.Bxe7 Nxe7 14.Re1! Bringing the first rook into the centre file. 14.f6
15.Qe2 15.Qd7 16.Rac1 At this point all of White's pieces have been
developed and Steinitz has completed his opening. 16.c6 17.d5 White
sacrifices the pawn for mobility of the knight and a powerful attack. Notice
that Black still hasn't castled his King. 17.cxd5 18.Nd4 Kf7 19.Ne6 Rhc8
20.Qg4 g6 21.Ng5+ Ke8 22.Rxe7+! This move must of astonished von Bardeleben
22.Kf8 23.Rf7+ Kg8 24.Rg7+ Kh8 25.Rxh7+! 1-0



25.Kg8 26.Rg7+ Kh8 27.Qh4+ Kxg7 28.Qh7+ Kf8 29.Qh8+ Ke7 30.Qg7+ Ke8 31.Qg8+
Ke7 32.Qf7+ Kd8 33.Qf8+ Qe8 34.Nf7+ Kd7 35.Qd6# Mate







"One Eyed Jack" wrote in message
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PJDBAD wrote:
Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano
game ever
played and why?
The best ever Italian game ever played-- allowing for an opponents
mistakes of course -- is the game known as **Petroff's Evergreen
Game**-- played in Warsaw in 1845. The white pieces were played By Falk
Hoffman.
You can find this game in all the important databases. It is also the
first game cited in the well-known book "The King Hunt" by Cozens.
Black sacrifices his lady on her original square and mates white
forcingly in about 21 moves ( some variations 24 moves).
let's test my memory 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Bc5 4c3Nf6 5d4ed4 6e5 and black's
correct theoretical move here is 6...d4 but Petroff plays something
else! Petroff should be punished! instead he sleazes his way into the
history books as the father of Russian Chess.
Read the game to learn more!!

bardeleben never finished the game. it did not end in mate.
"King Leopold" wrote in message
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The best to me has always been Stienitz vs von Bardeleben, Hastings 1895

1.e4 e5 d4. 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb5+ 7.Nc3
Steinitz wrote about this move in his Modern Chess Instructor. It became
known as the Moeller Attack. 7.d5 In rd.2 Stienitz-Schlechter, play
continued 7.Nxe4 8.0-0 Bxc3 9.bxc3 d5 10.Ba3!? (Steinitz's idea), Be6
11Bb5
Nd6 with an equal game. 8.exd5 Nxd5 9.0-0 Be6 If 9.Nxc3 10.bxc3 Bxc3 than
11.Bxf7+ Kxf7 12.Qb3+ with a dangerous attack for White. 10.Bg5 Be7?! This
move allows Steinitz to trade off the minor pieces and to exert pressure
on
the centre with his remaining heavy pieces. 11.Bxd5 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Qxd5
13.Bxe7 Nxe7 14.Re1! Bringing the first rook into the centre file. 14.f6
15.Qe2 15.Qd7 16.Rac1 At this point all of White's pieces have been
developed and Steinitz has completed his opening. 16.c6 17.d5 White
sacrifices the pawn for mobility of the knight and a powerful attack.
Notice
that Black still hasn't castled his King. 17.cxd5 18.Nd4 Kf7 19.Ne6 Rhc8
20.Qg4 g6 21.Ng5+ Ke8 22.Rxe7+! This move must of astonished von
Bardeleben
22.Kf8 23.Rf7+ Kg8 24.Rg7+ Kh8 25.Rxh7+! 1-0



25.Kg8 26.Rg7+ Kh8 27.Qh4+ Kxg7 28.Qh7+ Kf8 29.Qh8+ Ke7 30.Qg7+ Ke8
31.Qg8+
Ke7 32.Qf7+ Kd8 33.Qf8+ Qe8 34.Nf7+ Kd7 35.Qd6# Mate







"One Eyed Jack" wrote in message
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PJDBAD wrote:
Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano
game ever
played and why?
The best ever Italian game ever played-- allowing for an opponents
mistakes of course -- is the game known as **Petroff's Evergreen
Game**-- played in Warsaw in 1845. The white pieces were played By Falk
Hoffman.
You can find this game in all the important databases. It is also the
first game cited in the well-known book "The King Hunt" by Cozens.
Black sacrifices his lady on her original square and mates white
forcingly in about 21 moves ( some variations 24 moves).
let's test my memory 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Bc5 4c3Nf6 5d4ed4 6e5 and black's
correct theoretical move here is 6...d4 but Petroff plays something
else! Petroff should be punished! instead he sleazes his way into the
history books as the father of Russian Chess.
Read the game to learn more!!

True. You are right. That's why I have the 1-0 directly after the 25th move
for White.

"marc margolies" wrote in message
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bardeleben never finished the game. it did not end in mate.
"King Leopold" wrote in message
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The best to me has always been Stienitz vs von Bardeleben, Hastings 1895

1.e4 e5 d4. 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb5+ 7.Nc3
Steinitz wrote about this move in his Modern Chess Instructor. It became
known as the Moeller Attack. 7.d5 In rd.2 Stienitz-Schlechter, play
continued 7.Nxe4 8.0-0 Bxc3 9.bxc3 d5 10.Ba3!? (Steinitz's idea), Be6
11Bb5
Nd6 with an equal game. 8.exd5 Nxd5 9.0-0 Be6 If 9.Nxc3 10.bxc3 Bxc3
than
11.Bxf7+ Kxf7 12.Qb3+ with a dangerous attack for White. 10.Bg5 Be7?!
This
move allows Steinitz to trade off the minor pieces and to exert pressure
on
the centre with his remaining heavy pieces. 11.Bxd5 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Qxd5
13.Bxe7 Nxe7 14.Re1! Bringing the first rook into the centre file. 14.f6
15.Qe2 15.Qd7 16.Rac1 At this point all of White's pieces have been
developed and Steinitz has completed his opening. 16.c6 17.d5 White
sacrifices the pawn for mobility of the knight and a powerful attack.
Notice
that Black still hasn't castled his King. 17.cxd5 18.Nd4 Kf7 19.Ne6 Rhc8
20.Qg4 g6 21.Ng5+ Ke8 22.Rxe7+! This move must of astonished von
Bardeleben
22.Kf8 23.Rf7+ Kg8 24.Rg7+ Kh8 25.Rxh7+! 1-0



25.Kg8 26.Rg7+ Kh8 27.Qh4+ Kxg7 28.Qh7+ Kf8 29.Qh8+ Ke7 30.Qg7+ Ke8
31.Qg8+
Ke7 32.Qf7+ Kd8 33.Qf8+ Qe8 34.Nf7+ Kd7 35.Qd6# Mate







"One Eyed Jack" wrote in message
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PJDBAD wrote:
Tripping down Chess Memory Lane: Which is the best ever Giuoco Piano
game ever
played and why?
The best ever Italian game ever played-- allowing for an opponents
mistakes of course -- is the game known as **Petroff's Evergreen
Game**-- played in Warsaw in 1845. The white pieces were played By
Falk
Hoffman.
You can find this game in all the important databases. It is also the
first game cited in the well-known book "The King Hunt" by Cozens.
Black sacrifices his lady on her original square and mates white
forcingly in about 21 moves ( some variations 24 moves).
let's test my memory 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Bc5 4c3Nf6 5d4ed4 6e5 and
black's
correct theoretical move here is 6...d4 but Petroff plays something
else! Petroff should be punished! instead he sleazes his way into the
history books as the father of Russian Chess.
Read the game to learn more!!