"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
om...

Peter, what does this Huiser want?


"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
...
Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news. You'd
better ignore him.


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Interesting : seems like you have very similar names ))

Regards,
Jerzy

You mean his sister`s name is not Joanna ? So what`s the big deal about it ?
It doesn`t imply that he didn`t talk to her.

First Bebchuk calls her Joanna and then at the end of the article she
is already called Carolina. He does not even remember her exact name
but "remembers" the things she never said!

2. He states that Regina Fischer never studied in Moscow and that she
stayed
a nurse for the rest of her life.

Again : so what`s the big deal about it ?
Are you from FBI and try to prove that Regina Fischer was a KGB agent ?

I never said she was a KGB agent and I think she was not. But it is
very interesting why Bebchuck denies a well known fact, confirmed by
the FBI file, that Regina Fischer lived in the USSR for 6 years. And
of course Fischer's sister knew about it and can't have said that her
mother never lived in Moscow and was against their journey. It is a
lie made up by Bebchuck.

3. He says that Fischer overreacted on the question if his mother is
Jewish as if nobody never asked him this question.

As Fischer heard the question about his mother thousands of times, he
can't have reacted as if he was asked for the first time and shocked
by the question.

OK let`s start again : where are your alleged fairy-tales and what has
Lubyanka in common with them ? Do you refer to Lubyanka prison ?

Follow the link to the article about Bebchuk
http://exile.ru/143/143100800.html
and you'll know "what has Lubyanka in common" .

I`m afraid that you create fairy-tales not Bebchuk who personally
met
Fischer and only describes the meeting with him and his sister in his
article.

You think I am the only one seeing fairy tales? Read the introduction
to the article written by Peter van der Hoog on his site:

"The author proclaims himself a witness of the past, as opposed to
connoisseurs who cook up crazy stories for the sake of sensation. It's
unclear which cooked up stories Bebchuck refers to but his own story
seems a clear example of a cooked up story. He recalls an interview
with Joana Fischer in 1958 (later he calls her Caroline Fischer) but
the details are so unusual, that it is hard to believe they are true.

Another story, a dinner with Fischer, might be authentic. We recognize
the Fischer from the radio-interviews, although one reaction is
atypical. On Bebchuck's question if his mother is Jewish, Fischer gets
very angry and runs away. Fischer connoisseurs surely remember Petra
Dautov asking Fischer the same question in 1990. Then Fischer simply
denied his mother was Jewish. Also in the radio-interviews Fischer
answers the same question several times "it's their own definition!",
as well without getting angry."

When you can prove it wrong and have any serious argumentse to add, go
ahead. If not, sorry, I am too busy now to keep up a senseless flame.

"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message ...
Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news. You'd
better ignore him.

When those two are provincial guys, what in hell are they doing on
international news groups?? In what language should I write here, in
Chinese?

Peter is crossposting his foreign messages in the Dutch (language) groups
too. Mark was just asking him to keep to the charter of the Dutch news group
and stop posting these messages. But Peter does not seem to have any
manners.

"Todd E. Flambers" schreef in bericht
m...
"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
...
Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news.
You'd
better ignore him.

When those two are provincial guys, what in hell are they doing on
international news groups?? In what language should I write here, in
Chinese?

"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
om...
You mean his sister`s name is not Joanna ? So what`s the big deal about
it ?
It doesn`t imply that he didn`t talk to her.

First Bebchuk calls her Joanna and then at the end of the article she
is already called Carolina. He does not even remember her exact name
but "remembers" the things she never said!

What things did she never say ? Were you an eye-witness of their
conversation some decades ago ? Maybe the memory of an old-man Bebchuk
doesn`t serve him well and therefore he forgot her name ? But still it`s not
a fairy-tale. His story may be as well true.



2. He states that Regina Fischer never studied in Moscow and that she
stayed
a nurse for the rest of her life.

Again : so what`s the big deal about it ?
Are you from FBI and try to prove that Regina Fischer was a KGB agent ?

I never said she was a KGB agent and I think she was not. But it is
very interesting why Bebchuck denies a well known fact, confirmed by
the FBI file, that Regina Fischer lived in the USSR for 6 years. And
of course Fischer's sister knew about it and can't have said that her
mother never lived in Moscow and was against their journey. It is a
lie made up by Bebchuck.


Living in CCCP and studying there are two different things.

3. He says that Fischer overreacted on the question if his mother is
Jewish as if nobody never asked him this question.

As Fischer heard the question about his mother thousands of times, he
can't have reacted as if he was asked for the first time and shocked
by the question.

Very funny: you answer to yourself
I `m not a psychologist but I remember a psychiatrist wrote here on rgcm an
interesting article on Fischer and stated that he was emotionally unbalanced
to put it mildly.



OK let`s start again : where are your alleged fairy-tales and what has
Lubyanka in common with them ? Do you refer to Lubyanka prison ?

Follow the link to the article about Bebchuk
http://exile.ru/143/143100800.html
and you'll know "what has Lubyanka in common" .

Sorry, "eXile" who played Bebchuk is a real patzer ))
I do not judge chess players by where they live but by how good they play
chess.

Next time you could shorten the title because epithets like "master from
Lubyanka rewrites the biography of Regina Fischer" explains nth.


I`m afraid that you create fairy-tales not Bebchuk who personally
met
Fischer and only describes the meeting with him and his sister in his
article.

You think I am the only one seeing fairy tales? Read the introduction
to the article written by Peter van der Hoog on his site:

"The author proclaims himself a witness of the past, as opposed to
connoisseurs who cook up crazy stories for the sake of sensation. It's
unclear which cooked up stories Bebchuck refers to but his own story
seems a clear example of a cooked up story. He recalls an interview
with Joana Fischer in 1958 (later he calls her Caroline Fischer) but
the details are so unusual, that it is hard to believe they are true.

Another story, a dinner with Fischer, might be authentic. We recognize
the Fischer from the radio-interviews, although one reaction is
atypical. On Bebchuck's question if his mother is Jewish, Fischer gets
very angry and runs away. Fischer connoisseurs surely remember Petra
Dautov asking Fischer the same question in 1990. Then Fischer simply
denied his mother was Jewish. Also in the radio-interviews Fischer
answers the same question several times "it's their own definition!",
as well without getting angry."

When you can prove it wrong and have any serious argumentse to add, go
ahead. If not, sorry, I am too busy now to keep up a senseless flame.

OK you two : Todd Flambers and Peter van Hoog see fairy-tales where I can`t
see.
I don`t think Fischer deserves so much attention from my side. He went crazy
and even if he was a great chess player he doesn`t deserve my sympathy any
more. Surely I won`t be a connoisseur of Fischer`s biography like you two
))

BTW Have you met Fischer personally like Bebchuk ? If it`s so then I will
read your article with interest.

Regards,
Jerzy

"Peter van der Hoog" schreef in bericht
...
| Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news. You'd
| better ignore him.
|
|

And who is Peter van der Hoog?
Never heard of him!

I don`t think Fischer deserves so much attention from my side.

You can find back in the newsgroups lenghty and detailed discussions about
Paul Morphy. Paul Morphy also does not deserve so much attention?

If it`s so then I will read your article with interest.

Which article? Or do you really mean you did not read Bebchuk's article yet?


"Jerzy" wrote in message
...
"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
om...
You mean his sister`s name is not Joanna ? So what`s the big deal
about
it ?
It doesn`t imply that he didn`t talk to her.

First Bebchuk calls her Joanna and then at the end of the article she
is already called Carolina. He does not even remember her exact name
but "remembers" the things she never said!

What things did she never say ? Were you an eye-witness of their
conversation some decades ago ? Maybe the memory of an old-man Bebchuk
doesn`t serve him well and therefore he forgot her name ? But still it`s
not
a fairy-tale. His story may be as well true.



2. He states that Regina Fischer never studied in Moscow and that
she
stayed
a nurse for the rest of her life.

Again : so what`s the big deal about it ?
Are you from FBI and try to prove that Regina Fischer was a KGB agent
?

I never said she was a KGB agent and I think she was not. But it is
very interesting why Bebchuck denies a well known fact, confirmed by
the FBI file, that Regina Fischer lived in the USSR for 6 years. And
of course Fischer's sister knew about it and can't have said that her
mother never lived in Moscow and was against their journey. It is a
lie made up by Bebchuck.


Living in CCCP and studying there are two different things.

3. He says that Fischer overreacted on the question if his mother is
Jewish as if nobody never asked him this question.

As Fischer heard the question about his mother thousands of times, he
can't have reacted as if he was asked for the first time and shocked
by the question.

Very funny: you answer to yourself
I `m not a psychologist but I remember a psychiatrist wrote here on rgcm
an
interesting article on Fischer and stated that he was emotionally
unbalanced
to put it mildly.



OK let`s start again : where are your alleged fairy-tales and what has
Lubyanka in common with them ? Do you refer to Lubyanka prison ?

Follow the link to the article about Bebchuk
http://exile.ru/143/143100800.html
and you'll know "what has Lubyanka in common" .

Sorry, "eXile" who played Bebchuk is a real patzer ))
I do not judge chess players by where they live but by how good they play
chess.

Next time you could shorten the title because epithets like "master from
Lubyanka rewrites the biography of Regina Fischer" explains nth.


I`m afraid that you create fairy-tales not Bebchuk who personally
met
Fischer and only describes the meeting with him and his sister in his
article.

You think I am the only one seeing fairy tales? Read the introduction
to the article written by Peter van der Hoog on his site:

"The author proclaims himself a witness of the past, as opposed to
connoisseurs who cook up crazy stories for the sake of sensation. It's
unclear which cooked up stories Bebchuck refers to but his own story
seems a clear example of a cooked up story. He recalls an interview
with Joana Fischer in 1958 (later he calls her Caroline Fischer) but
the details are so unusual, that it is hard to believe they are true.

Another story, a dinner with Fischer, might be authentic. We recognize
the Fischer from the radio-interviews, although one reaction is
atypical. On Bebchuck's question if his mother is Jewish, Fischer gets
very angry and runs away. Fischer connoisseurs surely remember Petra
Dautov asking Fischer the same question in 1990. Then Fischer simply
denied his mother was Jewish. Also in the radio-interviews Fischer
answers the same question several times "it's their own definition!",
as well without getting angry."

When you can prove it wrong and have any serious argumentse to add, go
ahead. If not, sorry, I am too busy now to keep up a senseless flame.

OK you two : Todd Flambers and Peter van Hoog see fairy-tales where I
can`t
see.
I don`t think Fischer deserves so much attention from my side. He went
crazy
and even if he was a great chess player he doesn`t deserve my sympathy any
more. Surely I won`t be a connoisseur of Fischer`s biography like you two
))

BTW Have you met Fischer personally like Bebchuk ? If it`s so then I will
read your article with interest.

Regards,
Jerzy

Yes, Todd, I understand your anger but these guys are local people and you
have to address them in their local language. Scary, isn't it? As I said
before, the best is to simply ignore them.

"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
m...
"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
...
Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news.
You'd
better ignore him.

When those two are provincial guys, what in hell are they doing on
international news groups?? In what language should I write here, in
Chinese?

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:25:31 +0100, "Taco"
wrote:


"Peter van der Hoog" schreef in bericht
...
| Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news. You'd
| better ignore him.
|
|

And who is Peter van der Hoog?
Never heard of him!

Peter van der Hoog is a man who attacks me almost every day and I have
no idea who he is or why he attacks me.

I doubt that he is Dutch because in general I have very good relations
with people from Holland.

Sam Sloan

"Sam Sloan" schreef in bericht
...
| On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:25:31 +0100, "Taco"
| wrote:
|
|
| "Peter van der Hoog" schreef in bericht
| ...
| | Just a provincial guy, who is not interested in international news.
You'd
| | better ignore him.
| |
| |
|
| And who is Peter van der Hoog?
| Never heard of him!
|
| Peter van der Hoog is a man who attacks me almost every day and I have
| no idea who he is or why he attacks me.
|
| I doubt that he is Dutch because in general I have very good relations
| with people from Holland.
|
| Sam Sloan
|


I'm afraid that Peter van der Hoog really a Dutchman is. He seems to have an
URL:
http://members.lycos.nl/vdHoog/

Not very special, I think he is a nobody.

Greetings
Taco