Well, if you say someone else is a provincial like Peter did, you have to be
somebody yourself. But Peter seems to be a nobody.

When it seems to you, cross yerself. They say it helps.

"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message ...
Yes, Todd, I understand your anger but these guys are local people and you
have to address them in their local language. Scary, isn't it? As I said
before, the best is to simply ignore them.

What so scary about it? I know a three-letter Dutch word from my
friend Senya and I can place it here, why not?

"Todd E. Flambers" schreef in bericht
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| When it seems to you, cross yerself. They say it helps.



Checking out your name in the newsgroups it seems that you are a troll.

"Liam Too" wrote in message
om...

Oh, man : just read it. Don`t you know English ? Myself I prefer the
Russian
one.

Why not in Polish? Did you know that Karol Wojtyla was/is a
chessplayer?

AFAIR it has already been discussed on rgcm.
A chess task was published in "64" several decades ago allegedly composed by
the Pope but it turned out to be only a hoax. And I haven`t heard so far
that he could play chess.


Bebchuk criticizes not these facts but the fact that FBI
suspected that "they were taken into service by the powerful Russian
KGB."
Read carefully the whole article. Sure, Todd Flambers made a mistake
here.

It's a well known fact that Gerhardt Fischer was a communist. He
opposed Hitler!
I don't know about Regina.

OK but I claim that Bebchuk didn`t make the mistake Flambers claims he did.
He has no proofs that he didn`t talk to Fischer`s sister and to Fischer
himself. Somebody who could do mistakes here is his sister. Surely it`s not
pulp-fiction or a fairy-tale as Flambers claims.

I'm just glad that I made you laugh. But Krabbe is a well known
Fischer basher without an immediate or direct cause.

OK Lance maybe Tim Krabbe is Fischer basher or maybe
not but IMO Bebchuk is not one of them. He is even defending Fischer in his
article from the accusation that he was a KGB spy.
And AFAIR Sam Sloan would do anything to make Fischer come-back to US of
course not to jail so I don`t think that he`s Fischer basher either.





Regards,
Jerzy

"Taco" wrote in message ...
"Todd E. Flambers" schreef in bericht
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| When it seems to you, cross yerself. They say it helps.



Checking out your name in the newsgroups it seems that you are a troll.

Checking our three yer posts in the newsgroups it is clearly seen that
you are a conceited dickhead. Suck a tool of yer own, please, invalid.

As far as Regina Fischer`s studies in Moscow from 1933 till 1938 and her
marriage with German biophysician (Fischer) in Moscow are concerned, I
understand that Bebchuk criticizes not these facts but the fact that FBI
suspected that "they were taken into service by the powerful Russian KGB."
Read carefully the whole article. Sure, Todd Flambers made a mistake here.


Bebchuck doubts the fact that Regina lived in Moscow and studied
the

" But let us return to the other "facts". So, the mother of Fischer
lived in our country for 6 years and even graduated from the medical
institute. I doubt that. And here is why. When Bobby arrived to Moscow
(in 1958 indeed, but not for a tournament but, as he said it himself,
" to play blitz with the champion of the world Botwinnik"), he was not
alone, but with his sister Joana. She was 3 years older than Fischer
and gave me a small interview. A fragment from it is he - You and
your family were some time in our country? - Bobby and me never been
here, and my mum told me, that many years before our birth, early in
her youth, she lived in Ukraine for almost a year: there was hunger at
the time, and she, being a nurse, with a team of German medical
experts helped to treat ill children. - Then this trip is especially
interesting for your mother... - I do not know why, but she was for
some reason against it. Bobby hardly managed to convince her."

"Todd E. Flambers" wrote in message
om...
As far as Regina Fischer`s studies in Moscow from 1933 till 1938 and
her
marriage with German biophysician (Fischer) in Moscow are concerned, I
understand that Bebchuk criticizes not these facts but the fact that
FBI
suspected that "they were taken into service by the powerful Russian
KGB."
Read carefully the whole article. Sure, Todd Flambers made a mistake
here.


Bebchuck doubts the fact that Regina lived in Moscow and studied
the

" But let us return to the other "facts". So, the mother of Fischer
lived in our country for 6 years and even graduated from the medical
institute. I doubt that. And here is why. When Bobby arrived to Moscow
(in 1958 indeed, but not for a tournament but, as he said it himself,
" to play blitz with the champion of the world Botwinnik"), he was not
alone, but with his sister Joana. She was 3 years older than Fischer
and gave me a small interview. A fragment from it is he - You and
your family were some time in our country? - Bobby and me never been
here, and my mum told me, that many years before our birth, early in
her youth, she lived in Ukraine for almost a year: there was hunger at
the time, and she, being a nurse, with a team of German medical
experts helped to treat ill children. - Then this trip is especially
interesting for your mother... - I do not know why, but she was for
some reason against it. Bobby hardly managed to convince her."

Read carefully : it is Fischer`s sister who claims that Regina Fischer had
been in Ukraine for one year (very interesting indeed). There is no word
that she (Regina) hadn`t been in CCCP for 6 years and that she hadn`t
studied there.
So there is no mistake on Bebchuk`s side only on yours. Your false
assumptions lead to false conclusions and unfortunately you are negatively
biased toward Russian people (especially Russian journalists)

Regards,
Jerzy

"Jerzy" wrote in message ...

AFAIR it has already been discussed on rgcm.
A chess task was published in "64" several decades ago allegedly composed by
the Pope but it turned out to be only a hoax. And I haven`t heard so far
that he could play chess.

I read it somewhere written by a reliable journalist that he really
composed chess problems and the he is a good chessplayer.


OK but I claim that Bebchuk didn`t make the mistake Flambers claims he did.
He has no proofs that he didn`t talk to Fischer`s sister and to Fischer
himself. Somebody who could do mistakes here is his sister. Surely it`s not
pulp-fiction or a fairy-tale as Flambers claims.

Fischer's sister Joan was born in Moscow. She was only a year old when
they returned to the USA. So perhaps, she didn't have a vivid
recollection that her mom lived in Moscow, studied, got married, and
delivered her there. OTOH, perhaps the interview didn't happen at all.


OK Lance maybe Tim Krabbe is Fischer basher or maybe
not but IMO Bebchuk is not one of them. He is even defending Fischer in his
article from the accusation that he was a KGB spy.
And AFAIR Sam Sloan would do anything to make Fischer come-back to US of
course not to jail so I don`t think that he`s Fischer basher either.

There's no question about Krabbe being a Fischer basher. As for Sloan,
I agree with you. However, you didn't know that he broke the incorrect
story about Fischer's father here in RGCP. He also claimed that he is
one of the sources of the infamous Philly Inquirer journalists.

All the best, Lance

"Liam Too" napisal w wiadomosci
om...

I read it somewhere written by a reliable journalist that he really
composed chess problems and the he is a good chessplayer.

Interesting : do you remeber that journalist and where it was printed ?

Fischer's sister Joan was born in Moscow. She was only a year old when
they returned to the USA. So perhaps, she didn't have a vivid
recollection that her mom lived in Moscow, studied, got married, and
delivered her there. OTOH, perhaps the interview didn't happen at all.

How old was she when Fischer went to Moscow to play blitz with Botvinnik ?
Bebchuk claims she was three years older than Robert.



There's no question about Krabbe being a Fischer basher. As for Sloan,
I agree with you. However, you didn't know that he broke the incorrect
story about Fischer's father here in RGCP. He also claimed that he is
one of the sources of the infamous Philly Inquirer journalists.

That`s the role of (internet) journalist like Sam to give us up-to-date news
here (sometimes shocking and untrue like alleged Leko-accident) even if they
turn out to be only a gossip.

All the best to You in 2004

Regards,
Jerzy

"Jerzy" wrote in message ...

Read carefully : it is Fischer`s sister who claims that Regina Fischer had
been in Ukraine for one year (very interesting indeed).

It is Bebchuk who states that Fischer's sister made such a claim. As
Fischer sister is dead she can't confirm that she really said it, so,
no witnesses. It is also known that in 1957 Regina wrote a letter to
Soviets and asked that her son be invited in the USSR, so she not only
was not against the journey, but even helped her son to visit Moscow.

There is no word
that she (Regina) hadn`t been in CCCP for 6 years and that she hadn`t
studied there.

Bebchuk own words from the article are(how many times should I quote
the same things?): " But let us return to the other "facts". So, the
mother of Fischer
lived in our country for 6 years and even graduated from the medical
institute. I doubt that".

That is what you call "No word"? Bebchuk bluntly says that he doubts
this fact, don't you see that? Either you are inattentive yerself or
you are cheating here.

So there is no mistake on Bebchuk`s side only on yours. Your false
assumptions lead to false conclusions and unfortunately you are negatively
biased toward Russian people (especially Russian journalists)

The article was found and shown to me and Peter by our Russian
Internet friend who made an English translation and who is also for
100% sure that Bebchuk is lying. So yer claim that I am "negatively
biased" towards "Russian people" it total crap. Next time think a bit
before discussing things you have no idea about if you don't want to
look ridiculous.

End of story