On 05 Jan 2004 02:15:27 GMT, eepmeep (John
Fernandez) wrote:

Larry Parr wrote:

Having said that, what proof is there that Paul Truong has been
cheating
at computer chess? We hear the charges against him and against Susan Polgar,
but I would like to see the games and the positions.

The games and positions would be completely irrelevant when looking at the
games of a rather strong player. Certainly YOU wouldn't be able to do anything
with them.

In Truong's case, the evidence was repeated task switching and having a chess
program open, and going to that chess program, in addition to actual game
analysis, which would be insane to show to anyone.

John Fernandez

OK. You have convinced me that is it possible that Truong has a
history of cheating at online chess.

However, you are alleging something in addition to that. You are
claiming that the USCL Administrators informed the Executive Board
including Tim Hanke that the match between Polgar and Boris Gulko
(which Polgar won) was not played by Polgar at all but was played by
Truong using a computer.

In short, John Fernandez is claiming that one of the world's most
famous and distinguished grandmasters of chess would use a complete
nobody like Truong to play her chess games.

Furthermore, Fernandez claims that USCL has the proof of this, but
that they would be "insane" to show this proof to anyone.

Finally, Fernandez concludes that Tim Hanke was absolutely justified
in putting this information on an e-mail distribution list and
blasting it all over the Internet.

I think that John Fernandez had better come up with some evidence to
support his claims, or else he is likely to be added as a defendant to
this suit.

Sam Sloan

In short, John Fernandez is claiming that one of the world's most
famous and distinguished grandmasters of chess

Boy, you've really got a chubby for this woman, don't you? Don't hold back,
Sam, let us know how you really feel.

Wouldn't Gulko know immediately if there was a computer involved? And
why would Polgar care if she won or lost to Gulko. Losing to Gulko
would be nothing to be ashamed of while winning would mean a lot. It
sounds like everybody looking for dirt.

EZoto

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 15:17:04 GMT, "The Masked Bishop"
wrote:

In short, John Fernandez is claiming that one of the world's most
famous and distinguished grandmasters of chess

Boy, you've really got a chubby for this woman, don't you? Don't hold back,
Sam, let us know how you really feel.

We would like to know who you are, what you have against Susan Polgar,
and why you attack her 20 times a day.

Are you her ex-husband? Somebody suggested that you might be.

Sam Sloan

I don't attack Susan Polgar 20 times a day. Please cite any post where I
have attacked Susan Polgar. I HAVE attacked this lawsuit. Since when is
offering a negative opinion about a lawsuit a personal attack?

And who is "we?"

TMB


We would like to know who you are, what you have against Susan Polgar, and
why you attack her 20 times a day.

Sam, I've gone back through this thread, and I see my postings as follows:

1) Active criticism of the Polgar/Truong lawsuit, in which I'm one voice in
a loud chorus. This included speculation on the future of the lawsuit and
even the Polgar-Truong business partnership.

2) An cranky spat with John Fernandez on the appropriateness of his posting
Polgar missives that he doesn't even agree with.

3) Disdain for your own reprehensible comments about Tim Hanke, as well as
some bemused observations on your lap-dog advocacy for this case.

None of this can be construed as an "attack on Susan Polgar." Considering
that some people have viewed your own comments as possibly actionable, maybe
you should take a look at yourself.

TMB

(Sam Sloan) wrote in message ...
On 05 Jan 2004 02:15:27 GMT, eepmeep (John
Fernandez) wrote:

Larry Parr wrote:

Having said that, what proof is there that Paul Truong has been
cheating
at computer chess? We hear the charges against him and against Susan Polgar,
but I would like to see the games and the positions.

The games and positions would be completely irrelevant when looking at the
games of a rather strong player. Certainly YOU wouldn't be able to do anything
with them.

In Truong's case, the evidence was repeated task switching and having a chess
program open, and going to that chess program, in addition to actual game
analysis, which would be insane to show to anyone.

John Fernandez

OK. You have convinced me that is it possible that Truong has a
history of cheating at online chess.

However, you are alleging something in addition to that. You are
claiming that the USCL Administrators informed the Executive Board
including Tim Hanke that the match between Polgar and Boris Gulko
(which Polgar won) was not played by Polgar at all but was played by
Truong using a computer.

In short, John Fernandez is claiming that one of the world's most
famous and distinguished grandmasters of chess would use a complete
nobody like Truong to play her chess games.

Furthermore, Fernandez claims that USCL has the proof of this, but
that they would be "insane" to show this proof to anyone.

Finally, Fernandez concludes that Tim Hanke was absolutely justified
in putting this information on an e-mail distribution list and
blasting it all over the Internet.

I think that John Fernandez had better come up with some evidence to
support his claims, or else he is likely to be added as a defendant to
this suit.

Sam Sloan

______________________________
Now you've gone and called Mr. Truong "a complete nobody." Perhaps
he'll send you a demand letter next.

KidDon

Sam, didn't Susan just ask you to shut up? Phil

"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
On 05 Jan 2004 02:15:27 GMT, eepmeep (John
Fernandez) wrote:

Larry Parr wrote:

Having said that, what proof is there that Paul Truong has been
cheating
at computer chess? We hear the charges against him and against Susan
Polgar,
but I would like to see the games and the positions.

The games and positions would be completely irrelevant when looking at
the
games of a rather strong player. Certainly YOU wouldn't be able to do
anything
with them.

In Truong's case, the evidence was repeated task switching and having a
chess
program open, and going to that chess program, in addition to actual game
analysis, which would be insane to show to anyone.

John Fernandez

OK. You have convinced me that is it possible that Truong has a
history of cheating at online chess.

However, you are alleging something in addition to that. You are
claiming that the USCL Administrators informed the Executive Board
including Tim Hanke that the match between Polgar and Boris Gulko
(which Polgar won) was not played by Polgar at all but was played by
Truong using a computer.

In short, John Fernandez is claiming that one of the world's most
famous and distinguished grandmasters of chess would use a complete
nobody like Truong to play her chess games.

Furthermore, Fernandez claims that USCL has the proof of this, but
that they would be "insane" to show this proof to anyone.

Finally, Fernandez concludes that Tim Hanke was absolutely justified
in putting this information on an e-mail distribution list and
blasting it all over the Internet.

I think that John Fernandez had better come up with some evidence to
support his claims, or else he is likely to be added as a defendant to
this suit.

Sam Sloan

Sam Sloan

______________________________
Now you've gone and called Mr. Truong "a complete nobody." Perhaps
he'll send you a demand letter next.

KidDon

I've known Paul and he is a cool guy. He has his faults like everyone
else but to say he is a nobody is wrong. Maybe Susan and Paul are
friends because Susan sees a guy who is a survivor and fights to live.
Not too many people in this NG if any had to go through what he went
through to get here in the USA. To me it sounds like jealousy as
always. As for Sam Sloan his hatred for Hanke after " losing " is
painfully obvious. I don't believe Susan Polgar needs a Sam Sloan to
defend her. I sure she can defend herself and Paul is a tough cookie
too. That's why they are friends. Sounds like as usual Sam wanting
to come into the limelight again and loves the attention.



Is Leko alive?

EZoto

"The Masked Bishop" wrote in message igy.com...
I don't attack Susan Polgar 20 times a day. Please cite any post where I
have attacked Susan Polgar. I HAVE attacked this lawsuit. Since when is
offering a negative opinion about a lawsuit a personal attack?

And who is "we?"

TMB

In math, double negatives are indeed a positive. Of course, you didn't
fool me that you are really from the Chicago area, was an insider of a
deaf school in Des Plaines long time ago (per Tattoo) that you now
don't recollect that much.

The "We Card" is very much a well known phenomenon.

Lance Smith