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EZoto wrote:
Why don't you quit chess? You can't beat 1800's. Take up knitting or
something.

What if he can't beat 1800-rated knitters, either? That could be
depressing.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Sadistic Mouldy Dictator (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a totalitarian leader but it's
starting to grow mushrooms and it
wants to hurt you!

What if he can't beat 1800-rated knitters, either? That could be
depressing.


Dave.

OUCH!!!

EZoto

Dude you're just not very good. Sorry..

David Richerby wrote in
rec.games.chess.analysis:


What if he can't beat 1800-rated knitters, either? That could be
depressing.

If he can't beat 1800's with e4 he should look for 1800's who don't
possess e4 and try to beat _them_.

--
CeeBee


"I am not a crook"

CeeBee writes:

David Richerby wrote in
rec.games.chess.analysis:


What if he can't beat 1800-rated knitters, either? That could be
depressing.

If he can't beat 1800's with e4 he should look for 1800's who don't
possess e4 and try to beat _them_.

Are you saying that the board is possessed? Or is that only when playing
e4? Does it have to be 1.e4 or can it be any e4 (like 23.e4!)? What
happens, does the king spin round like in that scary movie or what?

Curiously,

/M.

(Alex Dvorak) wrote in message . com...
I played e4 like Bobby Fischer but I still lose. Then I tried the
sicilian like Bobby and still no good. Do you think that maybe
Bobby's opponents let him win?? I can't beat anybody at my chess
club...they must like it when i show up so they can give me lessons
over the chessboard. you gotta help me please!!!


White: me (1208)
Black: 1832

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. d4 exd4 6. Qxd4 Qxd4 7.
Nxd4 Bc5 8. Be3 Bd7 9. c4 O-O-O 10. Nc3 Nf6 11. f3 Rhe8 12. Kf2 Kb8
13. Rad1
Bc8 14. g4 h6 15. Nxc6+ bxc6 16. Bxc5 Be6 17. b3 Nd7 18. Be3 Ne5 19.
Ke2
Rd6 20. Rxd6 cxd6 21. Rd1 Kc7 22. h3 h5 23. f4 Bxc4+ 24. bxc4 Nxc4 25.
Kf3
hxg4+ 26.hxg4 d5 27. e5 Rb8 28. Rb1 Rh8 29. Rg1 Rh3+ 30. Rg3 Rxg3+ 31.
Kxg3 Nxe3 32.f5 d4 33. Ne4 Nc4 34. Kf4 d3 35. Nc3 Kd7 36. Ke4 d2 37.
Kd4 Nb2 38. e6+
fxe639. fxe6+ Kxe6 40. Kc5 Kd7 41. a4 Nxa4+ 42. Nxa4 d1=Q 43. Nb6+ Kc7
44.
Nc4 Qxg4 {White resigns} 0-1

white: 1750
black: me (1208)

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 e5 5. Bb5+ Bd7 6. Bxd7+ Qxd7 7.
Nf5 g6 8. Ne3 Bh6 9. Nc3 Ne7 10. O-O Nbc6 11. Ncd5 Nd4 12. Nf6+
(black resigns)

White: me
Black: 1825

1. e4 e5 2. f4 Nc6 3. Nf3 f5 4. exf5 exf4 5. Bc4 d5 6. Bb3 Bxf5 7. O-O
Nf6 8. Re1+ Be7 9. Ne5 O-O 10. Nxc6 bxc6 11. Nc3 Bd6 12. d3 Kh8 13.
Ne2 Bg4
14.c3 f3 15. gxf3 Bxf3 16. Bg5 Qd7 17. Qd2 Qg4+ 18. Ng3 Bxg3 19. hxg3
Qxg3+ 20.Kf1 Ng4 21. Re2 Be4+ 22. Rf2 Rxf2+ 23. Qxf2 Qxf2 (white
resigns)


where's bobby when you need him?

As someone replied to one of your previous posts, work on basic
tactics. Forget about openings for a while. I am, and it's helping.
Try Yasser Seirawan's book "Winning Chess Tactics" and study it
carefully.

Actually, I did beat an 1800+ once...as Black! One of my best games, I went
out of my usual box and played an sacrificial line of the Scandinavian
(where you don't reclaim the pawn), figuring what the hell, I'm going to
lose anyway, might as well go down screaming in flames...

BUT, he unwisely fianchettoed on the Kingside, giving me a lovely
target...game ended in a suprise middle-game mate! I was a 1200-something
player at the time, so I drag that one out during brag sessions.

--TMB

It was fun to look over your games. Not that they're masterpieces, of
course. But thanks for posting them.

In the 1st game, you were doing OK until 28. Rb1 Rh8. Now you have to
play 29 Nd1 -- it's the only move! That would still be an OK
position, though it's kind of ugly. So maybe 28 Rb1 was a minor
error. But anyway, you're winning until you played 29 Rg1, and losing
afterwards. So that's a blunder.

In the 2nd game, your opening was not so great (you should play ... a6
to prevent that annoying bishop check before you play ...e5), but your
position was basically playable until the blunder 11 ... Nd4. You
have to guard against his threat, by something like 11 ... O-O-O.

In the 3rd game, you never got a decent position in the opening. I
didn't work hard enough to figure out where your errors were -- I'm
too lazy. The moral is, if you go in for the King's Gambit, you
better expect to work hard at the board, both sides have to.

I wonder if you're joking with all this Bobby this, Bobby that. Of
course, playing 1 e4 "like Bobby Fischer" is not some sort of magic
charm, you still have to play good moves, and if your opponents are
rated in the 1700's and 1800's like these three guys, you have to play
good moves the whole game. And anyway, in the 2nd game you didn't
even play 1 e4, since you had Black :-)

(Alex Dvorak) wrote in message . com...
I played e4 like Bobby Fischer but I still lose. Then I tried the
sicilian like Bobby and still no good. Do you think that maybe
Bobby's opponents let him win?? I can't beat anybody at my chess
club...they must like it when i show up so they can give me lessons
over the chessboard. you gotta help me please!!!


White: me (1208)
Black: 1832

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. d4 exd4 6. Qxd4 Qxd4 7.
Nxd4 Bc5 8. Be3 Bd7 9. c4 O-O-O 10. Nc3 Nf6 11. f3 Rhe8 12. Kf2 Kb8
13. Rad1
Bc8 14. g4 h6 15. Nxc6+ bxc6 16. Bxc5 Be6 17. b3 Nd7 18. Be3 Ne5 19.
Ke2
Rd6 20. Rxd6 cxd6 21. Rd1 Kc7 22. h3 h5 23. f4 Bxc4+ 24. bxc4 Nxc4 25.
Kf3
hxg4+ 26.hxg4 d5 27. e5 Rb8 28. Rb1 Rh8 29. Rg1 Rh3+ 30. Rg3 Rxg3+ 31.
Kxg3 Nxe3 32.f5 d4 33. Ne4 Nc4 34. Kf4 d3 35. Nc3 Kd7 36. Ke4 d2 37.
Kd4 Nb2 38. e6+
fxe639. fxe6+ Kxe6 40. Kc5 Kd7 41. a4 Nxa4+ 42. Nxa4 d1=Q 43. Nb6+ Kc7
44.
Nc4 Qxg4 {White resigns} 0-1

white: 1750
black: me (1208)

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 e5 5. Bb5+ Bd7 6. Bxd7+ Qxd7 7.
Nf5 g6 8. Ne3 Bh6 9. Nc3 Ne7 10. O-O Nbc6 11. Ncd5 Nd4 12. Nf6+
(black resigns)

White: me
Black: 1825

1. e4 e5 2. f4 Nc6 3. Nf3 f5 4. exf5 exf4 5. Bc4 d5 6. Bb3 Bxf5 7. O-O
Nf6 8. Re1+ Be7 9. Ne5 O-O 10. Nxc6 bxc6 11. Nc3 Bd6 12. d3 Kh8 13.
Ne2 Bg4
14.c3 f3 15. gxf3 Bxf3 16. Bg5 Qd7 17. Qd2 Qg4+ 18. Ng3 Bxg3 19. hxg3
Qxg3+ 20.Kf1 Ng4 21. Re2 Be4+ 22. Rf2 Rxf2+ 23. Qxf2 Qxf2 (white
resigns)


where's bobby when you need him?

En/na The Masked Bishop ha escrit:
Actually, I did beat an 1800+ once...as Black! One of my best games, I went
out of my usual box and played an sacrificial line of the Scandinavian
(where you don't reclaim the pawn), figuring what the hell, I'm going to
lose anyway, might as well go down screaming in flames...

BUT, he unwisely fianchettoed on the Kingside, giving me a lovely
target...game ended in a suprise middle-game mate! I was a 1200-something
player at the time, so I drag that one out during brag sessions.

--TMB

After those words, we would like to have a look at that game!! :-)

thanks
AT

Will do...let me get it off Fritz or wherever the heck I have it and I'll
put it on.


"Antonio Torrecillas" wrote in message
...
En/na The Masked Bishop ha escrit:
Actually, I did beat an 1800+ once...as Black! One of my best games, I
went
out of my usual box and played an sacrificial line of the Scandinavian
(where you don't reclaim the pawn), figuring what the hell, I'm going to
lose anyway, might as well go down screaming in flames...

BUT, he unwisely fianchettoed on the Kingside, giving me a lovely
target...game ended in a suprise middle-game mate! I was a
1200-something
player at the time, so I drag that one out during brag sessions.

--TMB

After those words, we would like to have a look at that game!! :-)

thanks
AT