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My new column on Finding the Best Move has been posted at http://www.chesscafe.com/heisman/heisman.htm. If you have any comments or questions, please e-mail me directly; I often don't follow up and check these threads. Best wishes, NM Dan Heisman www.chess.fm Q&A show Monday nights from 7-9 PM Eastern |
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"Dan Heisman" wrote in message ... Hi! My new column on Finding the Best Move has been posted at http://www.chesscafe.com/heisman/heisman.htm. If you have any comments or questions, please e-mail me directly; I often don't follow up and check these threads. Best wishes, NM Dan Heisman www.chess.fm Q&A show Monday nights from 7-9 PM Eastern Dan, I have not read your column, but there is no such a thing as "the best move", unless it's mate in one. Then, we know what the best move is. Otherwise, we do not know what the best move is. The concept: "play the best moves and you will win" is something that even GM Palatnik makes fun of ! -- Yours Truly Nick Beqo www.nickbeqo.com |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:08:30 -0800, "Nick" wrote:
Dan, I have not read your column, but there is no such a thing as "the best move", unless it's mate in one. Then, we know what the best move is. Otherwise, we do not know what the best move is. The concept: "play the best moves and you will win" is something that even GM Palatnik makes fun of ! So, after 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Qg5?????? "Nick" doesn't think there is a best move for white, eh? Interesting concept. Unbelievably silly, but interesting. |
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"Ed Seedhouse" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:08:30 -0800, "Nick" wrote: Dan, I have not read your column, but there is no such a thing as "the best move", unless it's mate in one. Then, we know what the best move is. Otherwise, we do not know what the best move is. The concept: "play the best moves and you will win" is something that even GM Palatnik makes fun of ! So, after 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Qg5?????? "Nick" doesn't think there is a best move for white, eh? Interesting concept. Unbelievably silly, but interesting. Dear Ed, Unbelievably silly example, but interesting. You put question marks after Qg5. That's because Qg5 is a blunder, right? Yes, this is the same case as in mate on one. After your opponent blunders (material), you know what the best move is. Talking about "normal " chess, we cannot talk about the best move. Otherwise we would not be able to talk about chess styles and personalities. To understand such a concept I recommend taking some chess lessons from GM Palatnik. You can contact him at -- Yours Truly Nick Beqo www.nickbeqo.com |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:17:13 -0800, "Nick" wrote:
I have not read your column, but there is no such a thing as "the best move", unless it's mate in one. So, after 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Qg5?????? "Nick" doesn't think there is a best move for white, eh? Interesting concept. Unbelievably silly, but interesting. You put question marks after Qg5. That's because Qg5 is a blunder, right? Yes, this is the same case as in mate on one. After your opponent blunders (material), you know what the best move is. Ah, silly me, I thought that when "Nick" said "mate in one" that's what he actually meant!!! Obviously an elementary mistake about how "Nick" talks. But then, how am I to ever know what "Nick" actually means when he says something? Perhaps the simplest thing is to just put "Nick" into the old ignore file that Agent handily provides me. Yep, sounds like a good idea to me.... |
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Ed Seedhouse wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:17:13 -0800, "Nick" wrote: I have not read your column, but there is no such a thing as "the best move", unless it's mate in one. So, after 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Qg5?????? "Nick" doesn't think there is a best move for white, eh? Interesting concept. Unbelievably silly, but interesting. You put question marks after Qg5. That's because Qg5 is a blunder, right? Yes, this is the same case as in mate on one. After your opponent blunders (material), you know what the best move is. Ah, silly me, I thought that when "Nick" said "mate in one" that's what he actually meant!!! Obviously an elementary mistake about how "Nick" talks. But then, how am I to ever know what "Nick" actually means when he says something? Perhaps the simplest thing is to just put "Nick" into the old ignore file that Agent handily provides me. Yep, sounds like a good idea to me.... Somebody's getting killfiled (again), but it ain't Nick. plonk --Harold Buck "I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ." -Homer J. Simpson |
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Dan Heisman wrote in message ...
Hi! My new column on Finding the Best Move has been posted at http://www.chesscafe.com/heisman/heisman.htm. If you have any comments or questions, please e-mail me directly; I often don't follow up and check these threads. Best wishes, NM Dan Heisman www.chess.fm Q&A show Monday nights from 7-9 PM Eastern The column Finding the Best Move claims that if a player wins 5% of games played, there is [statistically] a 500-point rating difference against him. I claim that if a player wins 5% and draws 95%, this is not so. I also claim that the "best" move is not always the most useful move. The best move may lead to a position that the player knows is won, but also knows he hasn't the skill to pursue that win. The most useful move may be the move that gives him the practical winning choices that he needs. Dan Heisman's point of view is a useful one, if one pursues an objective analysis of positions. But the player who asserts that his move was best may not mean objectively best, but practically best given his own ability. David Ames |
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"David Ames" wrote in message om... Dan Heisman wrote in message ... Hi! My new column on Finding the Best Move has been posted at http://www.chesscafe.com/heisman/heisman.htm. If you have any comments or questions, please e-mail me directly; I often don't follow up and check these threads. Best wishes, NM Dan Heisman www.chess.fm Q&A show Monday nights from 7-9 PM Eastern The column Finding the Best Move claims that if a player wins 5% of games played, there is [statistically] a 500-point rating difference against him. I claim that if a player wins 5% and draws 95%, this is not so. I also claim that the "best" move is not always the most useful move. The best move may lead to a position that the player knows is won, but also knows he hasn't the skill to pursue that win. The most useful move may be the move that gives him the practical winning choices that he needs. Sorry to quote another e-zine, but GM Bezgodov addresses just this point in an article at www.chessville.com in an article "Lessons Learned". Cordially, Phil Innes Dan Heisman's point of view is a useful one, if one pursues an objective analysis of positions. But the player who asserts that his move was best may not mean objectively best, but practically best given his own ability. David Ames |
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"Nick" wrote in message ... "Dan Heisman" wrote in message ... Hi! My new column on Finding the Best Move has been posted at http://www.chesscafe.com/heisman/heisman.htm. If you have any comments or questions, please e-mail me directly; I often don't follow up and check these threads. Best wishes, NM Dan Heisman www.chess.fm Q&A show Monday nights from 7-9 PM Eastern Dan, I have not read your column, but there is no such a thing as "the best move", unless it's mate in one. Then, we know what the best move is. Otherwise, we do not know what the best move is. Absolute nonsense!! That sort of generalizing is the halmark of a weak player.....and a weak mind for that matter. There are many positions that are not "mate in one" that clearly have a "best move". For example, what about a position that contains a mate in 5 (all forcing of course) and there is only one move that can be played to execute the mate in 5. This clearly would be the "best move". There are numerous other positions in which there is a "best move" as well. The concept: "play the best moves and you will win" is something that even GM Palatnik makes fun of ! -- Yours Truly Nick Beqo www.nickbeqo.com |
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