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Old February 4th 04, 11:18 AM
Ian Hurley
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Is it just me, or are the majority of people who play on ICC unbelievably
rude ? If you beat them, they abuse you verbally. If they beat you, they
gloat and remark on your poor strength. I have encountered dozens and dozens
of players like this. It doesn't seem to be a problem on the Chessbase
server, or any other chess server I've played on.

Has anyone else noticed this?


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Old February 4th 04, 01:16 PM
EZoto
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You just have to find the right crowd in ICC. Whether I win or lose I
always say gg or a handshake. What they do in response will tell you
whether it's worth playing them or not. If there is no response then
I assume they don't know english so I play a second game. Win or lose
I say gg or handshake. If no response the second time then I don't
even bother because most likely they are computer assisted. 99% of
the time I'm right because when I seek for a third game and ignore
there challenge even if I have lost or won both games against them
they respond with expletives. You just have to know how to get around
and know the right people to play.

EZoto
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Old February 4th 04, 02:48 PM
David Richerby
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EZoto wrote:
You just have to find the right crowd in ICC. Whether I win or lose I
always say gg or a handshake.


I'll always thank my opponent for the game unless they've been obnoxious
but I won't claim the game was good unless it actually was.


Dave.

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Old February 4th 04, 04:32 PM
ian burton
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"Ian Hurley" wrote in message
...
Is it just me, or are the majority of people who play on ICC unbelievably
rude ? If you beat them, they abuse you verbally. If they beat you, they
gloat and remark on your poor strength. I have encountered dozens and

dozens
of players like this. It doesn't seem to be a problem on the Chessbase
server, or any other chess server I've played on.

Has anyone else noticed this?


I don't find the charge true -- not for the majority -- but I play only
5-minute chess, which doesn't give much time for chit-chat. My view may be
skewed because of that.
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Old February 4th 04, 05:20 PM
Denis Kholodar
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I disagree about the majority, but some certainly are. I also have
been cursed at a few times. Some people keep telling - "you played a
poor dragon" even though it may be true but they are losing. Once such
people are behind computers anonimously they just can't resist it I
think. Recently I had a couple of opponents adjorn the game when there
was either mate in one on the board or hopeless position. I wonder how
it is possible to adjorn the game like that on ICC? When I fingered
that person (ChessXpert) it said he never played any games, but he had
an established rating (blitz 22xx) a moment ago - weird.


Denis

"Ian Hurley" wrote in message ...
Is it just me, or are the majority of people who play on ICC unbelievably
rude ? If you beat them, they abuse you verbally. If they beat you, they
gloat and remark on your poor strength. I have encountered dozens and dozens
of players like this. It doesn't seem to be a problem on the Chessbase
server, or any other chess server I've played on.

Has anyone else noticed this?

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Old February 4th 04, 06:25 PM
michael adams
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Default Attitude Problems on ICC

Ian Hurley wrote:

Is it just me, or are the majority of people who play on ICC unbelievably
rude ? If you beat them, they abuse you verbally. If they beat you, they
gloat and remark on your poor strength. I have encountered dozens and dozens
of players like this. It doesn't seem to be a problem on the Chessbase
server, or any other chess server I've played on.

Has anyone else noticed this?


Ach! it's not just you. ICC is the best chess server in my view & the
stuff you mention is 'nothing' relative to the 'adults' who play well &
vulgarly disconnect when they sense a loss (theirs). As if they don't
know how to push the resign button. Very unsporting behaviour 'old-boy'
& no! the crud a turkey craps ain't pure gold & you have to wonder who
convinced 'them' - their's is?..

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Old February 4th 04, 06:58 PM
michael adams
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Default Attitude Problems on ICC

David Richerby wrote:

EZoto wrote:
You just have to find the right crowd in ICC. Whether I win or lose I
always say gg or a handshake.


I'll always thank my opponent for the game unless they've been obnoxious
but I won't claim the game was good unless it actually was.

Dave.


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Emm, I concur with the above sentiment Dave & the glib 'gg' has always
'****ed' me off, but the gruppen has done this 'bugbear' to death
previous. ICC allows one to automate responses like 'gg' etc. & play
again etc. so that after crushing an obvious 'patzer' you're
automatically presented with the wonderous opportunity of playing this
fine fellow again. He doesn't want it, you don't want it - but he's got
'that' option ticked in his 'formula'. After 2 or 3 desultory moves,
simply whack the 'abort' command. Everyone happy now. Incidentally, I've
noticed more & more players on ICC with the 'chat' function set to
'off'..

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Old February 5th 04, 12:27 AM
Paul Herzman
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THANK YOU!!! There's hardly anything that I find more irritating than
having someone say "gg" after I've just blundered a rook ( or even if I won
and it was a poorly played game.)
For the record, I always say "thank you" when I lose and nothing at all
when I win unless my opponent says something first.
Paul Herzman
"David Richerby" wrote in message
...
EZoto wrote:
You just have to find the right crowd in ICC. Whether I win or lose I
always say gg or a handshake.


I'll always thank my opponent for the game unless they've been obnoxious
but I won't claim the game was good unless it actually was.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Crystal Zen Goldfish (TM): it's

like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a fish that puts you in touch

with
the universe but it's completely
transparent!



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Old February 5th 04, 03:42 AM
buh bye
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Default Attitude Problems on ICC

There is clearly a small group of players who will type abusive
comments after losing a game, but I don't think they are exclusive to
ICC, they are everywhere in online chess. I adopted a policy about
two years ago of not talking to my opponents, just show up, play the
game, and sign off, and this has saved me lots of headaches. Once in
a rare while I'll discuss something, but usually not.

I think the vast majority of people who type "good game" have the best
of intentions, but I think this is a chess uncultured thing to do, it
isn't a childhood soccer match, and when I drop my Queen by accident,
resign in disgrace a few moves later, a "good game" from the opponent
is just salt in the wound, but they don't seem to realize it, so I
just ignore it anymore.
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Old February 5th 04, 03:59 AM
Dan Schmidt
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"Paul Herzman" writes:

| THANK YOU!!! There's hardly anything that I find more irritating than
| having someone say "gg" after I've just blundered a rook ( or even if I won
| and it was a poorly played game.)
| For the record, I always say "thank you" when I lose and nothing at all
| when I win unless my opponent says something first.

Yeah, I have learned not to say anything when I win, since once in a
while someone will go off the deep end at me.

When I lose I often say 'good game', but I often receive silence in
reply, which feels like extending a hand for a handshake and watching
the other person refuse it.

If the game was really exciting I will add an exclamation point to
'good game' to make it clear that I specifically enjoyed this one and
am not just being polite.

Sometimes we'll end up having a short chat about the game but for the
most part I've resigned myself to ICC being a pretty impersonal place.

Dan

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