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Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!



 
 
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Old March 2nd 04, 06:48 PM
KRCH
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!

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Old March 2nd 04, 07:53 PM
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!

I'll tell you.....I have never seen Leko blunder so badly and so blatantly.
I think that Leko had good winning prospects that game, and certainly no
possibility of losing......in the absence of a blunder.

Perhaps there is something to Fischer's claims about pre-arrangement. And
interesting thing to note......the odds on Kramnik to win that game were
11-1 on Betsson. Someone got a nice payday.




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Old March 2nd 04, 07:55 PM
Joshua B. Lilly
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!

Actually, it looked like the challenger was better for most of that game,
and the Champ got out by a bit of error on Leko`s part. Not sure how much
of a beating that was, I think Leko was doing more beating overall. ;-)
Too bad it turned out how it did. Kramnik took care of the inaccurate play
from Leko in harsh style with the fine 34...Qc2! I wonder how Leko could
have proceeded differently. The commentators on ICC and chess.fm seemed to
think 32.Rad7 was a decisive mistake.


(2) Leko(GM) (2722) - Kramnik(GM) (2777) [B33]
Linares Linares, Spain (11), 02.03.2004


1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5
9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 f5 11.Bd3 Be6 12.0-0 Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7 14.Qh5 e4 15.Be2
Bg7 16.c3 Rc8 17.Nc2 Rc5 18.Ne3 f4 19.Nf5 0-0 20.a4 Nxf5 21.Qxf5 Qe7 22.axb5
axb5 23.Qxf4 Rxd5 24.Rfd1 Re5 25.Qe3 f5 26.Qb6 f4 27.Qxd6 Qg5 28.f3 e3
29.Ra7 Kh8 30.Qd7 Rg8 31.Qh3 Qg6 32.Rad7 Rh5 33.R7d6 Bf6 34.Rxf6 Qc2 35.Qxh5
Qxe2 36.g4 Qf2+ 0-1



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Old March 2nd 04, 08:14 PM
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!


"Joshua B. Lilly" wrote in message
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Actually, it looked like the challenger was better for most of that game,
and the Champ got out by a bit of error on Leko`s part. Not sure how much
of a beating that was, I think Leko was doing more beating overall. ;-)
Too bad it turned out how it did. Kramnik took care of the inaccurate

play
from Leko in harsh style with the fine 34...Qc2! I wonder how Leko could
have proceeded differently. The commentators on ICC and chess.fm seemed

to
think 32.Rad7 was a decisive mistake.



32. Rad7?? was the blunder that lost the game, but 31. Qh3? seemed pretty
questionable also




(2) Leko(GM) (2722) - Kramnik(GM) (2777) [B33]
Linares Linares, Spain (11), 02.03.2004


1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3

b5
9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 f5 11.Bd3 Be6 12.0-0 Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7 14.Qh5 e4 15.Be2
Bg7 16.c3 Rc8 17.Nc2 Rc5 18.Ne3 f4 19.Nf5 0-0 20.a4 Nxf5 21.Qxf5 Qe7

22.axb5
axb5 23.Qxf4 Rxd5 24.Rfd1 Re5 25.Qe3 f5 26.Qb6 f4 27.Qxd6 Qg5 28.f3 e3
29.Ra7 Kh8 30.Qd7 Rg8 31.Qh3 Qg6 32.Rad7 Rh5 33.R7d6 Bf6 34.Rxf6 Qc2

35.Qxh5
Qxe2 36.g4 Qf2+ 0-1



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Old March 2nd 04, 09:52 PM
Phil Innes
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!


"Joshua B. Lilly" wrote in message
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Actually, it looked like the challenger was better for most of that game,
and the Champ got out by a bit of error on Leko`s part. Not sure how much
of a beating that was, I think Leko was doing more beating overall. ;-)
Too bad it turned out how it did. Kramnik took care of the inaccurate

play
from Leko in harsh style with the fine 34...Qc2! I wonder how Leko could
have proceeded differently. The commentators on ICC and chess.fm seemed

to
think 32.Rad7 was a decisive mistake.


Yes. But the Pelikan tempts white to adventure, and the late move Qc2 must
have been completely overlooked by Leko who had also jammed his Queen at h3,
nevermind Rad7.

I notice that KRCH advertises on the Kramnik site 28.01.2004. The Swiss
tobacco company Dannemann has just announced that the Classical Chess World
Championship between Vladimir Kramnik and Peter Leko
will be staged from September 25 to October 18, at a still to be disclosed
location.

If you have the patience to penetrate the tobacco company's website, please
post more details here. It is rather remarkable that Leko has been chosen
instead of Pono, Kasparov or Anand, but I suppose Fide will offer us an
explanation in a month or three.

What actually qualifies Peter Leko in front of these other claimants?

Phil Innes

(2) Leko(GM) (2722) - Kramnik(GM) (2777) [B33]
Linares Linares, Spain (11), 02.03.2004


1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3

b5
9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 f5 11.Bd3 Be6 12.0-0 Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7 14.Qh5 e4 15.Be2
Bg7 16.c3 Rc8 17.Nc2 Rc5 18.Ne3 f4 19.Nf5 0-0 20.a4 Nxf5 21.Qxf5 Qe7

22.axb5
axb5 23.Qxf4 Rxd5 24.Rfd1 Re5 25.Qe3 f5 26.Qb6 f4 27.Qxd6 Qg5 28.f3 e3
29.Ra7 Kh8 30.Qd7 Rg8 31.Qh3 Qg6 32.Rad7 Rh5 33.R7d6 Bf6 34.Rxf6 Qc2

35.Qxh5
Qxe2 36.g4 Qf2+ 0-1



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Old March 2nd 04, 10:24 PM
Andreas Walkenhorst
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!


"Phil Innes" wrote in message
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What actually qualifies Peter Leko in front of these other claimants?


Simply that Leko qualified in the official qualification tourney. Seems to
be a bit out of date, but *this* kind of qualification was - strangely
enough - possible this time (this time I will *not* ask what qualifies
Kasparov as he refused to play the qualifier...). The Pono case is a
different story, but he had his chance, no matter if he was betrayed by FIDE
or if his management is nuts.

Andreas


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Old March 2nd 04, 11:05 PM
Jerzy
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!

"Andreas Walkenhorst" wrote in message
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The Pono case is a
different story, but he had his chance, no matter if he was betrayed by

FIDE
or if his management is nuts.


I`m of a different opinion. Of course I`ve heard many opinions like yours :
let him play with big "bad" Kaspy maybe he would learn sth but on the other
hand the match would be organized against any civilized rules.

Remember FIscher withdrawing from Sousse ? Many people thought that he
missed a chance to become a WCCHamp then. ;-)

BTW I don`t think Kramnik has a big legitimacy as a reigning WCChamp... Even
his sponsor Braingames dissoluted and dissappeared ;-)

Regards,
Jerzy


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Old March 3rd 04, 06:51 PM
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!

"Linares__Lulls" wrote in message news:TC51c.669505$X%5.461401@pd7tw2no...
I'll tell you.....I have never seen Leko blunder so badly and so blatantly.
I think that Leko had good winning prospects that game, and certainly no
possibility of losing......in the absence of a blunder.

Perhaps there is something to Fischer's claims about pre-arrangement. And
interesting thing to note......the odds on Kramnik to win that game were
11-1 on Betsson. Someone got a nice payday.




Today was simillar odds in Kramnik-Kasparov, but draw-
please explain..

You are always welcome to place bets on chess games on:

http://www.chessbets.narod.ru

We had collected links to all serious bookmakers taking bets on chess.
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Old March 3rd 04, 07:00 PM
Linares__Lulls
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!


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"Linares__Lulls" wrote in message

news:TC51c.669505$X%5.461401@pd7tw2no...
I'll tell you.....I have never seen Leko blunder so badly and so

blatantly.
I think that Leko had good winning prospects that game, and certainly no
possibility of losing......in the absence of a blunder.

Perhaps there is something to Fischer's claims about pre-arrangement.

And
interesting thing to note......the odds on Kramnik to win that game were
11-1 on Betsson. Someone got a nice payday.




Today was simillar odds in Kramnik-Kasparov, but draw-
please explain..



11-1? bull****. there were no 11-1 odds on Kramnik Kasparov


You are always welcome to place bets on chess games on:

http://www.chessbets.narod.ru

We had collected links to all serious bookmakers taking bets on chess.



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Old March 4th 04, 11:59 AM
ChessPromo
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Default Kramnik beat LEko with black...and took the lead as real WORLD champion!

"Linares__Lulls" wrote in message news:yXp1c.677237$X%5.142094@pd7tw2no...
"ChessPromo" wrote in message
m...
"Linares__Lulls" wrote in message

news:TC51c.669505$X%5.461401@pd7tw2no...
I'll tell you.....I have never seen Leko blunder so badly and so

blatantly.
I think that Leko had good winning prospects that game, and certainly no
possibility of losing......in the absence of a blunder.

Perhaps there is something to Fischer's claims about pre-arrangement.

And
interesting thing to note......the odds on Kramnik to win that game were
11-1 on Betsson. Someone got a nice payday.




Today was simillar odds in Kramnik-Kasparov, but draw-
please explain..



11-1? bull****. there were no 11-1 odds on Kramnik Kasparov



Had you check section "specials" on GB link on our site?
The price was 8.2 which is similliar to 11.



You are always welcome to place bets on chess games on:

http://www.chessbets.narod.ru

We had collected links to all serious bookmakers taking bets on chess.

 




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