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Why is ChessCafe running the USCF book/equipment sales???



 
 
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Old March 11th 04, 02:55 PM
Etj718
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Default Why is ChessCafe running the USCF book/equipment sales???

(Perhaps I will add the question, "Who was USCF's shortest-serving
chief executive officer?" to my chess trivia game.)


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Old March 11th 04, 11:35 PM
Jane Adams
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You mean the reports where Caballo and Clink lied?

1998 was five years ago too.

Jane
http://users.lvcm.com/jadams

"Doctor Who" wrote in message
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Hi,

I don't quite understand why the USCF is giving up on selling
equipment and giving the service to another company.

In 1998, I had looked at a budget financial report saying that the
USCF earned over 2 million dollars in revenues from sales. Not quite
sure why it is letting another organization take it.

well thanks for any info you can give.



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Old March 11th 04, 11:37 PM
Jane Adams
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You mean like: "Driving my Taxi [into the East River] and out of Miss
Vader's court"?

Everything Sam writes must be filtered through the three lenses of
prevarication, deceit, and miss trust (no, not the kids slush fund).

Jane

"StanB" wrote in message
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"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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What happened is that the USCF refused to agree to sell Tim Hanke's
Chess Trivia Game on a drop ship basis. In retaliation, Tim Hanke ran
for election, as a way to force the USCF to sell his game.

After being elected, Tim Hanke at first expressed satisfaction with
the USCF B&E operation, but when the USCF still would not agree to
publish and sell Tim's game, Tim got himself elected VP of Finance and
started looking for someone else who would be willing to sell his
game. Malcolm Pein in England came forward and Tim Hanke decided to
give away the entire USCF B&E operation to Pein in return for which
Pein would consider publishing Hanke's game.

Then Goichberg got himself appointed Executive Director and before the
B&E operation could be handed over to Pein, Goichberg said that he
could make a better deal. He got Chess Cafe to agree to a better deal
with some financial guarantees which Pein was unwilling to offer and
that is how Chess Cafe got the deal.

Meanwhiule, Hanke has been sulking and the fate of his Chess Trivia
game is unknown, at least to us.


A newsgroup first. Sam writes a parody.

StanB




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Old March 12th 04, 01:03 AM
Angelo DePalma
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It's a way of getting more organs.

"Doctor Who" wrote in message
m...
Hi,

I don't quite understand why the USCF is giving up on selling
equipment and giving the service to another company.

In 1998, I had looked at a budget financial report saying that the
USCF earned over 2 million dollars in revenues from sales. Not quite
sure why it is letting another organization take it.

well thanks for any info you can give.



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Old March 12th 04, 09:21 AM
Terry
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"Ray Gordon" wrote in message
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Tim,

You forgot to mention the trip to Iraq to capture Saddam in between!


LOL


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Old March 12th 04, 10:53 PM
Geoff
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"Roger" wrote in message
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Something doesn't add up..

If the USCF was losing money doing B&E, how can Chess Cafe afford to
handle the same sales, pay the USCF 15% of the gross, forgo tournament
concessions, pay for advertisements in Chess Life and still make
money?


Because the USCF is totally incompetent. Lots of vendors make money on B&E,
the USCF has managed to lose money over the last several years. Who knows
how, but they did it. AND with terrible service to boot. ChessCafe,
WorldWide Chess SuperStore, ChessHouse, etc, etc. all make money because
they are not run by idiots.

I am sure that many will scream about how it is because the USCF is
inept. But we're talking about a 20%+ swing here. Costs like Personnel
and Merchandise are fixed and roughly the same between the two
companies and probably comprise 75% of the costs. There has to be
something more to explain this. Because it really doesn't add up.


It does not add up because most people can't begin to fathom just how
screwed up the USCF is.

It will be interesting to see what happens.


I agree. Even if the USCF does not make any money, not losing money will be
a big improvement.

Geoff


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Old March 13th 04, 04:37 PM
Angelo DePalma
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As I've posted before I have purchased a large number of the aforementioned
Chess Trivia game but now I'd like a refund. The answer to all 18 questions
whose numbers are divisible by 327 is apparently "organ." I cannot believe
there are that many "organ" in the world of chess.

For example:

* (question 327) to whom did Spassky appeal his paltry proposed WC prize?
Answer: organ.
* (question 654) what was baroque chess master J.S. Bach's preferred musical
instrument? Answer: organ
* (question 981) Complete this sentence: IM Anthony Saidy, a medical doctor,
once shouted "Dumkopf, you remooffed der wronk..." Answer: organ

I got in touch with Tim's marketing department several times but they do not
return calls. My credit card company is similarly unsympathetic. They
pointed out the clause in my agreement which specifically prohibits refunds
for a variety of purchases, eg. weapons of mass destruction, entries to
"chess events sponsored by CCA," and "games of trivia."

Please don't kill this thread because the word "organ" appears too many
times.


"Tim Hanke" wrote in message
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"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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On 10 Mar 2004 19:15:01 -0800, (Doctor Who)
wrote:

Hi,

I don't quite understand why the USCF is giving up on selling
equipment and giving the service to another company.

In 1998, I had looked at a budget financial report saying that the
USCF earned over 2 million dollars in revenues from sales. Not quite
sure why it is letting another organization take it.

well thanks for any info you can give.


What happened is that the USCF refused to agree to sell Tim Hanke's
Chess Trivia Game on a drop ship basis. In retaliation, Tim Hanke ran
for election, as a way to force the USCF to sell his game.

After being elected, Tim Hanke at first expressed satisfaction with
the USCF B&E operation, but when the USCF still would not agree to
publish and sell Tim's game, Tim got himself elected VP of Finance and
started looking for someone else who would be willing to sell his
game. Malcolm Pein in England came forward and Tim Hanke decided to
give away the entire USCF B&E operation to Pein in return for which
Pein would consider publishing Hanke's game.

Then Goichberg got himself appointed Executive Director and before the
B&E operation could be handed over to Pein, Goichberg said that he
could make a better deal. He got Chess Cafe to agree to a better deal
with some financial guarantees which Pein was unwilling to offer and
that is how Chess Cafe got the deal.

Meanwhiule, Hanke has been sulking and the fate of his Chess Trivia
game is unknown, at least to us.

Sam Sloan


Sam forgot to add that I sexually harassed Susan Polgar because she and

Paul
Truong refused to sell my chess trivia game at the Polgar Chess Center.

Also I fired 18 people at USCF on Aug. 20, 2003 because they wrote a

letter
of protest about my chess trivia game. Chess Life Editor Peter Kurzdorfer
refused to give me free ads in Chess Life for my chess trivia game, so he
was the first to go.

That same week I installed my sock puppet Mike Nolan as interim USCF
Executive Director, intending that he should force USCF to sell my chess
trivia game. When Nolan unexpectedly refused, I had my agents torch his

home
in Nebraska and I fired his ass back to the Midwest. Thanks to my chess
trivia game, Nolan had a shorter term as USCF ED than anyone in
history--even shorter than Grant Perks, whom I later fired for the same
reason. (Perhaps I will add the question, "Who was USCF's shortest-serving
chief executive officer?" to my chess trivia game.)

Goichberg has not yet decided what to do about my chess trivia game. From

my
point of view, this will be the key issue of his tenure as Executive
Director, not the books & equipment outsourcing or whether USCF can pay

its
bills.

Tim Hanke




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Old March 15th 04, 08:45 AM
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"Tim Hanke" wrote in message
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Lots of stuff about Tim Hanke's Chess Trivia Game SNIPPED

Thanks Tim, gave me a great laugh!!

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Old March 15th 04, 08:47 AM
Simon
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Tim,

Have you got a 'Chess Trivia Game' ?

Simon
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Old March 15th 04, 06:46 PM
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"Simon" wrote in message
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Tim,

Have you got a 'Chess Trivia Game' ?

Simon


Simon,

Yes; it's fully designed--game board, game box, rules pamphlet, and most of
the game cards--I even found a company to produce it at reasonable expense,
and I purchased photo rights for all photos whose owners I could find (IM
David Levy very kindly gave me permission to use one of his Fischer photos
free of charge). But the "reasonable expense" for production is a bit too
much for me to manage at the moment. :-) So the project is in mothballs for
now, so to speak, and is expected to remain there indefinitely, possibly
forever.

Tim Hanke


 




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