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Regarding "Meurice's" I had this reply from a helpful French newsgroup:
Oui, il y avait un hôtel Meurice à Paris. Il est situé au 226, rue de Rivoli. Voici son adresse internet : http://www.meuricehotel.com Whether the same hotel was there in 1858 is not clear to me. Regards, John Townsend |
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Let me explain why I enquired where Morphy was staying in Paris.
In a letter to "The Field", published 27 November 1858, Staunton wrote: " ... and, thirdly, because I had already written to a friend in Paris with whom, through my introduction, Mr. Morphy was living upon intimate terms, an explanation touching the notice Mr. Morphy professes to be so concerned at; and from my friend's reply, which intimated that Mr. M. was about to write to me in an amicable spirit, I of course supposed there was an end to the matter ..." (Acknowledgement to "Howard Staunton 1810-1874" by David Levy, 1975) I initially took "living" to mean dwelling with, but it has occurred to me since that Staunton meant merely that Morphy was having daily social contact with Staunton's friend. Morphy subsequently denied that he had any introduction whatever from Staunton to any friend of his in Paris or France, or that he had any knowledge of Staunton's explanation, or that he had led anybody to suppose that he was intending further correspondence with Staunton on the subject. Can anyone throw light on this mystery, please? Who was the friend? Or should we accept Morphy's implication that the introduction was a complete fabrication by Staunton? Best wishes, John Townsend Howard Staunton research project: http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk/page7.html |
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John Townsend wrote:
Or should we accept Morphy's implication that the introduction was a complete fabrication by Staunton? There is at least one more possibility: it could also have been a complete fabrication on the part of Staunton's friend, whoever it may have been. -- Anders Thulin ath*algonet.se http://www.algonet.se/~ath |
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John Townsend wrote:
Let me explain why I enquired where Morphy was staying in Paris. In a letter to "The Field", published 27 November 1858, Staunton wrote: " ... and, thirdly, because I had already written to a friend in Paris with whom, through my introduction, Mr. Morphy was living upon intimate terms, an explanation touching the notice Mr. Morphy professes to be so concerned at; and from my friend's reply, which intimated that Mr. M. was about to write to me in an amicable spirit, I of course supposed there was an end to the matter ..." (Acknowledgement to "Howard Staunton 1810-1874" by David Levy, 1975) I initially took "living" to mean dwelling with, but it has occurred to me since that Staunton meant merely that Morphy was having daily social contact with Staunton's friend. Morphy subsequently denied that he had any introduction whatever from Staunton to any friend of his in Paris or France, or that he had any knowledge of Staunton's explanation, or that he had led anybody to suppose that he was intending further correspondence with Staunton on the subject. Can anyone throw light on this mystery, please? Who was the friend? Or should we accept Morphy's implication that the introduction was a complete fabrication by Staunton? _ This matter was discussed in Edward Winter's Chess Notes feature #1932. G. H. Diggle came up with a conjecture about what might have happened. What I am about to present is an elaboration and slight modification of what he proposed while trying to clearly separate what is known from what is just guesswork: Known: On August 28, 1858, at a time when Staunton was still privately putting off the proposed Morphy -Staunton match, Staunton's Illustrated London News column portrayed Staunton as waiting for Morphy. Guess: Knowing that Morphy was going to Paris, Staunton wrote to Jules Arnous de Riviere, telling him to expect Morphy. Known: Frederick Milns Edge's book mentions a discussion between Edge and the "dame du comptoir" at the Cafe de la Regence in Paris on September 1, 1858. Edge wrote that he was told that de Riviere "had just received a letter from a friend in London, apprising him that [Morphy] had left the English capital, and was en route for Paris." Known: Morphy became friends with de Riviere, even setting out to collaborate with him on a (never finished) book on the openings. Known: On October 6, 1858, Morphy sent a letter that publicly complained about the misleading August 28 Staunton column. Known: A considerable public row started with individuals (calling themselves "Fair Play" and "M. A.") defending Staunton and attacking Morphy, while Edge and others defended Morphy and attacked Staunton. Known: Staunton sent a private reply to Morphy on October 9, 1858, making no reference to the August 28, 1858 column, and informing Morphy of his decision to cancel the match. Guess: Staunton wrote privately to de Riviere, asking him to convey privately to Morphy Staunton's apology for the August 28, 1858 column. Guess: De Riviere (on some occasion when Edge was not present) spoke briefly about the matter to Morphy, saying something like, "You know Staunton really is sorry about the August column," and Morphy replied with something like, "Never mind," and indicated that he would be writing to Staunton. Guess: De Riviere wrote to Staunton, predicting that he would soon receive a letter from Morphy "in an amicable spirit." Known: Edge wrote that he talked Morphy out of writing a private letter to Staunton, arguing that, in view of Staunton's behavior, all communication should be public. Known: Staunton's October 23, 1858 column reproduced part of Morphy's October 6 public letter, leaving out any reference to the August 28, 1858 column. Staunton's October 9, 1858 letter (that ignored the August column matter and announced the cancellation of the match) was also reproduced. Known: The public row continued, touching on the August column and other matters. Staunton's November 20, 1858 column mentioned that he had "written to a friend in Paris with whom, through my introduction, Mr. Morphy was living upon intimate terms, an explanation touching [the August 28, 1858 column]" and that Staunton's "friend's reply .... intimated that Mr. Morphy was about to write to me in an amicable spirit". Known: Towards the end of 1858, Morphy was having health problems. (The New York Times mentioned "an attack of the influenza".) Also, Edge mentioned that he answered letters that were sent to Morphy. Guess: Without knowing about Staunton's contact with de Riviere or Morphy's brief discussion with de Riviere (and assuming that he would know if what Staunton had written was true) Edge wrote on behalf of Morphy to the Field. Known: In the Field, on November 27, 1858, it was reported that "Mr. Morphy had no introduction whatever from Mr. Staunton to any friend of his in Paris or France. ..." Guess: Staunton realized that some might think it had been an exaggeration for him to have characterized his August letter to de Riviere as an "introduction". He also did not want it to become generally known that he had admitted that there was anything wrong with his August column. He therefore decided to say no more about the matter. Guess: Morphy was sick of the whole business and decided not to say any more about it. Guess: De Riviere realized that he had perhaps not done an adequate job as an intermediary and decided not to say anything about the matter, thinking, in any event, that by December of 1858, people were getting tired of the public debate. |
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I am grateful to Louis Blair for his explanation about the "friend". It
does sound as if the friend was Arnous de Riviere, particularly as Edge received a message from him that Riviere had had a letter from a friend in London, i.e. Staunton. It seems odd that Morphy (through Edge?) issued such an emphatic denial that there had ever been an introduction, or a friend, or an explanation, or that he was intending further correpsondence with Staunton on the subject. This emphatic denial, of course, gave people the impression that Staunton had made the whole thing up, which is, clearly, not the case. John Townsend Howard Staunton research project: http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk/page7.html |
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John Townsend wrote:
Edge received a message from him that Riviere had had a letter from a friend in London, i.e. Staunton. _ In case I did not make it clear, all that we know is that Edge reported a reference to a "friend" We do not know that the friend was Staunton. That just seems like a good guess. John Townsend wrote: It seems odd that Morphy (through Edge?) issued such an emphatic denial ... _ Again, the theory is (and G. H. Diggle seemed to agree with me on this point) that Edge wrote to the Field on behalf of Morphy without actually consulting Morphy. Morphy may have been having a bad day in bed with influenza (doctors in those days believed in crazy practices such as leeching) and Edge may have felt that he would have known about it if what Staunton had described had happened. Another possibility is that the friend (whoever it was) did not make it clear that he was relaying a message directly from Staunton. Also, certainly it is possible that Morphy did not know about the letter to de Riviere that Edge mentioned in his book. Edge himself apparently did not know who the friend was. John Townsend wrote: ... is, clearly, not the case. _ My opinion is that nothing is "clear" here. Too much is guesswork. To me, this particular aspect of the Morphy-Staunton confrontation looks like communications garbled by the use of intermediaries. Since nobody seems to have made any great effort to clarify matters, I suspect that everyone was at least a little bit at fault and nobody was really greatly at fault. |
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