"David Ames" wrote in message
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"Avanti" wrote in message
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"Doctor Who" wrote in message
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Are you not allowed to eat food during a chess tournament game?

because I don't understand why Korchnoi complained about Karpov eating
yogurt during their match.

It is considered bad manners, and my opponent would not be allowed to
eat at
my board.

I see. Would he be allowed to eat at HIS board?

Fortunately, the controllers so far have ALWAYS ruled in my favour.

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because I don't understand why Korchnoi complained about Karpov eating
yogurt during their match.

The real issue is that the yoghurt was brought to Karpov when Karpov had
not
requested any. Korchnoi said that was a sort of signal sent to Karpov.


Because Karpov couldn't have told someone before the game "Bring me
yogurt at 12:30."


Good point. But it said above that Kortchnoi complained because Karpov
*hadn't* requested any.

I think it is pretty clear that somebody was trying to help one of those two
patzers by giving signals as to how they might proceed in a complex endgame
(which neither of them knew anything about). It may have been the Russian
woman Fischer was afraid to play at Knight odds. Or maybe Petrosian's wife.
It had to be a woman, because no man would be clever enough to come up with
such a scheme -- sending signals via different flavors of yogurt. You see, it
is impossible to get "caught" with this brilliant scheme, because there is no
"evidence," only tasty yogurt!

On 21 Apr 2004 21:53:09 GMT, (Mike Nolan) wrote:

"Avanti" writes:

As I remember it was deemed that depending on the flavour of the yoghurt,
was in effect some code and a way of cheating.

Ah, yes. The yoghurt code. Blueberry means you're lost--play for a draw,
peach means you're doing great, plain means simplify into an ending, etc.

Of course the USSR code was different: Mouldy meant play for a draw,
beet-flavored meant play the sacrifice line, and an empty carton meant
if you lose this game you're in BIG trouble back home, comrade.
--
Mike Nolan

This episode was the subject of a cartoonist's parody. Here is what I
wrote October 5, 1999 on rec.games.chess.misc:
__________________________
During the Karpov-Korchnoi 1978 world championship match, a comic strip
in the Los Angeles Times provided two impressions of the contest. The
name of the strip was "Scoops" written by Doug Sneyd. On August 14, he
provided an amusing parody of the yogurt affair. In the background are
the players, and standing in the foreground is Grandmaster Isaac Kashdan
providing the following commentary:

Panel 1: Karpov has finished his strawberry yogurt and castled on his
king's side!

Panel 2: As expected, Korchnoi has responded with a salami on rye and
moved his queen to K2!

Panel 3: Ladies and gentlemen, this is very exciting! Both candidates
have just been handed a Waldorf Salad!


On August 8, the first three panels show the players deep in thought. In
the final panel, both players simultaneously think, "I wonder what Bobby
Fischer would do now?"


Note: Isaac Kashdan was the outstanding chess columnist for the Los
Angeles Times for many years, including that time period.
___________________________

I subsequently bought a scanner, so here are the actual cartoons:

www.lafn.org/~ax810/scoops.htm

Clifford Stern

When in Rome do as the Roman's do...

The way I play it's not an issue...
The bread is toast about the time I am...


"Doctor Who" wrote in message
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Are you not allowed to eat food during a chess tournament game?

because I don't understand why Korchnoi complained about Karpov eating
yogurt during their match.

thanks

I believe it would be up to the opponent, the players nearby, and then the
TD.

I personally wouldn't care.

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"David Ames" wrote in message
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"Avanti" wrote in message
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"Doctor Who" wrote in message
om...
Are you not allowed to eat food during a chess tournament game?

because I don't understand why Korchnoi complained about Karpov eating
yogurt during their match.

It is considered bad manners, and my opponent would not be allowed to
eat at
my board.

I see. Would he be allowed to eat at HIS board?

Manners are different in different places. For instance, I was once
listening to Radio Exterior de Espana, and they explained that when
you bring your meal on a railroad train, you are SUPPOSED to offer to
share with others in the same compartment and they are SUPPOSED to
refuse with thanks.

When I attended a US Open in Boston, in my early twenties, I brought a
couple slices of bread and butter to eat each evening at 10, to keep
me going. I am sorry that "Doctor Who" (sorry they cancelled your TV
program) feels that this is bad manners, by himself and by no other
authorities whom he might care to identify, nor for any reason that
anyone might care to state.

David Ames

On August 8, the first three panels show the players deep in thought. In
the final panel, both players simultaneously think, "I wonder what Bobby
Fischer would do now?"

That sums up chess in the late 1970s to perfection.

Remco Gerlich wrote in message ...
["Followup-To:" header set to rec.games.chess.analysis.]
On 2004-04-21, Doctor Who wrote:
Are you not allowed to eat food during a chess tournament game?

because I don't understand why Korchnoi complained about Karpov eating
yogurt during their match.

Distracting your opponent is disallowed. I'm not saying that that was
what that complaint was about, but eating during a game is sometimes
pretty loud and in that case it's not allowed.

And then there was this guy named Kern who used to open up a can of
Planters Sunflower Kernels. I don't think blowing my mind should be
allowed

In article , "ypauls"
wrote:


"Doctor Who" wrote in message
om...
Are you not allowed to eat food during a chess tournament game?

because I don't understand why Korchnoi complained about Karpov eating
yogurt during their match.

I will quote from Ray Keene's book on the Korchnoi-Karpov match

(into to game 3)

"During the second game a yoghurt was delivered to Karpov and nobody
appeared to take any notice but when the same thing happened in game 3
the audience burst out laughing -- for by now the Great Yoghurt
Controversy, for which the match may be remembered long after the chess
has been forgotten, was in full swing.

"After the second game the Korchnoi camp, in an attempt to ease the
tension and parody some of the earlier protests, issued a formal protest
claiming that the delivery of a yoghurt could convey a kind of coded
message. "Thus a yoghurt after move 20 could signify 'we instruct you to
off a draw'; or a sliced mango could mean 'we order you to decline a
draw.' A dish of marinated quails eggs could mean 'play N-N5 at once'
and so on. The possibilities are limitless."

Bottom line: it was a joke!

(Ray Keene was Korchnoi's second in 1978.)

Remember, this was a match. Not just any match, a World Championship
match. I doubt that your typical weekend Swiss tournament would be
influenced by such subtle yoghurt codes...
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"Balser Brent" wrote:
.... I will quote from Ray Keene's book on the Korchnoi-Karpov match
.....

I believe Keene often teamed with Hartston to write chess books.

One of Hartston's books is entitled "How to Cheat at Chess". It's
hilarious! He recommends playing in the center or on the wings, depending
on whether your opponent's eyes are far apart or close together, and playing
deep in the heart of your opponent's territory or close to home, depending
on whether your opponent has long or short arms.

He also recommends the move Pawn to King's Rook Three-and-Three-Fourths, so
that it can be easily j'adoubed back to the 3rd rank if it later proves
vulnerable on the 4th. He even says this move is preferable to Pawn to
King's Rook Three-and-a-Half, because the latter would surely elicit a
demand for clarification.

Bill Smythe