I have seen pictures of this clock and it looks very nice. I don't have any experience with wind-up chess clocks at all and was
hoping to get some info.

Specifically I want to know how the time is set. For example you have a 45 min game or you have a 1:30 game. Can the clock's small
hand be set independantly of the large, or is it like a regular clock where you have to wind through many revolutions of the large
hand to get the small hand set to a particular location?

How would it work if I wanted to play several 45 minute games in a row, or even a few hour games? I want to know how the start and
stop times are set. I guess I really want to know if I will be winding like crazy or what.

Thanks for all answers,

Matt

U¿ytkownik "matt -`;'-" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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I have seen pictures of this clock and it looks very nice. I don't
have any experience with wind-up chess clocks at all and was
hoping to get some info.

Specifically I want to know how the time is set. For example you have
a 45 min game or you have a 1:30 game. Can the clock's small
hand be set independantly of the large, or is it like a regular clock
where you have to wind through many revolutions of the large
hand to get the small hand set to a particular location?

Yes, it is like a regular mechanical clock. [I suppose the "Rolland"
clock
you mention, is indeed a mechanical clock!]

How would it work if I wanted to play several 45 minute games in a
row, or even a few hour games?

You would probably set both clocks at a quarter past five and the flag
would drop at six o'clock.

I want to know how the start and
stop times are set. I guess I really want to know if I will be
winding like crazy or what.

If you don't want to turn the time backward but only forward, you
could start a long session of 45 minute games by setting the clocks
at 12.15, then 1.15, 2.15 etc., until 10.15; the small hand would never
be in the time trouble zone (if that would be a problem somehow).

isi

"isi" writes:


If you don't want to turn the time backward but only forward, you
could start a long session of 45 minute games by setting the clocks
at 12.15, then 1.15, 2.15 etc., until 10.15; the small hand would never
be in the time trouble zone (if that would be a problem somehow).

Strictly speaking, this is not quite right. It's considered correct for
the first time control (in this case, the only time control) to be at
6:00.

Most clock manufacturers caution against turning the clock BACK - but
I've never seen any real damage done, especially if you STOP the clock
before resetting it. (well, on some older clocks it was
possible to run afoul of the flag mechanism).


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"isi" wrote in message ...
U¿ytkownik "matt -`;'-" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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I have seen pictures of this clock and it looks very nice. I don't
have any experience with wind-up chess clocks at all and was
hoping to get some info.

Specifically I want to know how the time is set. For example you have
a 45 min game or you have a 1:30 game. Can the clock's small
hand be set independantly of the large, or is it like a regular clock
where you have to wind through many revolutions of the large
hand to get the small hand set to a particular location?

Yes, it is like a regular mechanical clock. [I suppose the "Rolland"
clock
you mention, is indeed a mechanical clock!]

How would it work if I wanted to play several 45 minute games in a
row, or even a few hour games?

You would probably set both clocks at a quarter past five and the flag
would drop at six o'clock.

I want to know how the start and
stop times are set. I guess I really want to know if I will be
winding like crazy or what.

If you don't want to turn the time backward but only forward, you
could start a long session of 45 minute games by setting the clocks
at 12.15, then 1.15, 2.15 etc., until 10.15; the small hand would never
be in the time trouble zone (if that would be a problem somehow).

isi


So if I understand this correctly, if I played an hour and a half long game I would have to reset each side's clock because a flag
would fall after 1 hour. Assumedly 1 hour being the maximum time that can be set before a flag falls.

So to play a 1:30 game I would set an hour long game, a flag would fall, then I would set a 1/2 hour long continuation of the game
for the player who's flag fell, then set 1/2 hour plus the time that was remaining on the opponents side of the clock so the
opponent receives credit for unplayed minutes from the 1st hour.

As far as controls on the back of a clock should I assume: spring winder, hour hand control, something to stop both clocks time?
The controls on the top I understand.

Thanks for your answers they have been very helpful, -matt

U¿ytkownik "matt -`;'-" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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"isi" wrote in message
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[...]
So if I understand this correctly, if I played an hour and a half long
game I would have to reset each side's clock because a flag
would fall after 1 hour. Assumedly 1 hour being the maximum time that
can be set before a flag falls.

The first flag fall would be after 30 minutes, but it is to be ignored.
For instance, if both clocks started at 4:30 (the normal setting for
this time control), the clocks simply pass through 5:00 (when the
falling of flags is to be ignored c.q. not to be controlled) and
continue their way towards 6:00, where the time control occurs.

So to play a 1:30 game I would set an hour long game, a flag would
fall, then I would set a 1/2 hour long continuation of the game
for the player who's flag fell, then set 1/2 hour plus the time that
was remaining on the opponents side of the clock so the
opponent receives credit for unplayed minutes from the 1st hour.

No. See above.

As far as controls on the back of a clock should I assume: spring
winder, hour hand control, something to stop both clocks time?
The controls on the top I understand.

Both clocks are stopped by the buttons at the top: you push them halfway
down, until you see that neither of the clocks are running.

Thanks for your answers they have been very helpful, -matt

Happy to help ;-)

isi

"Kenneth Sloan" wrote in message ...
"isi" writes:


If you don't want to turn the time backward but only forward, you
could start a long session of 45 minute games by setting the clocks
at 12.15, then 1.15, 2.15 etc., until 10.15; the small hand would never
be in the time trouble zone (if that would be a problem somehow).

Strictly speaking, this is not quite right. It's considered correct for
the first time control (in this case, the only time control) to be at
6:00.

Most clock manufacturers caution against turning the clock BACK - but
I've never seen any real damage done, especially if you STOP the clock
before resetting it. (well, on some older clocks it was
possible to run afoul of the flag mechanism).

Okay, now I think I understand. When 6:00 is reached then the flag falls (big hand on 12, little on 6). So if you did not want to
wind backwards you would have to wind the minute hand 11 revolutions forward to 5:00 to reset the clock and play an hour long game.
I don't suppose the hour hand is able to be moved independantly is it? I really don't understand why the manufacturer would not
implement a feature for resetting the clock easily. I don't mind a little work to reset the time, but 11 revolutions to reset it
for every game just doesn't seem all that fun. Thanks for you reply, -matt