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Old July 13th 04, 06:27 AM
Abu Ali
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"Tim Hanke" wrote in message
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"Abu Ali" wrote in message

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Shame on the Americans on let Zionists drive their foreign policy for
decades.


Hmm, let's examine this situation.

On the one hand, we see a small but brave country that shares most of
our cultural ideals.


I have to agree with this. Deeply rooted racism, genocide, mass expulsion
thru killing and terrorising, robbing of land and resources etc.
But still its a shame when a small country drives the foreign policy of big
country.


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Old July 13th 04, 06:31 AM
Abu Ali
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"Every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do
that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American
pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans
know it."

Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres.


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Old July 13th 04, 10:37 AM
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"Jürgen R." wrote in message ...

Anybody who asks this question shows he hasn't understood what a
rating system is.

You can demonstrate easily enough how the average rating has changed
with time; however, you cannot show how the player strength for a
given rating has changed: In order to do this you would need to
measure strength, i.e. you need a rating system...

Rating systems measure *relative* strength, they cannot measure
*absolute* strength.


That`s right, on the basis of a rating list we can only predict what is the
probability of a result of a game between two rated players. However it`s a
common phenomenon that we use ratings as a relative measure of players`
strength.

And what should be Fischer`s position after his another come-back to chess
after another 20 years ? Or can we claim that Kasparov is still number one
by playing strength judging by his rating ? He has played in tournaments
rarely recently, once a year or so (many games against computer software),
and he doesn`t win tournaments as he used to in the past. However he is
still number one in the rating list.

And last but not the least : what about Myanmar players` case ? They had
played only in their country for several years and their ratings were
skyrocketing, however in the international competition it turned out that
their ratings were artificial and much to high.

Regards,
Jerzy


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Old July 13th 04, 05:04 PM
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Kasparov used to be at 2890+ and is these days at 2810+
Anand used to be at 2840+ and is these days at 2780+
Kramnik used to be at 2840+ and is these days at 2770+


Kind of like when the best record in the NBA is 57-25 or something like
that.



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Old July 13th 04, 10:58 PM
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"Abu Ali" wrote in message
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"Tim Hanke" wrote in message
om...
"Abu Ali" wrote in message

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Shame on the Americans on let Zionists drive their foreign policy for
decades.


Hmm, let's examine this situation.

On the one hand, we see a small but brave country that shares most of
our cultural ideals.


I have to agree with this. Deeply rooted racism, genocide, mass expulsion
thru killing and terrorising, robbing of land and resources etc.
But still its a shame when a small country drives the foreign policy of

big
country.



touche


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Old July 16th 04, 10:55 PM
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America supports Israel primarily for strategic reasons. Its cheaper
using Israel as a meat shield for the terrorists and arab
expansionists than to put our own massive military base in place.


"Abu Ali" wrote in message ...
"Tim Hanke" wrote in message
om...
"Abu Ali" wrote in message

...

Shame on the Americans on let Zionists drive their foreign policy for
decades.


Hmm, let's examine this situation.

On the one hand, we see a small but brave country that shares most of
our cultural ideals.


I have to agree with this. Deeply rooted racism, genocide, mass expulsion
thru killing and terrorising, robbing of land and resources etc.
But still its a shame when a small country drives the foreign policy of big
country.

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Old July 19th 04, 04:59 PM
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John Eric Hanson wrote:
You could do it (measure the change in player strength for a given
rating over time) with a player of constant strength - say a computer
program - and record it's performance against players of various ratings
over time. A meta-rating system, if you will.


That wouldn't work because, with time, players would learn more about this
fixed opponent and play better against it.


Dave.

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Old July 19th 04, 05:14 PM
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PeteCasso wrote:
Kasparov used to be at 2890+ and is these days at 2810+
Anand used to be at 2840+ and is these days at 2780+
Kramnik used to be at 2840+ and is these days at 2770+


The highest FIDE ratings achieved by Kasparov, Anand and Kramnik,
respectively, are 2851 (in 2000), 2794 (in 2001) and 2809 (in 2002).
You may be confusing the PCA and FIDE ratings, which are seperate so
not directly comparable.


Dave.

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