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Old July 11th 04, 08:46 AM
byrne
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10 , 30 , 50 etc points per 5 or 10 years ?!
GM Korchnoi says 30 points per 10 years
( 2004 - 2600elo= 1994 - 2570elo)

Regards ,
byrne


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Old July 11th 04, 10:09 AM
Jürgen R.
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:46:55 +0200, "byrne" wrote:

10 , 30 , 50 etc points per 5 or 10 years ?!
GM Korchnoi says 30 points per 10 years
( 2004 - 2600elo= 1994 - 2570elo)

Regards ,
byrne


Anybody who asks this question shows he hasn't understood what a
rating system is.

You can demonstrate easily enough how the average rating has changed
with time; however, you cannot show how the player strength for a
given rating has changed: In order to do this you would need to
measure strength, i.e. you need a rating system...

Rating systems measure *relative* strength, they cannot measure
*absolute* strength.

Jürgen



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Old July 11th 04, 12:41 PM
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I find it's the opposite because theory improves over time.

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"byrne" wrote in message
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10 , 30 , 50 etc points per 5 or 10 years ?!
GM Korchnoi says 30 points per 10 years
( 2004 - 2600elo= 1994 - 2570elo)

Regards ,
byrne




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Old July 11th 04, 01:25 PM
Gilbert Palmer
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Oh really?



"Jürgen R." wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:46:55 +0200, "byrne" wrote:

10 , 30 , 50 etc points per 5 or 10 years ?!
GM Korchnoi says 30 points per 10 years
( 2004 - 2600elo= 1994 - 2570elo)

Regards ,
byrne


Anybody who asks this question shows he hasn't understood what a
rating system is.

You can demonstrate easily enough how the average rating has changed
with time; however, you cannot show how the player strength for a
given rating has changed: In order to do this you would need to
measure strength, i.e. you need a rating system...

Rating systems measure *relative* strength, they cannot measure
*absolute* strength.

Jürgen





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Old July 11th 04, 04:53 PM
Ed Seedhouse
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:25:30 GMT, "Gilbert Palmer"
wrote:

Anybody who asks this question shows he hasn't understood what a
rating system is.


Rating systems measure *relative* strength, they cannot measure
*absolute* strength.


Oh really?


Really, as pointed out by Elo himself.


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Old July 12th 04, 04:10 AM
John Eric Hanson
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"Jürgen R." wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:46:55 +0200, "byrne" wrote:

10 , 30 , 50 etc points per 5 or 10 years ?!
GM Korchnoi says 30 points per 10 years
( 2004 - 2600elo= 1994 - 2570elo)

Regards ,
byrne


Anybody who asks this question shows he hasn't understood what a
rating system is.

You can demonstrate easily enough how the average rating has changed
with time; however, you cannot show how the player strength for a
given rating has changed: In order to do this you would need to
measure strength, i.e. you need a rating system...

Rating systems measure *relative* strength, they cannot measure
*absolute* strength.

Jürgen


You could do it (measure the change in player strength for a given rating
over time) with a player of constant strength - say a computer program - and
record it's performance against players of various ratings over time. A
meta-rating system, if you will.

-JEH


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Old July 12th 04, 08:18 AM
Abu Ali
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"I ain't gonna play Sun City" and the world's best chessplayers should not
play Libya, which banned the Israeli players from competing. Shame on the
Americans who went!


Shame on the Americans on let Zionists drive their foreign policy for
decades.


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Old July 12th 04, 04:48 PM
Tim Hanke
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"Abu Ali" wrote in message ...

Shame on the Americans on let Zionists drive their foreign policy for
decades.


Hmm, let's examine this situation.

On the one hand, we see a small but brave country that shares most of
our cultural ideals.

On the other hand, we see a large number of ignorant and backward
countries, whose cultural ideals are mostly detestable to us, that are
trying to destroy the small country.

Which side do you expect us to take?

Tim Hanke
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Old July 13th 04, 04:32 AM
PeteCasso
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Well, at the very top, there had been a deflation:

Kasparov used to be at 2890+ and is these days at 2810+
Anand used to be at 2840+ and is these days at 2780+
Kramnik used to be at 2840+ and is these days at 2770+


"byrne" wrote in message
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10 , 30 , 50 etc points per 5 or 10 years ?!
GM Korchnoi says 30 points per 10 years
( 2004 - 2600elo= 1994 - 2570elo)

Regards ,
byrne




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Old July 13th 04, 05:11 AM
Jud McCranie
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:32:22 -0400, "PeteCasso"
wrote:

Well, at the very top, there had been a deflation:

Kasparov used to be at 2890+ and is these days at 2810+


Kasparov is at an age where he should be declining.

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