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US Hypocrites: "Polgars had Fischer at their house. So?"



 
 
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Old August 2nd 04, 01:57 AM
Nick
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Default US Hypocrites: "Polgars had Fischer at their house. So?"

(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote:
(Nick) wrote in message
. com...(to Graeme):
ost (Graeme) wrote:
(snipped)
Fischer tried to have him killed, by first having his home address
read over the radio, and following up with this:
"Some Filipino who loves me should say hello to that motherf---er.
Bob Ellsworth is worthy of death for this s--t he pulled on me, in
cahoots with Bekins. This was all orchestrated by the Jewish world
governments."


While I definitely do *not* condone that statement by Bobby Fischer,


How enlighten our phoney Nicko is (and, oh, how important
it is to us to know that he *definitely* and that he *not*).


That's more risible trolling coming from Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, who, on
30 July 2004 in *his created* RGCM thread, "Reminiscing Fischer's past
(Part I)", 'treated' (if that's the word) the readers of RGCM to his long
rambling confessional about how, apparently, he has agonized over his decision
about whether or not he should attempt to support Bobby Fischer now and finally
decided that he, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, is 'very very sorry' that he cannot
support Bobby Fischer in his troubles now.

Why would Bobby Fischer--or anyone else--care at all that Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski has made this momentous decision? What difference in the world
could Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's 'support' possibly make for Bobby Fischer?

None whatsoever.

I have to say that still does *not* seem unquestionably clear that it was
intended as a *serious attempt* 'to kill somebody' (to quote Graeme) [...]
(My context was completely snipped by Wlodzimierz Holsztynski.)


said the rgcm village idiot, the phoeny, racially prejudiced
AntiZionist "Nick Boutbaki".
Wlod


What's Wlodzimierz Holsztynski raving about again?

Should I add it to my file of his many public insults and threats against me,
(which I am ready to forward to the proper authorities should it ever become
necessary)? Here's only one example of many from him:

"So I am virtually spitting in his (my) face. It is as good as for real,
and even better. I don't need any violence. Spitting virtually in his (my)
cowardish face is good enough."
--Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (30 January 2004, writing about me)

1) "It (spitting in my 'cowardish face') is as good as for real ..."
seems to be one of Mr Holsztynski's favourite fantasies about me.
2) "I don't need any violence" seems to be Mr Holsztynski's pro forma
legal disclaimer.

My advice to Mr Wlodzimierz Holsztynski is for him to adhere strictly to
his presumed schedule of medications. Or perhaps Mr Holsztynski should
consider suing his psychiatrist for not giving him a sufficient dosage.

"The killing of those of 'us' counts as a crime; the rest are unpeople."
--John Pilger (The New Rulers of the World, p. 137)

--Nick (one of the 'unpeople')
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Old August 2nd 04, 11:30 AM
NoMoreChess
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Default US Hypocrites: "Polgars had Fischer at their house. So?"

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I agree that Fischer did make a serious attempt to have Ellsworth killed by
making these remarks and reading the man's home address over the radio,
suggesting that someone "say hello" to him, that he was "worthy of death," etc.

However, as far as I know, no one has yet killed Bob Ellsworth; and if
Fischer were to be charged by the U.S. government for this (apparently
unsuccessful) attempt to persuade some undetermined "friend" to make an
attempt, he could, IMO, undoubtedly get off on an insanity plea. The only
trouble is that Fischer would refuse to make such a plea, and it would have to
be made for him by the court, ruling him unfit to represent himself against
such a charge. In all likelihood, Fischer's "defense" would be that Ellsworth
*was* worthy of death and that the true criminals here were Ellsworth and the
Bekins Storage Company.



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Old August 3rd 04, 04:54 AM
Nick
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Default US Hypocrites: "Polgars had Fischer at their house. So?"

(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote:
(Nick) wrote in message
. com...
(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote:
(Nick) wrote in message
. com...(to Graeme):
ost (Graeme) wrote:
(snipped)
Fischer tried to have him killed, by first having his home address
read over the radio, and following up with this:
"Some Filipino who loves me should say hello to that motherf---er.
Bob Ellsworth is worthy of death for this s--t he pulled on me, in
cahoots with Bekins. This was all orchestrated by the Jewish world
governments."


Now our "Nick" adds his two cents:

I have to say that still does *not* seem unquestionably clear that
it was intended as a *serious attempt* 'to kill somebody' (to quote
Graeme) [...]


Please read my explanation, which was completely snipped by
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, in my post earlier in this thread.

To which I have made a reasonable remark:
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski wrote:
said the rgcm village idiot, the phoeny, racially prejudiced
AntiZionist "Nick Boutbaki".
Wlod


Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's characteristically abusive language would be
considered quite inappropriate and not to be tolerated in any circle of
my friends, including my Israeli Jewish friends who have strongly criticised,
as I do, the state of Israel's continuing oppression of the Palestinians.

As far as I can tell from his posts here, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski evidently
worships the state of Israel and regards all of its policies as above criticism,
at least from all criticism by anyone who's not perceived as Jewish by him.

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski wrote (about the Palestinians):
"Just give them a chance and they will murder."
--Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (27 July 2004, 'Patriotism has no rational basis?')

"Let all of the self-righteous ones who speak of ruthless Palestinian murderers
take a hard look into the mirror and ask themselves what they would have done
had they been the ones living under (Israeli) occupation. I can say for
myself that I, Yitzhak Frankenthal, would undoubtedly have become a freedom
fighter and killed as many on the other side as I possibly could. It is this
depraved hypocrisy that pushes the Palestinians to fight us relentlessly--our
(Israel's) double standard that allows us to boast the highest military ethics
while the same military slays innocent children."
--Yitzhak Frankenthal (27 July 2002, from his speech in Jerusalem)

I had the privilege of having known the late Israel Shahak, a professor at
the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and the Chairman of the Israeli League
of Human and Civil Rights. Israel Shahak was born in Poland, grew up in a
Zionist family, took part in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and survived the
Belsen concentration camp. As far as I know of him, he would have regarded
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski with disdain.

Perhaps Wlodzimierz Holsztynski enjoys the company of persons who appreciate
the kind of abusive language that he prefers to use again and again here.

What's Wlodzimierz Holsztynski raving about again?


Of course Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has completely snipped the context
following my rhetorical question (above). Please read my earlier post.

Not raving but showing common sense.
It takes an raving idiot like "Nick Bourbaki" to make his another
idiotic comment. Now "Nick" has both of his feet in his dirty mouth.


"I have never insulted anybody."
--Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (5 December 2003)

Contrary to what he may prefer to believe about himself and to have the more
naive readers here believe, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has a long record of making
insults against many persons (not only me) in the chess newsgroups. Indeed,
one reader here (Andreas Walkenhorst) has won a bet by having predicted when
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski would write his next insult (against Anatoly Karpov)
in the chess newsgroups.

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has denounced me for being 'racially prejudiced'.
If Wlodzimierz Holsztynski and I had both been living in South Africa under
apartheid, then Wlodzimierz Holsztynski would have been a privileged member
of the 'master race' and I one of the 'subhumans' under the laws of apartheid.
The pro-apartheid government of South Africa had a close alliance, particularly
militarily, with Israel, a state that Wlodzimierz Holsztynski seems to regard
as above criticism.

Jerome Bibuld (who undoubtedly sincerely opposed apartheid) has advised me:
"Once again, I offer the advice that you ignore sick bacilli, such as
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski. ... As a friend...I once again urge you to ignore
them. Correcting their baldfaced lies and the parroting of the lies of
their masters is one thing. Arguing with them serves no purpose..."
--Jerome Bibuld (12 June 2004, writing to me)

I do *not* propose to 'argue' with Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, though I reserve
the right to correct the distortions and falsehoods that he may write again.

"If, in a party, a stranger should make a remark of which you do not approve,
you must express your sentiments to a friend, loud enough for the offending
party to hear, but taking great care not to look towards him; for he would
imagine you are addressing him, whereas you are doing nothing of the kind."
--from 'Hints on Etiquette for the University of Oxford' (1838)

To be realistic, I do *not* expect Wlodzimierz Holsztynski to stop his
many insults against me.

"The killing of those of 'us' counts as a crime; the rest are unpeople."
--John Pilger (The New Rulers of the World, p. 137)

'You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are
what the white world calls a ******.'
--James Baldwin

--Nick (one of the 'unpeople')
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Old August 3rd 04, 08:20 AM
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
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Default US Hypocrites: "Polgars had Fischer at their house. So?"

(Nick) wrote in message . com...

[...] including my Israeli Jewish friends
who have strongly criticised,
as I do, the state of Israel's
continuing oppression of the Palestinians.


When black politician Jackson or comedian
Bill Cosby critisize Blacks, that's one thing,
while similar statements by white AntiBlackPanthers
who go hand in hand with KKK, would be an altogether
a different story. By the same token, when a member
of the Jewish socialist party Bund and a pre-WarII
zionist have a discussion that's one thing, but
when a harmonizing with Quaddafi, AntiZionist phoney "Nick
Bourbaki" runs his racially prejudiced mouth that's
a very-very different story.

"Nick Bourbaki" in addition to his obsessive trolling
(tens of thousands o bytes upon bytes, nothing but bytes)
has compiled quite a record of making racist comments, of
falsely labeling the participants of the chess Internet
groups, of twisting quotes, etc etc -- in short, phoney
"Nick" is *disgusting*.


As far as I can tell from his posts here,
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski evidently
worships the state of Israel


A lie. "Nick Bourbaki" is a liar.

and regards all of its policies as above criticism,
at least from all criticism by anyone who's not
perceived as Jewish by him.


Another lie. "Nick Bourbaki" is a liar.

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski wrote (about the Palestinians):
"Just give them a chance and they will murder."
--Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (27 July 2004, 'Patriotism
has no rational basis?')


That's a vicious lie. "Nick Bourbaki" is a LIAR.

I had the privilege of having known the late Israel Shahak,


"Nick Bourbaki" "knows" many people who do not care
to know him. Professor Israel Shahak has died without
ever knowing that "Nick Bourbaki" knew him.

[...] As far as I know of him, he would have regarded
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski with disdain.


Typical of dusgusting demagogy by "Nick Bourbaki".


Perhaps Wlodzimierz Holsztynski enjoys the company of persons [...]


who are not like dishonest "Nick Bourbaki", who has no honor,
no class, who can only parrot quotations or twist them.

[...] Israel, a state that Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
seems to regard as above criticism.


Once again, "Nick Bourbaki" is a LIAR.



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Wlod
 




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