On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:

RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan

Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.


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On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:

RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan

Zugzwanged wrote:

Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

For beer? it could very well be true.


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On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:


RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 05:42:48 GMT, "Zugzwanged"
wrote:

Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

Of course, the story is true. Why would you doubt it?

Sam Sloan


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On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:

RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan

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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 05:42:48 GMT, "Zugzwanged"
wrote:

Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

Of course, the story is true. Why would you doubt it?

Sam Sloan

I don't doubt your description of the situation as it occured. But the story
is so amazingly ironic that I wonder if that "beer-boy" could really be
Cardoso.

Jason Repa





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On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:

RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:56:53 GMT, "Zugzwanged"
wrote:


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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 05:42:48 GMT, "Zugzwanged"
wrote:

Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

Of course, the story is true. Why would you doubt it?

Sam Sloan

I don't doubt your description of the situation as it occured. But the story
is so amazingly ironic that I wonder if that "beer-boy" could really be
Cardoso.

Jason Repa

Yes. He was in fact the famous International Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

He was in Dubai even though he is no longer strong enough to make the
Philippines Olympiad Team.

Sam Sloan




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On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:

RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan

"Zugzwanged" wrote:
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"Zugzwanged" wrote (to Sam Sloan):
Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

Sam Sloan's reputation as a writer of fiction seems to have preceded him. :-)

Of course, the story is true. Why would you doubt it?
Sam Sloan

Perhaps on account of Sam Sloan's reputation as a writer of fiction. :-)

I don't doubt your description of the situation as it occured.
But the story is so amazingly ironic that I wonder if that "beer-boy"
could really be Cardoso.

IM Cardoso was born in 1937.

Was the Fischer-Cardoso match sponsored by an American soft drink corporation?

--Nick

On 13 Aug 2004 12:47:28 -0700, (Nick) wrote:

"Zugzwanged" wrote:
"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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"Zugzwanged" wrote (to Sam Sloan):
Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

Sam Sloan's reputation as a writer of fiction seems to have preceded him. :-)

Of course, the story is true. Why would you doubt it?
Sam Sloan

Perhaps on account of Sam Sloan's reputation as a writer of fiction. :-)

I don't doubt your description of the situation as it occured.
But the story is so amazingly ironic that I wonder if that "beer-boy"
could really be Cardoso.

IM Cardoso was born in 1937.

Was the Fischer-Cardoso match sponsored by an American soft drink corporation?

Pepsi-Cola sponsored the match.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 05:42:48 GMT, "Zugzwanged"
wrote:

Great story Sam. I wonder if it could actually be true.

Of course, the story is true. Why would you doubt it?

Sam Sloan


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On 4 Aug 2004 06:58:49 -0700, (Taylor
Kingston) wrote:

RJF was given the IM title in 1958, duly backdated to 1957,
presumably based on the strength of his match win over Cardoso and the
US title victory that straddled 1957-58. I find that Cardoso scored 13
out of 17 at the Moscow 1956 Olympiad, which gave him second place on
board 4, just behind Bronstein.

Here is a minor aside.

I was playing in a poker game in the Campomanes Suite during the 1986
World Chess Olympiad in Dubai.

Campomanes and a few of the other poker players wanted a beer.

A collection was taken up and given to a "boy" who was sent out to get
the beer.

After the boy had left, with Campomanes and the other Filipinos
talking to each other in Filipono, I overheard them say the name
"Cardoso".

Rudolfo Cardoso was a famous Filipino player in the 1950s but I had
rarely heard his name since that time. I had always wondered about
this so I asked the question, "What ever happened to Cardoso?"

"He went out to get the beer", was the reply.

I was astonished to learn that they boy they had sent out to get the
beer was the famous International Chess Master Rudolfo Cardoso.

Sam Sloan