Wired News http://www.wired.com/ has a story today
about the new Kasparov movie. They panned it but I
would still like to see it.

Duncan

Duncan Oxley no@thanks wrote:
Wired News http://www.wired.com/ has a story today about the new
Kasparov movie. They panned it but I would still like to see it.

Well, new as in `released last September'. It's not a great movie -- as
Wired says, it really overdoes the conspiracy theory stuff -- but it's
interesting to watch and generally well made.


Dave.

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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ personal hygiene product but it'll be
there for ever!

David Richerby wrote:
Duncan Oxley no@thanks wrote:
Wired News http://www.wired.com/ has a story today about the new
Kasparov movie. They panned it but I would still like to see it.

Well, new as in `released last September'.

Ah -- just noticed that it was only released in the US a week ago. :-)


Dave.

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weighs a ton but it could explode at
any minute!

Duncan Oxley wrote:
Wired News http://www.wired.com/ has a story today
about the new Kasparov movie. They panned it but I
would still like to see it.

Based on this review, I would have serious reservations about the film.
Kasparov's allegation of cheating by the computer designers was
unsportsmanlike and smacked strongly of cheap excuse-making. If, as the
review indicates, his baseless charge has been made the center of the
film, the director has not researched his subject well, and is aiming
for sensationalism and not factuality.

There are some factual errors in the review. For example, it is
well-known that the automaton "The Turk" was operated by human
players; why does the reviewer make it seem like the question is still
open? Or is he merely repeating errors made in the film?

For anyone seriously interested in a more factual treatment of the 1997
match, I would recommend "Behind Deep Blue" (Princeton University
Press, 2002) a serious behind-the scenes account by Feng-Hsiung Hsu,
one of the computer's designers. It addresses Kasparov's charges
head-on.

Taylor Kingston

I don't know nuttin' about what Garry sez is a fact, but I do know one
thing. Carol Jarecki seemed to be having a religious experience everytime
the computer made a good move.

Who asked her to be arbiter?

What qualified her to be an arbiter in the first place?

BTW, the logs from IBM are published on their website of the event, which is
still in residence here on the INET.


--
Tom Klem

La Caissa Nostra, that disgusting old gang of bigots and hate mongers.
Goichberg, ChessKlink (Donnie the Weasel), Spam Sloan, Eric the maggot,
"Killer" Hanken, Ferguson, Jarecki, bozo (even bozo?)



"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
ps.com...
Duncan Oxley wrote:
Wired News http://www.wired.com/ has a story today
about the new Kasparov movie. They panned it but I
would still like to see it.

Based on this review, I would have serious reservations about the film.
Kasparov's allegation of cheating by the computer designers was
unsportsmanlike and smacked strongly of cheap excuse-making. If, as the
review indicates, his baseless charge has been made the center of the
film, the director has not researched his subject well, and is aiming
for sensationalism and not factuality.

There are some factual errors in the review. For example, it is
well-known that the automaton "The Turk" was operated by human
players; why does the reviewer make it seem like the question is still
open? Or is he merely repeating errors made in the film?

For anyone seriously interested in a more factual treatment of the 1997
match, I would recommend "Behind Deep Blue" (Princeton University
Press, 2002) a serious behind-the scenes account by Feng-Hsiung Hsu,
one of the computer's designers. It addresses Kasparov's charges
head-on.

Taylor Kingston

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:26:56 -0800, "Tom Klem"
wrote:

I don't know nuttin' about what Garry sez is a fact, but I do know one
thing. Carol Jarecki seemed to be having a religious experience everytime
the computer made a good move.

Who asked her to be arbiter?

What qualified her to be an arbiter in the first place?

BTW, the logs from IBM are published on their website of the event, which is
still in residence here on the INET.
--
Tom Klem

Just so that the newcomers here know, Carol Jarecki has been since
1995 at the top of the list of people that Tom Klem attacks.

Sam Sloan

Just so you know.

Carol Jarecki attacked a nine year old. She smashed and berated his ego for
two hours, under the false pretext of doing a story for the Children's Chess
magazine of the federation. She is exactly the same kind of scum as you Sam.
Bigoted and hateful.

A waste of human skin.

For a cartoon depicting this disgusting act:

http://www.lvcm.com/nvchess/ZugZwang...r96/page3.html

You'll recognize her "foul stench" the minute you come on board.


--
Tom Klem

La Caissa Nostra, that disgusting old gang of bigots and hate mongers.
Goichberg, ChessKlink (Donnie the Weasel), Spam Sloan, Eric the maggot,
"Killer" Hanken, Ferguson, Jarecki, bozo (even bozo?)



"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:26:56 -0800, "Tom Klem"
wrote:

I don't know nuttin' about what Garry sez is a fact, but I do know one
thing. Carol Jarecki seemed to be having a religious experience everytime
the computer made a good move.

Who asked her to be arbiter?

What qualified her to be an arbiter in the first place?

BTW, the logs from IBM are published on their website of the event, which
is
still in residence here on the INET.
--
Tom Klem

Just so that the newcomers here know, Carol Jarecki has been since
1995 at the top of the list of people that Tom Klem attacks.

Sam Sloan

"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
Just so that the newcomers here know, Carol Jarecki has been since
1995 at the top of the list of people that Tom Klem attacks.

I must say that Tom Klem is a revengeful one :-)

Regards,

Jerzy

Not revenge.

I've made it a personal goal to never let people forget what these scumbags
did.

The national chess organization of the United States, had become a safe
haven for people who couldn't win over the board if their lives depended
upon it. So they took it upon themselves to destroy an entire successful
Chess program here in Nevada, just because they had the power to do so.

They lied, they cheated, they bribed a judge, and a whole host of other
actions which would normally be considered criminal activity if this were
anything but Chess.

The jury is still out on whether or not they will continue to be a breeding
ground for such unambigous bigotry and hatred. Simply because this person or
that person has a successful program that has the label (as far as USCF was
concerned) of "not invented here", they took it upon themselves to be
destroyers.

Chess in the United States is suffering under the remnants of this horror;
and, to tell you the truth, I am sorry I ever heard of the game.

Hatred and bigotry are serious charges, which I have more than proved to be
true regarding these people over the years.


--
Tom Klem

La Caissa Nostra, that disgusting old gang of bigots and hate mongers.
Goichberg, ChessKlink (Donnie the Weasel), Spam Sloan, Eric the maggot,
"Killer" Hanken, Ferguson, Jarecki, bozo (even bozo?)



"Jerzy" wrote in message
...
"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
Just so that the newcomers here know, Carol Jarecki has been since
1995 at the top of the list of people that Tom Klem attacks.

I must say that Tom Klem is a revengeful one :-)

Regards,

Jerzy

"Tom Klem" wrote in message
news:U5_vd.35547$ve.20169@fed1read06...
Not revenge.

I've made it a personal goal to never let people forget what these
scumbags
did.

[...]

Chess in the United States is suffering under the remnants of this horror;
and, to tell you the truth, I am sorry I ever heard of the game.

Hatred and bigotry are serious charges, which I have more than proved to
be
true regarding these people over the years.

Thus it is revenge. You`re saying no more chess and you are still here :-)

BTW Why do you toppost ? I don`t like reading from down to top. Do you ?

Regards,

Jerzy