RANDY BAUER GRASPS AT STRAW

We still have not received the detailed cost estimates of the move to
Cross-to-Bear.

We still have not been told whether Cross-to-Bear architect
Phil Elmore is a friend of Harry Sabine, whether Mr. Sabine knew of the
huge overpayment in the contract for famished Phil, and whether he kept
his Tennessee trap resolutely zipped at the expense of the USCF. Mr.
Bauer and his fellow honest men have still not explained why this dirt
farmer had to reveal the contents of a dirty contract that has since
been renegotiated or is in the process of being renegotiated (different
Board members tell different stories on this point)? Why did they hide
it from the membership, or were they too busy to mention the matter
over several months? Or were they simply "volunteers" who used their
limited energies to pick their noses?

We have some stuff from Randy Bauer and Stan Booz. As I
suspected, we have not heard from George John, who likely finds nothing
particularly uncivil from political ally Jim Eade in the "Bestiary
Eadiensis." If true, we shall have a fair idea what to expect in the
future from the ticket trying to take over the USCF.

Taking the last and least first, Stan Booz writes of my avowal
that I opposed Don Schultz's administration, just as I attacked the
incumbencies of Tim Redman and others, "Making it all the more curious
that the Larry now heels to Don's command. Every time the carousel
revolves we have the Larry reaching for his new master, to get the gold
ring. Can there be any doubt that the Larry sold out to the almight
ringgit?"

Aside from the weakminded mixed metaphors, what can one say
about the above? What does the above mean? First, Mr. Booz appears to
concede that Jim Eade did indeed lie or mislead when suggesting in a
posting that I failed to support the Dorsch critique of Don Schultz's
administration re finances. The fact is that I was in Tom's corner vs.
Goichberg and others even when Jim Eade felt constrained to vote
against Tom in a few instances.

Secondly ... well, there is no secondly. At that point, Mr.
Booz makes no sense. I am the guy who has roasted Bill Goichberg more
often than any one else on this forum for taking "pay," when the Board
resolution said "no pay." Randy Bauer, for example, has not demanded
that Mr. Goichberg, who is widely perceived as being allied with Don
Schultz, return the $25,000. Yet I am somehow riding a carousel and
reaching for new masters and selling out for ringgits when Mr. Booz has
yet to show I have had any masters at all, and indeed he appears to
concede that I have not had any. And what has Mr. Schultz to do with
ringgits?

Senseless stuff from our resident CPA Stan Booz. He simply can't
conceive of someone being independent. In his world, you're either for
him or agin' him.

Randy Bauer scores a point. He did not refuse service of a
court letter, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with him refusing a
certified letter from Sam personally containing a court document. My
views have not changed, and Mr. Bauer dishonestly tries to suggest that
they have. My mistake was to write that Mr. Bauer had refused a court
letter. Period.

I apologize for the error, not lie.

However, there is no comparison between my misapprehension of a
matter of discrete fact and the sheer mendacity that Randy Bauer has
exhibited in both matters of method and fact on this forum.

The dishonest methods are clear enough: every ploy imaginable
was used to avoid disclosing detailed cost estimates of the move to
Cross-to-Bear. Finally, when the ploys were exhausted, we were told he
would have to talk with Tim Hanke and Beatriz Marinello, though Mr.
Hanke nearly two months earlier had written that he would have to talk
with members of the Board. In short, the merry old runaround.

And, to be sure, we still have not received the detailed cost
estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear.

What we did finally receive was Randy Bauer's personal
estimates of the cost, along with a waiver that even if they were
doubled, it would still be one heckuva geee-lorious deal. Several
readers misunderstood the estimates as being a summary of those the
Board has suppressed. After a lot of cross-questioning, we learned
that the numbers are Mr. Bauer's personal figures.

What did the numbers include? We are still unclear.Aapparently
not the architect's fee, apparently not legal fees, apparently not
payments to the NY unemployment fund, apparently not recent increases
in the cost estimates for putting up the new building in Cross-to-Bear
(estimates started at $300,000 before the move and have escalated up to
$650,000) and apparently not payments to USCF prez Beatriz Marinello
who is receiving pay in the guise of "expenses."

Mr. Bauer tried to defend not including legal fees in his cost
estimates by arguing the week before last that those fees would have
been higher had the Federation stayed in New Windsor. Yet last
October, he wrote there was no danger of legal action and that the
Board was so confident that all was well the topic had not discussed
for "weeks" a major legal letter from a Tennessee attack dog. Another
Board member said -- and no other Board member contested the claim --
that the Tennessee folk had promised there would be no lawsuit if the
Federation stayed in New York.

Mr. Bauer could not keep his story straight about a major
issue -- not about a matter of discrete fact in my inadvertently false
statement.

So, Mr. Bauer calculates he now has his excuse for no longer
responding to my postings. The way that this man grasps at a straw says
a lot about his character, I daresay.

His silence is no great loss because despite thousands of
words he seldom answers real questions.

wrote:

Larry,

[SNIP]

We have some stuff from Randy Bauer and Stan Booz. As I
suspected, we have not heard from George John,

I'm not aware that I have been unresponsive. If this regards the
Crossville move, I do not have any information beyond what is publicly
available. I have repeatedly called for the posting of a Crossville
move "White Paper" including non-confidential budget numbers (employee
salaries would be confidential).

who likely finds nothing
particularly uncivil from political ally Jim Eade in the "Bestiary
Eadiensis."

I have repeatedly asked for civil conduct from all persons in USCF
leadership roles, even in the face of uncivil conduct.

If true, we shall have a fair idea what to expect in the
future from the ticket trying to take over the USCF.

I think this is not true. My interest in having USCF governance which
is transparent and leadership which is civil at all times is very
sincere.

[SNIP]

Best regards,

George John

I have repeatedly called for the posting of a Crossville move "White
Paper" including non-confidential budget numbers (employee salaries
would be confidential). -- George John

Dear George,

Your request and mine and others for a White Paper has been
consistently ignored by the board majority.

Beatriz Marinello's "expenses" should be made public for the simple
reason that we have been consistently told that she is not an employee
but an independent contractor overseeing the move to Crossville (but
why can't others who already are on the payroll perform this function)?

Best regards,

Larry Parr

wrote:

Larry,

[SNIP]

Your request and mine and others for a White Paper has been
consistently ignored by the board majority.

Has the board minority called for the posting of this information? Has
the board minority submitted a motion, to be debated upon in open
session, that calls for the posting of this information?

I'm not trying to pass the buck here, but IMO a board minority has a
responsibility to make a reasonable attempt to persuade a board
majority to do the right thing.

Please trust me when I say the following, should I be elected and find
myself in the minority role, I WILL practice what I preach.

[SNIP]

Best regards,

George John

wrote in message
oups.com...
I have repeatedly called for the posting of a Crossville move "White
Paper" including non-confidential budget numbers (employee salaries
would be confidential). -- George John

Dear George,

Your request and mine and others for a White Paper has been
consistently ignored by the board majority.

Beatriz Marinello's "expenses" should be made public for the simple
reason that we have been consistently told that she is not an employee
but an independent contractor overseeing the move to Crossville (but
why can't others who already are on the payroll perform this function)?

Best regards,

And what about the other matter

Phil

Larry Parr

WHAT MINORITY?

I'm not trying to pass the buck here, but IMO a board minority has a
responsibility to make a reasonable attempt to persuade a board
majority to do the right thing. Please trust me when I say the
following, should I be elected and find myself in the minority role, I
WILL practice what I preach. George John

Dear George,

Why not practice what you preach right now? The White Paper you call
for on Crossville is being blocked precisely by the incumbents on your
ticket who are running for re-election.

With all due respect, the resignation of Frank Brady leaves only one
minority member on the board and Don Schultz is powerless to persuade
the majority to release any figures -- as you well know.

Best regards,
Larry Parr

wrote in message
oups.com...

Beatriz Marinello's "expenses" should be made public for the simple
reason that we have been consistently told that she is not an employee
but an independent contractor overseeing the move to Crossville (but
why can't others who already are on the payroll perform this function)?

Who? Who has the dedication? Who has the business credentials? Who will put
in long hours for heaping rations of ****. Who will prevail while being
taken daily to pillory and post? The lady deserves a lot more respect than
you could ever imagine.

wrote in message
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With all due respect, the resignation of Frank Brady leaves only one
minority member on the board and Don Schultz is powerless to persuade
the majority to release any figures -- as you well know.

Why doesn't he release them then?

Larry,

I can't practice what I preach because I am not on the Executive Board.
If I were, I would have strongly advocated in favor of what I have
advocated for here. If necessary, I would have introduced a motion
with the goal of getting everyone on record their reason why or why not
the "White Paper" should be posted.

SFAIK, Frank Brady and Don Schultz made no such motion; although, they
could have done so. It is okay to make motions even if one thinks they
will be defeated. It gets information into the official record that
would otherwise not be there, and that can be valuable in the long run
to effect meaningful change.

Best regards,

George John

Stan Booz said that Larry Parr said: With all due respect, the
resignation of Frank Brady leaves only one
minority member on the board and Don Schultz is powerless to persuade

the majority to release any figures -- as you well know.


Stan's answer to Parr: Why doesn't he release them then?

Guess you missed it Stan. I did put right here on rgcp recently the
best estimates I had.

I'm talking about best estimates of the entire move not even actuals
but certainly estimates that show some breakdownn and not merely a
single number.

To refresh your memory Stan, the post where I gave all the numbers I
had was the one where George John requested an explanation on why I
gave a range for square foot cost of the new building.

One problem with the estimate that I posted is that I am not the right
person to be doing it, our financial experts should. Another problem is
that I had ranges and the upside of the range went too high!

Don Schultz